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Brian Entin


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An unmarked SUV pulled into Nancy Guthrie's garage and the door closed before we could see who got out
 
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I think they called homicide to cover their bases. I heard a retired FBI say he had worked some cases like NGs where investigators weren't sure what exactly they were investigating. There's blood, she's mysteriously gone, and there's no ransom note.

He said the problem with those type of cases is that the initial response is find the victim in case they are alive and you are racing against the clock while trying to not make errors that may impact prosecution. He said until you know what you're really dealing with, it's difficult to direct an investigation with long-term strategies etc.

Makes sense JMO
 
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Brian Entin


@BrianEntin
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An unmarked SUV pulled into Nancy Guthrie's garage and the door closed before we could see who got out
Maybe NG’s family if something significant has been discovered and/or will be announced soon…..
MOO
 
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Hypothetically-
Let’s say perp has a lawyer already. Lawyer has warned perp that LE is probably close.

SG’s video seemed to hold equal weight on info leading to arrest OR NG’s body.

Perp knows where body is. Attorney uses as a bargaining chip to take DP off the table or immunity for someone who was an accessory or had knowledge…… like a romantic partner or close family member.

All total and complete speculation. However, with all the crazy twist and turns in this case, I cannot recall seeing suits on the scene until now 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

MOO
 
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Well, my comment was mainly replying to the comment about the possible smell. I was offering an idea that some people have been known to use different things to affect the rate of decomposition and cut down on the smell of a decaying body. On would hope they would have found something on the first go round. How many times have they released the house, again?
Too many times already
 
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immunity for someone who was an accessory or had knowledge…… like a romantic partner or close family member.
I believe this will be the key that opens all the doors.

JMO
 
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Hypothetically-
Let’s say perp has a lawyer already. Lawyer has wanted perp that LE is probably close.

SG’s video seemed to hold equal weight on info leading to arrest OR NG’s body.

Perp knows where body is. Attorney uses as a bargaining chip to take DP off the table or immunity for someone who was an accessory or had knowledge…… like a romantic partner or close family member.

In total and complete speculation. However, with all the crazy twist and turns in this case, I cannot recall seeing suits on the scene until now 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

MOO
Maybe. Just adding arrest AND conviction. MOO
 
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NOTE: Family reward of up to $1 million will be paid only for recovery of Nancy Guthrie, consistent with FBI criteria for payment of its reward in this case: NANCY GUTHRIE | Federal Bureau of Investigation


information leading to the recovery of Nancy Guthrie and/or the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance.
This is just a shocking photo of SG. It is unadulterated, raw, grief. I can only imagine what it took for her to gather herself together enough to make the statement. If someone wanted to torture her emotionally, they couldn't have figured a better way to do it. Wow.
 
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I think this is probably spot on. I had been having the same thoughts but hadn't had the time to articulate them in this way.

It still doesn't answer the WHY or the question of what they hoped to gain from kidnapping NG, but I think it is a very well thought out plan and process of what happened.
IMHO, I believe the motive or WHY is anger and revenge. An ex of SG, ex-boyfriend or ex-BFF (male or female), ex-hubby, someone with a grudge that they have been carrying around for a long, long time.

I also believe the perp targeted SG's mom because they knew she was close to her mom and wanted to hurt her but couldn't do it directly to her without being identified or found out. (indirectly hurting her)

I believe it is a stalker but not in the sense of a stranger, someone who knows SG and knows NG. Perhaps an old friend from grammar school or high school. Someone who knows the layout of the house, because they have been there before, but not in a long, long time. (think of the comfort the perp had as he approached the front door, as if he had been there before)

In the case of an ex-boyfriend, I think the term that is used is femicide. "With femicide, the main risk factors relate to the aggressor, type of relationship and motive."

As the article below states "the aggressor is typically a known person, mostly a partner or ex-partner with whom the victim shared an abusive relationship characterized by continuous physical and/or psychological aggressions and death threats. The motive is usually represented by extreme jealousy due to an imaginary or real assumption that the victim is dating some other man, which frequently leads to so-called “honor” killing, or by a sense of ownership leading the aggressor to refuse the advocated end of the relationship. In this scenario, as explained by Garcia-Vergara et al. [9], the lethal act is justified by the distorted conceptions of the aggressor about authority, possessiveness, and the subordinate position of women, which result in the perception of a loss of control of the partner through separation or divorce."

"A related risk factor for femicide, thoroughly analyzed by McFarlane et al. [15] and to which separated/divorced women are mostly exposed, is stalking behavior, described as the act of the perpetrator following or spying on the victim or trying to keep in touch with her against her will."
I'm guessing everyone has had a least one bad relationship/bad breakup in their past.

So, who in SG's past FITS this description?

THIS ATTACHED ARTICLE IS VERY GRAPHIC *****GRAPHIC WARNING*****

 
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That looks like her bedding on the floor on the rug.
It looks like a clear plastic bag with soda bottles for recycling in it to me.jmo
 
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That looks like her bedding on the floor on the rug.
This is the casita which is the little guest house by the pool- if i'm not mistaken.
IMO
 
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That's awful. Poor man.
and he was thoroughly eviscerated on this board by some. It was way out of line to scope out past or present acquaintances of a family member, even past when the family had been cleared. Definitely intrusive if not libelous. jmo moo
 

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