Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[warp3dwing]

I keep wondering if the front walkway to the driveway was staged. Seems likely that 2 people may have carried her. Since there was blood in the house, they seemed to have avoided getting blood on their shoes, stepping in her blood or leaving a trail of blood from their shoes. JMO

Yeah, I think there's something about the blood on the porch that isn't quite right. There may be blood inside, but I don't see any on the front threshold, although arguably it's hard to see. I don't see any large drops at all closer that the spattery area. It seems even weirder seeing it from above.

 

[minazoe]

I don't think the blood was staged, unless the whole thing was staged and Nancy never made it home. The FBI agent on AshBan's P-Cast last night said she doesn't believe that the drop off in the garage could happen with the timer showing they were in and out in 2 minutes.

it's all so HINKYFIED! mOO

 

[LRinCA]

Just to add, I wonder if she was on some medication like blood thinners that would make the blood situation look worse.

Although losing any blood at that age is bad.

Given the appearance of her forearm in this photo I have wondered about blood thinners and easy bleeding. I think I also recall seeing a photo of her with a bandage on her forearm.

Editing to add another photo and link:

Savannah Guthrie Says "It's Never Too Late" In New Video Two Weeks After Her Mom Nancy's Abduction

Savannah Guthrie shared an update following her mom Nancy's abduction two weeks ago. See her latest message here.

www.instyle.com

Savannah Guthrie Says "It's Never Too Late" In New Video Two Weeks After Her Mom Nancy's Abduction

Savannah Guthrie shared an update following her mom Nancy's abduction two weeks ago. See her latest message here.

www.instyle.com

 

[Napoli]

I keep wondering if the front walkway to the driveway was staged. Seems likely that 2 people may have carried her. Since there was blood in the house, they seemed to have avoided getting blood on their shoes, stepping in her blood or leaving a trail of blood from their shoes. JMO

I have no doubt there was blood in the house. However, AB said it and she got that info from her "source". IMHO, AB lost all credibility weeks ago. I don't think NG bled on cue as the perp stepped on the walkway but there is NO statement from LE confirming blood in the house. I think you make a great point though..no blood trail from shoes and for me that says NG was carried out over the perps shoulder with head pointing down. He steps ahead of the blood flow. Fireman's carry. Hey! maybe the perp IS A FIREMAN? jmo JMO
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[factseeking]

I don't think the blood was staged, unless the whole thing was staged and Nancy never made it home. The FBI agent on AshBan's P-Cast last night said she doesn't believe that the drop off in the garage could happen with the timer showing they were in and out in 2 minutes.

it's all so HINKYFIED! mOO

@minazoe could you just clarify what is meant here re: the FBI agent saying she doesn't believe the drop off in the garage could happen with the timer showing in and out in 2 minutes? Was the FBI agent saying she doesn't believe the SIL drop-off at 9:48 ish or was she talking about something else?

 

[submarine7]

I don't know if STS is an allowed source but yesterday they had two retired PC LE and one of them said Tucson does have some cameras at red lights and also another type that can capture footage along with license readers. That made me more hopeful.

 

[minazoe]

@minazoe could you just clarify what is meant here re: the FBI agent saying she doesn't believe the drop off in the garage could happen with the timer showing in and out in 2 minutes? Was the FBI agent saying she doesn't believe the SIL drop-off at 9:48 ish or was she talking about something else?

she said that she doesn't believe that the drop off could happen inside the garage in two minutes...in and out. so I guess she is not convinced of any timeline out there. you can listen to AshBan's p-cast from last night where it is mentioned. It was in her opinion and not the general consensus..but her opinion as an FBI agent and in her experience. mOO

 

[shadowsc]

I saw somebody say that it's very likely a nose bleed and that the area with most spatter looks consistent with her coughing at that point which would create a similar pattern.

JMO

I remember early on that Nancy Grace said on her show that the blood pattern looked like a nose bleed and as if Nancy had left the house upright. I don't have the link, but she was only speculating out loud anyway.

 

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[ferretnurse]

My phone is on do not disturb all day and night. It works for me.

Same. I'm on call 7 on, 7 off, came off call for a week this morning. First thing I did was mute my phone for the week. I literally cringe when it rings at this point. I don't turn it all the way off, though.

I don't think the guy at the door is a meth addict, as has been suggested. Meth tends to make people disorganized, and when they commit crimes, they rarely leave so little evidence. I'd buy an opiate addict, though. Many high functioning opiate addicts, to the point that people can keep it a secret. Meth, not so much. My job takes me through the biggest open drug market on the east coast of the US pretty often, and the meth addicts are pretty easy to pick out.

I don't have a firm theory on this one. Nothing fits 100%.

 

[Cassie P]

What's interesting is that immediately adjacent to those print marks (whatever they are), there are intact blood drops. So, if the pattern was caused by a hand or a shoe or whatever, those nearby drops would've been deposited after that print was left.

I can almost imagine two separate blood trails on the porch, which could explain why the blood is so all over the place and not just one dripping line from the door to the driveway. Could Nancy have entered and exited the porch from the pavement and not via the front door?

ETA: Perhaps her left hand was placed on the tile just off the mat (3rd column from right, 2nd row from door), and that's why the spatter doesn't appear in that spot, although you'd think it would.

BBM
What would the logistics be if she entered and exited the porch from the pavement and not the front door?

 

[Katrinepa]

Yes, I thought it was quite a significant amount of blood also. Looking at the pattern of blood spots, I'm sure that there is also some on the mat. Then, there was some apparently on the walk all the way to the car, although from what has been posted here (I haven't seen it) the number of blood spots diminishes after they leave the porch. Of course, we don't know for sure, but I'm envisioning that the blood started inside the house and we're seeing the higher quantity of droplets at the porch as the perp likely slowed down while exiting the house - getting her through the door. If that is the case, that they started inside, it really is quite a bit of blood. If it's a simple nosebleed, it's a gusher! All this tells me that there was likely a fairly violent incident inside the home. I've come to the conclusion that she most likely was killed in the home or died soon after leaving it. Any way you slice it, very, very sad.

Being on a Pacemaker, and taking medications to prevent clotting in the veins/arteries, she would bleed easily. We do not know what her medical history is, so I would not assume how or why the blood drops exist. I have a pseudo hemophilia, and can bleed /bruise very easily, and sometimes unexpectedly. This piece of information doesn't explain the whys or wherefores of the kidnapping IMV

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

There was a major and time-consuming cleanup regarding sleuthing of KD.

It is not open season to sleuth KD just because her boyfriend LD was detained and released. There is nothing in MSM or from LE to indicate that she is a POI / suspect in this case. If that changes, only time will tell. Until then, stop sleuthing her.

Also, for the millionth +/- time, JLR (and his info) is NOT an approved source at Websleuths.

 

[emigrate]

I'm staying here that is too much for me on the new forum, for now anyways, lol. I read all that and I got the dizzies.

 

[TIGER0822]

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I hope they can follow direction of the car and view all the cameras on the route .

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Today I read about another (botched) home invasion extortion for bitcoin. My fear is this crime (ransom) increases the incidences of those type of demands. I hope there are ways the FBI is able to track down the perps in this case to serve as a warning to others that might copy cat ransom/extortion as well.

Thread 'OR- Fake postal worker charged in violent home invasion and extortion of cryptocurrency, 26 Feb 2026'
OR- Fake postal worker charged in violent home invasion and extortion of cryptocurrency, 26 Feb 2026

 

[warp3dwing]

BBM
What would the logistics be if she entered and exited the porch from the pavement and not the front door?

I haven't the slightest idea. I suppose the condition of the inside of the house and the status of the front door and screen door should help validate or disprove this theory.

I do feel like a straight line walk from the front door to a car would show a different blood pattern. Likewise, if Nancy were over the suspect's shoulder or even being carried out some other way, I imagine we'd still see a straight-ish trail of blood. I think the blood tells a slightly more complicated story than "out the door to the car." But I haven't a clue what it is. What're your thoughts?

 

[The Missing Canoe]

I haven't the slightest idea. I suppose the condition of the inside of the house and the status of the front door and screen door should help validate or disprove this theory.

I do feel like a straight line walk from the front door to a car would show a different blood pattern. Likewise, if Nancy were over the suspect's shoulder or even being carried out some other way, I imagine we'd still see a straight-ish trail of blood. I think the blood tells a slightly more complicated story than "out the door to the car." But I haven't a clue what it is. What're your thoughts?

I believe it was OldCop who theorized a while back something like a turn and a pause while exiting the door. Like if you were making sure the door shut behind you, though that’s not the only possibility. JMO

 

[Moonchime]

I guess this can be taken at face value, or not. One never knows during an investigation.

So true. This case is bewildering to say the least.