Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I’m attaching a copy of @warp3dwing’s excellent graphic which I rotated 180° to give a perspective of exiting Nancy Guthrie’s front door from inside and a copy of a photo from Fox News Digital which shows the front door of her home.

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Entering from the front the door knob is to your right. Exiting it is to your left. Some folks have speculated PG is left handed. Picture him in the doorway facing out. He has Nancy over his left shoulder in a fireman’s carry. He reaches across his body and opens the door with his right hand and pushes it outward. He pivots right holding on to the door as he steps out, which would swing Mrs Guthrie to the left of the front door, head down. He pulls the door closed behind him stepping out on to the porch still facing more to the right. He then brings his stride forward towards the street. He does not step in Mrs Guthrie’s blood in this scenario. Thoughts?

In the door video, he is clutching the gun holster in his left hand- grabbing at the doorbell camera with his right....I would guess (?) the gun hand is the dominant hand ....but just a guess. Is it possible he could not find a lefty holster and that kind of led to his funky carry position (looks like a righty holster) or is the lantana right hand the dominant one?

 

[K9Enzo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2027522352968610295

Interesting they still have AG’s vehicle. The family and spouses have been cleared by Sheriff Nanos so it must not be considered an evidence container. IMO

 

[warp3dwing]

I’m attaching a copy of @warp3dwing’s excellent graphic which I rotated 180° to give a perspective of exiting Nancy Guthrie’s front door from inside and a copy of a photo from Fox News Digital which shows the front door of her home.

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Entering from the front the door knob is to your right. Exiting it is to your left. Some folks have speculated PG is left handed. Picture him in the doorway facing out. He has Nancy over his left shoulder in a fireman’s carry. He reaches across his body and opens the door with his right hand and pushes it outward. He pivots right holding on to the door as he steps out, which would swing Mrs Guthrie to the left of the front door, head down. He pulls the door closed behind him stepping out on to the porch still facing more to the right. He then brings his stride forward towards the street. He does not step in Mrs Guthrie’s blood in this scenario. Thoughts?

Great idea to rotate the image! Just that one change of perspective is really helpful.

Do you think the patterns shown here are partial shoeprints? If so, would that mean the suspect might have been on the left side?

 

[Moonchime]

I don't think it's a kidnapping. I think it's an abduction and, to me, it has an 'LE' feel to it in that whoever it is knew what NOT to do. They either watch a lot of true crime TV re investigations and what is involved with evidence, etc or they have some first hand knowledge in their background before they went off the deep end and gave in to settling a score. NG may be collateral damage so-to-speak This may not be directed to the Guthries at all but to someone else entirely.
MOO

Your post really got my mind turning and led me to consider an entirely different possibility. What if the person seen on the porch never actually went inside the house?

Could it be that their role was simply to be captured on the Nest camera, dressed in intimidating clothing and a mask, to deliberately steer law enforcement toward the idea of an unknown “boogeyman,” rather than toward what truly happened?

In my theory, the individual who may have actually been inside with NG was someone familiar to her, a person who had legitimate reasons to be in and out of the home. This could have been someone who worked for her or assisted her in some capacity, which would naturally explain the presence of their DNA inside.

Personally, I don’t believe this was an abduction or kidnapping. Sadly, I believe it was a murder.

That’s why the porch individual stands out to me. If this theory were true, their purpose may have been to play a role, to create a frightening, cinematic distraction. And they certainly looked like a character straight out of a movie. MOO.

 

[warp3dwing]

BBM

Yes but the data (evidence) tells us the story of what happened, whether it makes sense or not to us. So we look at the data and base the story of what happened on that. What would best explain the blood drops and pattern? Then we go from there to figure out what happened.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure we have the evidence required to determine the manner or egress one way or the other. We don't know where the blood inside the house is. We don't know if there is blood on the mat or the threshold. We don't even know whether the screen door and front door were opened, locked when found, or have blood on them. Until we know more, I think it's probably a reasonable assumption to think the suspect and Nancy went out the front door.

Are you thinking differently? You know I'm open to it!

 

[SMK777]

Your post really got my mind turning and led me to consider an entirely different possibility. What if the person seen on the porch never actually went inside the house?

Could it be that their role was simply to be captured on the Nest camera, dressed in intimidating clothing and a mask, to deliberately steer law enforcement toward the idea of an unknown “boogeyman,” rather than toward what truly happened?

In my theory, the individual who may have actually been inside with NG was someone familiar to her, a person who had legitimate reasons to be in and out of the home. This could have been someone who worked for her or assisted her in some capacity, which would naturally explain the presence of their DNA inside.

Personally, I don’t believe this was an abduction or kidnapping. Sadly, I believe it was a murder.

That’s why the porch individual stands out to me. If this theory were true, their purpose may have been to play a role, to create a frightening, cinematic distraction. And they certainly looked like a character straight out of a movie. MOO.

That's a very interesting line of thought.
Extremely interesting.

If someone who worked for her wanted to silence her (say she had accused them of fraud or theft, or seen something she shouldn't have) then the porch masked man would be a deliberate misdirection.

 

[Ghostwheel]

Luckily, SG is wealthy enough to self-insure the property and not worry about any of that if it were to come to that. As of now I doubt the premiums are going up because she is just considered missing-- what if she were in the hospital for a couple months or on vacation overseas? The house would technically be unoccupied but the insurance company wouldn't consider it so.

With trusts set up the designated trustee can likely make decisions on behalf the trust. Technically, the trust owns the house. And right now they aren't doing anything legally binding like selling the property-- they are just putting up cameras and installing a security system. I don't think the estate lawyers need to get involved for that, or even a power of attorney.

I was the Successor Trustee for my mother's living trust if she became incapacitated or when she died. While she was alive, she was Trustee. So, if this was a living (revocable) trust, Nancy might be the Trustee. Since she can't be proven to be deceased, she is still Trustee. If anyone was named as a Successor Trustee, they should be able to manage the Trust since NG obviously cannot. Oddly, that would include selling the house (or everything that is within the trust) at some point should they choose to do so. Figuring out what to do long term is a wise move and may involve attorneys because a Will is also involved, so if a Trustee sells something that should go to someone in a Will, that would be awkward. JMO based on my singular experience assuming a revocable trust.

 

[Quiet Time]

Your post really got my mind turning and led me to consider an entirely different possibility. What if the person seen on the porch never actually went inside the house?

Could it be that their role was simply to be captured on the Nest camera, dressed in intimidating clothing and a mask, to deliberately steer law enforcement toward the idea of an unknown “boogeyman,” rather than toward what truly happened?

In my theory, the individual who may have actually been inside with NG was someone familiar to her, a person who had legitimate reasons to be in and out of the home. This could have been someone who worked for her or assisted her in some capacity, which would naturally explain the presence of their DNA inside.

Personally, I don’t believe this was an abduction or kidnapping. Sadly, I believe it was a murder.

That’s why the porch individual stands out to me. If this theory were true, their purpose may have been to play a role, to create a frightening, cinematic distraction. And they certainly looked like a character straight out of a movie. MOO.

I thought something along those lines also. Only I thought he may have been the look out and was there on guard in case NG tried to leave/run out the front door. They didn't want that to happen.

jmo

 

[kirsa]

I’m sincerely hoping Nancy is still alive. Why take her just to harm her? Regardless, the prospect of being held captive for near on a MONTH is just so terrifying. Doesn’t bear thinking about

 

[cherryleaf]

Your post really got my mind turning and led me to consider an entirely different possibility. What if the person seen on the porch never actually went inside the house?

Could it be that their role was simply to be captured on the Nest camera, dressed in intimidating clothing and a mask, to deliberately steer law enforcement toward the idea of an unknown “boogeyman,” rather than toward what truly happened?

In my theory, the individual who may have actually been inside with NG was someone familiar to her, a person who had legitimate reasons to be in and out of the home. This could have been someone who worked for her or assisted her in some capacity, which would naturally explain the presence of their DNA inside.

Personally, I don’t believe this was an abduction or kidnapping. Sadly, I believe it was a murder.

That’s why the porch individual stands out to me. If this theory were true, their purpose may have been to play a role, to create a frightening, cinematic distraction. And they certainly looked like a character straight out of a movie. MOO.

I asked myself early on ..what would a person pick up to handle a doorbell camera during an attempted robbery…would they pick up a rock to smash and try to destroy it or choose some plants to disable it? NG front door is surrounded by rocks, yet they grabbed a plant from a pot. It’s atypical and it stands out. Moo

 

[DizzyB]

I was the Successor Trustee for my mother's living trust if she became incapacitated or when she died. While she was alive, she was Trustee. So, if this was a living (revocable) trust, Nancy might be the Trustee. Since she can't be proven to be deceased, she is still Trustee. If anyone was named as a Successor Trustee, they should be able to manage the Trust since NG obviously cannot. Oddly, that would include selling the house (or everything that is within the trust) at some point should they choose to do so. Figuring out what to do long term is a wise move and may involve attorneys because a Will is also involved, so if a Trustee sells something that should go to someone in a Will, that would be awkward. JMO based on my singular experience assuming a revocable trust.

A lot of us were amazed at how quickly Barry Morphew moved to gain guardianship over Suzanne so that he could sell properties. Lawyers most likely are putting in hours so that things are handled timely. As someone mentioned, even the occupancy of the house has changed, for insurance purposes.

 

[SlimPickens]

Your post really got my mind turning and led me to consider an entirely different possibility. What if the person seen on the porch never actually went inside the house?

Could it be that their role was simply to be captured on the Nest camera, dressed in intimidating clothing and a mask, to deliberately steer law enforcement toward the idea of an unknown “boogeyman,” rather than toward what truly happened?

In my theory, the individual who may have actually been inside with NG was someone familiar to her, a person who had legitimate reasons to be in and out of the home. This could have been someone who worked for her or assisted her in some capacity, which would naturally explain the presence of their DNA inside.

Personally, I don’t believe this was an abduction or kidnapping. Sadly, I believe it was a murder.

That’s why the porch individual stands out to me. If this theory were true, their purpose may have been to play a role, to create a frightening, cinematic distraction. And they certainly looked like a character straight out of a movie. MOO.

Interesting theory! I think the Sheriff would still be 'the man' if all of your scenario played out like that though, and it appears he has been sidelined by the big dogs for the most part. But I like the idea, but with a kidnapping for ransom motive, or something else that steers more towards federal oversight.

To your last line - I agree the outfit was worn for a reason, but not for the same reason. I feel like he intended to obscure his looks beyond recognition and to not leave any physical trace behind. Seems to have worked in both regards.

JMO.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department is refocusing resources to detectives specifically assigned to this case. As leads are developed and resolved, resource allocation may fluctuate," they noted.

The PCSD additionally said it will still "maintain a patrol presence" in the neighborhood around Nancy's home.

The PCSD resources overhaul is the latest ominous sign that authorities are still without any major leads or direction of investigation in Tucson.

The FBI also moved its Tucson command post to its larger satellite office in Phoenix the day prior.

While a few agents will remain closer to where Guthrie vanished, the relocation north will provide more efficiency for the operation, as the office has more physical resources and many members of the team investigating the abduction live in the Phoenix area.

Pima County Sheriff's Department 'Refocusing Resources' in Missing Nancy Guthrie Case as Search For NBC Star Savannah's Mom Approaches 1-Month Mark

The PCSD said it will be 'refocusing resources' to the detectives specifically assigned to the case, in what seems to be a scale-down.

radaronline.com

 

[agnesgrey]

I’m sincerely hoping Nancy is still alive. Why take her just to harm her? Regardless, the prospect of being held captive for near on a MONTH is just so terrifying. Doesn’t bear thinking about

How many children are kidnapped and just killed?

 

[GrannySheri]

The reporter in this video drives the route from Nancy's home to where the latest Ring video captured that car passing at 2:36 AM.

FBI analyzes hours of video in Nancy Guthrie search

Investigators are combing through thousands of hours of surveillance video in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, including newly obtained Ring footage captured 2.5 miles from her home around the time she vanished. NBC News' Liz Kreutz reports.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Until there is any security footage of Nancy herself entering through her garage, she might not have

Nancy could have still entered her home through the front door and had been ambushed there, which would explain the blood drops around that area

and it still has NOT been confirmed by the sheriff that the offender/s committed a forced entry
With so much televised footage of her property, there doesn't seem to be any notice of broken windows or doors as an entry

Then I think she was wrapped up in a blanket or some covering, picked up, and driven into a vehicle by someone else

I think more than one person was there at her home

And her bedroom and parts of her home to stage a crime scene

Her pacemaker app last disconnected from her phone at approximately 2.28 am

Nancy could have been taken earlier, and her pacemaker app then disconnected, taken somewhere closeby, which might explain why the helicopter was using Bluefly tech to trace her pacemaker around the area

Importantly News of the DNA Sample recovered from inside Nancy Guthrie's Tucson home was considered 'low-level',

meaning there may not be enough material to generate a reliable match in federal or private databases.

No confirmation that Nancy's blood was found inside

a 41-minute window in the early morning of February 1, about four hours after she said goodbye to her son-in-law Is interesting as well.

What kidnapper wants to hang around?

They want to do the job and get out as quickly as possible in case the LE is called, witnesses spot someone, or a vehicle

This offender/s seem pretty laid back and comfortable being in there, and he/them have then gone around and disabled the cameras

Several of Ms. Guthrie's personal items, including her mobile phone, wallet, and her car, were still there after she disappeared.

Why didn't the offender/s take these? Easy to place in a backpack.

The offender/s weren't interested in these

DNA sample now complicates Nancy Guthrie case as family raises $1M reward

Investigators have turned to genetic genealogy to identify DNA found at Nancy Guthrie's home after her kidnapping.

san.com

DNA sample now complicates Nancy Guthrie case as family raises $1M reward

Investigators have turned to genetic genealogy to identify DNA found at Nancy Guthrie's home after her kidnapping.

san.com

There is something that doesn't make sense in the Nancy Guthrie case

What initially seemed like a high-profile kidnapping that might be resolved with a multi-million-dollar bank transfer has now morphed into something else.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Diddian]

I can't remember who it was, but someone theorized that there might be square patterns in a few of the drops that might be indicative of a pattern on a shoe sole. JMO/MOO

It was @Tortoise who brought up possible patterns from the sole of a shoe in some of the blood marks:

I think I see what could be repeat (square shaped) transfer blood stains from the sole of a shoe. If they ever catch this person, and/or track his purchases from Walmart, if he purchased his whole outfit there, they might be able to put him at the scene via prints if not DNA. JMO

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[kirsa]

How many children are kidnapped and just killed?

I know but aren’t most children abducted by strangers abused then killed? This seems to be an entirely different kettle of fish

 

[Bodhi]

That's right. Not all people on a fixed budget can afford special lighting that adheres to all their dark sky guidelines so I imagine some just don't have lights at all. I guess my point is not all people have the same needs or resources yet government seems to find a way to force everyone in the same square box. They should stay out of it entirely.

The light fixtures don't cost any more. There are dark sky-compliant light fixtures in all price ranges and all styles. Inexpensive ones are available at Walmart or Lowes. Prices are the same as non-compliant fixtures. Styles run the gamut from basic jelly jar to barnlight to coastal, and so on. You may have dark sky outdoor lighting without realizing it. What makes outdoor lighting "dark sky" is the top of the fixture is solid, preventing light from shining upward into the sky. Other than the Bat Signal, projecting light skyward offers no benefit in security or safety. Dark sky lighting has no drawbacks I'm aware of and lots of benefits to humans and animals.

 

[iamshadow21]

I know but aren’t most children abducted by strangers abused then killed? This seems to be an entirely different kettle of fish

How do we know that, though?

There's not anything that rules that out.

MOO