• #41,781
LD, during his interview, denied ever being truly close to NG's house . Other than the 2 miles he lives from her.
I had thought that maybe one of the reasons for the search warrant was that his cell may have popped up close by due to geofencing. Hopefully he is telling the truth on that....

His attorney mentioned that an 'informant' may have tipped off LE and that led to the search warrant. I'm wondering if the lady LD was arrested with last year in a Walmart parking lot gave LE a bogus "tip". She was arrested 1 day before the swat raid ,so the timing seems to line up.

Don't want to criticize MD because she has been thru a lot. And she is 77. But I caught her saying at the beginning of her interview(20 seconds in) that she never met NG. But in Brian Entin's interview with LD's attorney---he mentioned that MD met both SG and NG at a grocery store. The attorney said-- (paraphrasing) "yeah-MD told me she met them".
OK. I guess I will just discount that to memory loss.
I thought the same thing about MD when she said she hadn't met her. My impression was she seemed very medicated.
 
  • #41,782
Attorney just wants to convert public opinion as soon as humanly possible so he can get a good jury pool for that lawsuit he's about to file. It's likely as simple as that. Garnering sympathy goes a long way in negotiations for damages.

JMO.
Wow. Never thought about the attorney using this interview to convert public opinion and garner sympathy for LD, and that makes sense.
 
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What's behind NG's home? Backyard touching her backyard?
I’ve asked along these lines too Napoli.

Does anyone local have a Google view of her neighbourhood that shows neighbours proximity etc ?
 
  • #41,784
LD, during his interview, denied ever being truly close to NG's house . Other than the 2 miles he lives from her.
I had thought that maybe one of the reasons for the search warrant was that his cell may have popped up close by due to geofencing. Hopefully he is telling the truth on that....

His attorney mentioned that an 'informant' may have tipped off LE and that led to the search warrant. I'm wondering if the lady LD was arrested with last year in a Walmart parking lot gave LE a bogus "tip". She was arrested 1 day before the swat raid ,so the timing seems to line up.

Don't want to criticize MD because she has been thru a lot. And she is 77. But I caught her saying at the beginning of her interview(20 seconds in) that she never met NG. But in Brian Entin's interview with LD's attorney---he mentioned that MD met both SG and NG at a grocery store. The attorney said-- (paraphrasing) "yeah-MD told me she met them".
OK. I guess I will just discount that to memory loss.

… and she never knew NG lived close by? She seemed to contradict herself on knowing / not knowing NG / never hearing about her . It was odd . Moo.
 
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If LD isn't the suspect, and I don't feel like he is now that I've seen the interview and he has had his Range Rover returned (which is huge), then I am now convinced that they have very little to go on. And if that is true, then it pretty much confirms to me that this isn't some small town hustler or one-off criminal.

With little to go on 30 days in, this was likely a professional hit or an experienced sadist.

JMO.
 
  • #41,787
This doesn’t happen to me often. After watching this mind numbing interview, I just stared at the wall.

I need to think on why I’m so bothered. IMO

We saw and heard some very disturbing things. Both LD and his mother concerned me a great deal, not because I was thinking he was the perp, but because of their disconnect from emotion, responsibility and reality. JMO
 
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sheriff says investigators are getting 'closer'​


"I think the investigators are definitely closer," Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said in an interview Monday about the progress of the case.


"I've said this from the beginning: I have full faith, full confidence, they're going to solve this," Nanos said, adding that there have been “thousands” of leads since Guthrie, 84, the mother of "TODAY" co-anchor Savannah Guthrie, disappeared.


FBI Makes ‘Telling’ Moves That Suggest a Major Change​

The FBI appears set to take over the Nancy Guthrie case.


Ever since 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie was presumably kidnapped from her Arizona home on Feb. 1, the Pima County Sheriff’s Department has been leading the investigation as authorities search for answers. However, it sounds like that could be changing in the near future.

While the Pima County Sheriff’s Department has been leading the way the past several weeks, a former FBI agent has noticed some “telling” moves that seem to suggest the FBI is poised to take over and lead the way in the case.





https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...kes-telling-moves-that-suggest-a-major-change

 
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Just starting to watch the LD interview and it’s already a disaster. He thinks the video doesn’t look like him!!

Yikes. We’ll see how it goes but so far, not good. What was he thinking!
Don’t worry, later in the interview he takes it back and says that some parts of the porch guy’s face could look like anyone. MOO
 
  • #41,790
LD, during his interview, denied ever being truly close to NG's house . Other than the 2 miles he lives from her.
I had thought that maybe one of the reasons for the search warrant was that his cell may have popped up close by due to geofencing. Hopefully he is telling the truth on that....

His attorney mentioned that an 'informant' may have tipped off LE and that led to the search warrant. I'm wondering if the lady LD was arrested with last year in a Walmart parking lot gave LE a bogus "tip". She was arrested 1 day before the swat raid ,so the timing seems to line up.

Don't want to criticize MD because she has been thru a lot. And she is 77. But I caught her saying at the beginning of her interview(20 seconds in) that she never met NG. But in Brian Entin's interview with LD's attorney---he mentioned that MD met both SG and NG at a grocery store. The attorney said-- (paraphrasing) "yeah-MD told me she met them".
OK. I guess I will just discount that to memory loss.
Wow! I need to go back and watch Brian’s interview with the attorney, that’s crazy! A small but important change in story imo.

I took the phone thing as LD was at least smart enough to not bring his phone along with him. But that’s just my own humble opinion.
 
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If LD isn't the suspect, and I don't feel like he is now that I've seen the interview and he has had his Range Rover returned (which is huge), then I am now convinced that they have very little to go on. And if that is true, then it pretty much confirms to me that this isn't some small town hustler or one-off criminal.

With little to go on 30 days in, this was likely a professional hit or an experienced sadist.

JMO.
I had been hopeful that the FBI and LE had a lot of evidence and some strong suspicians about possible suspects. At this point, though, I agree that LE really doesn't seem to have any viable suspects and this perpetrator--who seemed to enjoy the planning and executing of being violent to a 84 year old women--may not be arrested for a long time and possibly never. JMO
 
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sheriff says investigators are getting 'closer'​


"I think the investigators are definitely closer," Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said in an interview Monday about the progress of the case.


"I've said this from the beginning: I have full faith, full confidence, they're going to solve this," Nanos said, adding that there have been “thousands” of leads since Guthrie, 84, the mother of "TODAY" co-anchor Savannah Guthrie, disappeared.


FBI Makes ‘Telling’ Moves That Suggest a Major Change​

The FBI appears set to take over the Nancy Guthrie case.


Ever since 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie was presumably kidnapped from her Arizona home on Feb. 1, the Pima County Sheriff’s Department has been leading the investigation as authorities search for answers. However, it sounds like that could be changing in the near future.

While the Pima County Sheriff’s Department has been leading the way the past several weeks, a former FBI agent has noticed some “telling” moves that seem to suggest the FBI is poised to take over and lead the way in the case.





https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...kes-telling-moves-that-suggest-a-major-change

IMO this would be excellent news. JMO
 
  • #41,795
I thought the same thing about MD when she said she hadn't met her. My impression was she seemed very medicated.
I am well-versed in psychology and mental health and I understand the effects medication can have. That was my impression as well. There are medications that can make someone extremely calm, passive, emotionally flat and significantly reduce anxiety. I wouldn’t be surprised if LD also took something to help manage his anxiety before the interview (if he is truly guilty).

Additionally, police may release someone if they do not have enough evidence to hold or charge them. So just because someone is released does not mean they are not guilty of the crime.
 
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I think there's a couple things going on there. One, I suspect she's medicated. And two, as a mental health professional she appears to bounce between her usual clinical detachment and then responds personally when the interviewer demands it. The result is indeed disjointed. IMO
 
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If LD isn't the suspect, and I don't feel like he is now that I've seen the interview and he has had his Range Rover returned (which is huge), then I am now convinced that they have very little to go on. And if that is true, then it pretty much confirms to me that this isn't some small town hustler or one-off criminal.

With little to go on 30 days in, this was likely a professional hit or an experienced sadist.

JMO.
BBM - I agree with this. Jmo.

My theory = revenge. Again, jmo.
 
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I had been hopeful that the FBI and LE had a lot of evidence and some strong suspicians about possible suspects. At this point, though, I agree that LE really doesn't seem to have any viable suspects and this perpetrator--who seemed to enjoy the planning and executing of being violent to a 84 year old women--may not be arrested for a long time and possibly never. JMO
You may very well be right sadly :( . On the other hand, what do we really know about FBI/LE's suspicions and evidence? We have a lot of theories. We have journalists who say they have "inside sources" but are their sources good? Imagine how much pain AB caused spreading the word that her source said the SIL was the primary suspect. We also have ex-FBI behavior profilers who offer opinions but note how careful they are about what they say because they know they don't have all the pieces either. I trust them the most tbh.

So, all this is to say what if the FBI does have suspicions? What if they are following good leads that we don't know about? I know it's been 30 days and again, you may be absolutely right but let's hope you are wrong ❤️

JMO as always!
 
  • #41,799
If LD isn't the suspect, and I don't feel like he is now that I've seen the interview and he has had his Range Rover returned (which is huge), then I am now convinced that they have very little to go on. And if that is true, then it pretty much confirms to me that this isn't some small town hustler or one-off criminal.

With little to go on 30 days in, this was likely a professional hit or an experienced sadist.

JMO.
People always say it's very, very hard to solve a crime if it was truly a random perpetrator previously unknown to the victim. This case has been a stark reminder of that. Seems like it truly could've been a random Kohberger type, just without (as far as we know) any smoking gun evidence like a sheath left behind. :confused:

Could've been anyone that saw Nancy at any time, just like we still don't know exactly why Kohberger targeted his victims.

So so frustrating and awful, and it's devastating the Guthries haven't gotten their mom back and can't feel safe knowing this creep is still out there.
 
  • #41,800
If LD isn't the suspect, and I don't feel like he is now that I've seen the interview and he has had his Range Rover returned (which is huge), then I am now convinced that they have very little to go on. And if that is true, then it pretty much confirms to me that this isn't some small town hustler or one-off criminal.
I think it’s still too early to say that there’s very little to go on. Who knows what they have? I agree it’s very unlikely to be LD, though. I was hopeful on the day of the search, but it has been too long now for him to be a viable suspect. If it had been him, I feel that investigators would have known quickly.

My hunch is still that the perp is someone who appears beyond suspicion for this kind of crime. Possibly a one-off criminal, but certainly not someone you’d include on a list of regular violent offenders. Unusually bright, and probably known to be. He might commit white-collar crime. He’s probably good with risk, so not afraid of making choices that seem risky to others. Callous, obviously, but not in a way that’s obvious to everyone. People close to him will know, though. Women who’ve been close to him definitely will.

Knows Tucson but may have driven far from it immediately after the abduction.

Despite the careful planning, I’m guessing he’ll be identified through investigative work. The reward may not be claimed.

All just opinions and hunches.
 
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