Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Silverstorm]

Same. Due to the lining around the wrists, the chest line, and the zipper line, I am leaning towards the brand "Land's End".

I really thought Columbia. But columbia doesn’t have a brand logo showing.This Guy does not have a logo showing.I will find him.

 

[meade]

I think porch guy. Some new people can in here and started a trend of calling lantana man porch guy

Thanks. I favor "lantana man."

 

[wibbleflea]

While the retired FBI profiler that BE interviewed in the below video had many interesting points, I especially noted 3 comments.

1. He thought that the video of the perpetrator makes it clear that he's an amateur.

2. He also thought that this perpetrator's DNA should be all over NG's house.

3. He noted that the perp had a small tattoo on the back of his wrist that can be seen in the video.

He details all of these thoughts, as well as many other insights, in his interview. Helpful observations, I thought.

JMO

Agreed – good interview. Let’s see if he’s right about the DNA and the tattoo.

 

[wibbleflea]

DBM.
Because I need you to explain this to me like I am 5.

I don’t know whether the deletion means I’ve succeeded or failed. Let’s just say that if the footage we see is from 2:12 am, then whatever type of disconnection had happened at 1:47 am wasn’t permanent.

 

[shonyakay]

I am talking about the no backpack night. We don't know what night that is, however, but the background is way darker. Could have been same night and moon was in the different place at the time too, I suppose.

I think a different date regarding the image of the man without the backpack could even mean for example, 11:30 p.m. Saturday 01/31 evening. If pieces of residual data were from 3 hours worth of footage recovered from Nancy's door nest camera via Google's servers this would mean that the image of the man without the backpack had to have been taken sometime between late evening Saturday 01/31 to early morning Sunday 02/01. If pieces of residual data are from only 1 hour worth of footage then I don't see how that image could have been taken on a different date.

If the maximum storage that video can be saved from a nest camera without a subscription is 3 hours and the minimum is 1 hour saved locally if the Wi-Fi is disrupted how can any other footage be recovered from anytime other than late Saturday evening 01/31 to early Sunday morning 02/01? That's my question.

 

[OldCop]

If entry was through the property’s back door, most of the time spent inside, including the subduing of NG, happened well before the video footage.

Remove camera around 2:12 am, leave straight afterwards with NG, with blood spatter on the porch tiles showing the route out. That’s the sequence I’ve assumed ever since Levin said FBI agents told him the video footage was from 2:12 am. The moon shadow analyses posted here previously seem to back that up.

One question, though probably not an important one.

The perp could clearly open the front door from the inside in order to leave with NG, creating the droplets in the process. So if he was inside already and could open that door, why walk around the outside of the house again to remove the camera? The same thing applies if the person we see was part of a team. They were already inside, and later left through the front door. Why walk around the house?

Why didn’t he open the front door to remove the camera, which was mounted right next to the entrance?

He could even have used something from the house to help force the camera from its mount. He would mostly have avoided being on camera, though not entirely. (We’d have seen his gloved hand and his arm – the camera’s angle of view was so wide that we see the front door handle in the lower right of the footage.)

The likely walk around the house and the use of the lantana are probably indicators of something. I just don’t know what.

Did he worry that there was an alarm or sensor on that door, and want to delay opening it for as long as possible? Did he need to get something from his vehicle before removing the camera? Did he worry that the camera would record audio of NG if the front door were open? Were lights on inside, which would have switched the camera away from night mode when the door was opened?

Hypothesis: what if lantana guy was the getaway driver. Inside man calls him on a walkie talkie and said, “We have a problem. I’m going to have to bring her out the front door. See if you can remove the Ring camera that’s by the front door and I’ll bring her out.” Nancy Guthrie may have been injured but still conscious so inside man had to maintain control?
According to LE there were other cameras on the property, but at least some of them were smashed. They also said they were not ruling out the possibility of more than one person involved.
Multiple suspects are possible in Nancy Guthrie's abduction

Maybe Inside man smashed side cameras as he made his way to the side/back to enter the house, but wasn’t concerned with the front Ring bell at the time because the plan was to take his victim out a door other than the front.

 

[shonyakay]

I don’t know whether the deletion means I’ve succeeded or failed. Let’s just say that if the footage we see is from 2:12 am, then whatever type of disconnection had happened at 1:47 am wasn’t permanent.

No, you definitely succeeded. It just went over my head a bit. Now I am back to wondering what could have caused the disconnection and if it had to be connected again what caused that reconnection.
So, and correct me if I am wrong, you don't believe a power source was cut at 1:47 a.m. to cause that disconnection?

 

[Bluewing3102]

I think a different date regarding the image of the man without the backpack could even mean for example, 11:30 p.m. Saturday 01/31 evening. If pieces of residual data were from 3 hours worth of footage recovered from Nancy's door nest camera via Google's servers this would mean that the image of the man without the backpack had to have been taken sometime between late evening Saturday 01/31 to early morning Sunday 02/01. If pieces of residual data are from only 1 hour worth of footage then I don't see how that image could have been taken on a different date.

If the maximum storage that video can be saved from a nest camera without a subscription is 3 hours and the minimum is 1 hour saved locally if the Wi-Fi is disrupted how can any other footage be recovered from anytime other than late Saturday evening 01/31 to early Sunday morning 02/01? That's my question.

Let's put it this way- the videos were being uploaded to "the cloud" aka Google Nest servers. Therefore anytime motion triggered NGs cameras it was being clipped and uploaded to Googles servers irregardless of the fact that the cameras were locally overwriting itself every 3 hours.

Google retrieved the data because it was "floating" around in their servers. Due to no subscription they were marked for deletion. But not actually deleted yet due to how recent the event was. Kinda like how you can delete a photo but still retrieve it from recently deleted, but then 30 days pass and the trash automatically empties.. just in a more complex coding and network kinda of way.


If they used a wifi jammer to disrupt the cameras that just means that the cameras wouldn't be able to upload footage to their servers during that time.