AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I’m more curious about how this Friedman guy from the Showbiz site got this info.
LE was probably not ready to release that information about the son in law. Even TMZ didn’t have that info, and they are usually the first.

Sorry I just meant 'not an approved source' ie i remembered people saying it wouldn't count as MSM.
 
  • #2,182
Oh my goodness I have just caught up.

I think with the information released this case is only going to end one way now - I just hope the daughter wasn’t involved in any way.

I think the presser yesterday makes sense now - the Sheriff was being extremely careful as they had major stuff going on in the background.

MOO is that an arrest will happen today
 
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  • #2,183
If, as you say, a family member did do this, then (whether they asked for the bitcoin ransom or not), I have a feeling that it will be connected to money somewhere and somehow.

For example, Nancy may have been under pressure to change her will. If one child doesn't 'need' inheritance (ie Savannah), then pressure can be put on elderly parents to leave everything to the sibling who is more in 'need'.

That may not sit well with a parent, who wants to feel they are being fair and equal.

Agree. I, too, have the feeling that the will might have played the role.
 
  • #2,184
<modsnip> ... I stopped trusting MSM for information a long time ago.
Did you read the article? This Friedman guy was contacting people while the Grammys were on. That was Sunday night and here we are Wednesday. It’s so curious where he found out the son in law dropped her off then “checked” on her.
Did SG get this info out to him, or someone close to her? Who would it have been on Sunday?
 
  • #2,185
I'd guess the home is worth a million. When divided by 3, that is pretty nice payout. And she likely had a bit more in savings.

And perhaps he also owed her money too?
I just don’t see it for that amount of money. It’s really not that much imo. Not nowadays anyway. Moo. Now if it were a million dollars for each maybe. If that is the case, I’m surprised I’m not dead yet. lol
 
  • #2,186
I found that article and thought it was from the NY Post and people were asking me for the link and I posted it I thought it strange that someone would contact people on the night of the Grammys with this info if they didn’t have a good source. Now I’ll have to find it bc I dont think the website implicated him and maybe that was just my conclusion putting it together in my mind. He was the last to see her (although people were saying they didnt read that he drove her home) and then went back to “check on her”. Id have to go back to yesterday and find the link. or I’ll search for it now.

Here it is Exclusive: Savannah Guthrie's Brother-in-Law Said to Have Been Last Person to See Her Alive, Phone and Handbag Left Behind - Showbiz411

Banned source? Was the link deleted from yesterday?

The way it is worded is:

" Sources say the last person who saw Nancy alive on Saturday night was her other daughter’s husband, her son-in-law, who checked in on her. He is absolutely not a suspect.

When police responded to a 911 call the next morning, they found Nancy’s house to be pristine. All of her personal belongings were in place, including her phone and her handbag.

That’s what led the police to realize this was an abduction."

This is conflicting information to what we now believe: cameras smashed, blood outside and inside.
 
  • #2,187
Sorry I just meant 'not an approved source' ie i remembered people saying it wouldn't count as MSM.
It's unusual for a show-biz reporter who isn't known outside of that niche, imo, and who doesn't cover crime to have a significant detail about a crime and ongoing investigation. The skepticism about his reporting is to be expected, imo.

But in this case, whoa.

How did he know?

jmo
 
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I just don’t see it for that amount of money. It’s really not that much imo. Not nowadays anyway. Moo. Now if it were a million dollars for each maybe. If that is the case, I’m surprised I’m not dead yet. lol
Unless you're desparate for a hunk of money right now.

There is hope she is alive and this wasn't for inheritance but cash bitcoin now, ykwim?

jmo
 
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I just don’t see it for that amount of money. It’s really not that much imo. Not nowadays anyway. Moo. Now if it were a million dollars for each maybe. If that is the case, I’m surprised I’m not dead yet. lol

If it was an inheritance based row, maybe local daughter and SIL felt Nancy should leave them her entire house, since they are local and live up the road and don't seem to have highly paid jobs like Savannah? Rather than sell it and divide it up. Property is highly contentious, and when some family are local and some aren't it can be even more so. MOO. Speculation.
 
  • #2,190
I did. If he drove her home at 10 PM and he went back to check on her…..

The Showbiz article said the SIL ‘checked in’ on Nancy also stated that he was the last person to see her alive.

Does this mean that he was the person who took NG home after dinner Saturday night or are they saying that he went to the house to check in on her later?
 
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  • #2,191
The way it is worded is:

" Sources say the last person who saw Nancy alive on Saturday night was her other daughter’s husband, her son-in-law, who checked in on her. He is absolutely not a suspect.

When police responded to a 911 call the next morning, they found Nancy’s house to be pristine. All of her personal belongings were in place, including her phone and her handbag.

That’s what led the police to realize this was an abduction."

This is conflicting information to what we now believe: cameras smashed, blood outside and inside.
BBM...almost like 'he is absolutely not a suspect'...(wink and fingers crossed)

There's definitely been a lot of conflicting information about what the inside and outside of Nancy's home looked like when LE arrived.

I do wonder now about the state of the relationship between the daughter and SIL. And if the daughter is cooperating with LE now if there are suspicions.

Did someone say that Savannah has returned home? That would make sense if there wasn't any other urgent reason and she was made aware of the suspicion around the SIL.

I am still shocked about this development. In other cases, family often seems likely and eventuates they did the crime, but for Nancy, I just didn't see it. That could also be my mind not wanting to process that someone who knew her could actually cause her harm. Harm to older adults is always shocking but when its a family member it is up there as one of the most heinous of crimes.

Someone elderly has a lifetime of experiences, relationships, has survived probably more things than younger people realise, yet one person's actions can have the power to end it (or in this case let's hope Nancy is alive somewhere).
 
  • #2,192
The way it is worded is:

" Sources say the last person who saw Nancy alive on Saturday night was her other daughter’s husband, her son-in-law, who checked in on her. He is absolutely not a suspect.

When police responded to a 911 call the next morning, they found Nancy’s house to be pristine. All of her personal belongings were in place, including her phone and her handbag.

That’s what led the police to realize this was an abduction."

This is conflicting information to what we now believe: cameras smashed, blood outside and inside.
Right. I just drew my own conclusions from that. Saying “he is not a suspect” is almost tongue in cheek…
Or “Should be a suspect but we haven’t heard about him”..if you read it that way.
Or “Doesn’t it seem he should be s suspect”.
It’s just strange.

Oh, here it doesn't say he dropped her off at 10 PM.
That was from MSM.
The checking in on her would be weird having dropped her off.
Why would he have to check in on her.
Anyway, backing off until more info comes out bc someone like Banfield could have found that article and is also making conclusions for clicks and views.
 
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The Showbiz article said the SIL ‘checked in’ on Nancy also stated that he was the last person to see her alive.

Does this mean that he was the person who took NG home after dinner Saturday night or are they saying that he went to the house to check on her later?

Various sources have said he drove her home or he and his wife drove her home around 10 PM.
Although the article doesn’t mention that, it mentions he “checked up on her”. (Checked in on her)
Which is why yesterday morning, when I found that article the whole thing sounded weird.
And that he may have been involved.

If he drove her home at 10 and we know she was gone at 2, thats only 4 hours- it would be too coincidental if someone else was involved imo.
 
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<modsnip> ... I stopped trusting MSM for information a long time ago.
Did you read the article? This Friedman guy was contacting people while the Grammys were on. That was Sunday night and here we are Wednesday. It’s so curious where he found out the son in law dropped her off then “checked” on her.
Did SG get this info out to him, or someone close to her? Who would it have been on Sunday?
It doesn't say when he checked on her.

It could simply be a reference to when they went to the house after Nancy's church friends got in touch.
 
  • #2,195
If it was an inheritance based row, maybe local daughter and SIL felt Nancy should leave them her entire house, since they are local and live up the road and don't seem to have highly paid jobs like Savannah? Rather than sell it and divide it up. Property is highly contentious, and when some family are local and some aren't it can be even more so. MOO. Speculation.
I should probably be worried then. My mom died recently and left us kids a substantial inheritance. All my kids & their family’s live in the same town as myself. I recently set up my own will beings I have a quadriplegic daughter. I told my kids what my will states. So when I die there are no surprises or issues. Advised not to. Decided I wanted to anyways. Maybe it was a mistake. A person thinks they don’t have crazies in their family. Sometimes I guess that’s not always the case. Ok. Now I’m scared. I’m going to keep my faith that none of them will kill me over the will/inheritence. I’m naïve sometimes… I hope it doesn’t happen in my life/family. Fingers crossed for the rest of my life 😉
 
  • #2,196
It doesn't say when he checked on her.

It could simply be a reference to when they went to the house after Nancy's church friends got in touch.
I know it doesn’t say when he checked on her.
If he dropped her off at 10, and she was gone at 2 am, then when would he have checked in on her?
And why?

Oh ok, I see what you mean.
Well even if he didn’t check in on her after dropping her off, he was still the last to see her.
But if he checked in on her after the friends called, then he would have seen the blood and reported it right?
And whatever was in the house.
We have conflicting reporting on whether the front door was locked.
 
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BBM...almost like 'he is absolutely not a suspect'...(wink and fingers crossed)

There's definitely been a lot of conflicting information about what the inside and outside of Nancy's home looked like when LE arrived.

I do wonder now about the state of the relationship between the daughter and SIL. And if the daughter is cooperating with LE now if there are suspicions.

Did someone say that Savannah has returned home? That would make sense if there wasn't any other urgent reason and she was made aware of the suspicion around the SIL.

I am still shocked about this development. In other cases, family often seems likely and eventuates they did the crime, but for Nancy, I just didn't see it. That could also be my mind not wanting to process that someone who knew her could actually cause her harm. Harm to older adults is always shocking but when its a family member it is up there as one of the most heinous of crimes.

Someone elderly has a lifetime of experiences, relationships, has survived probably more things than younger people realise, yet one person's actions can have the power to end it (or in this case let's hope Nancy is alive somewhere).
I didn’t expect the SIL to be involved, still hoping somehow he isn’t the prime suspect. Why would LE have waited until yesterday to take the car in as evidence? If Savannah is/was staying at her sister’s house knowing her BIL was a suspect would be creepy. When the sheriff said next update will be Thursday, he must know he will have something that will be confirmed by then regarding this case.
 
  • #2,198
I can’t imagine Savannah is not contemplating getting on air herself with a plea, media segment about her mother to get the message out so other media can run with it. What a horrible position for her to be in. I suspect we may see that coming. IMO
 
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I didn’t expect the SIL to be involved, still hoping somehow he isn’t the prime suspect. Why would LE have waited until yesterday to take the car in as evidence? If Savannah is/was staying at her sister’s house knowing her BIL was a suspect would be creepy. When the sheriff said next update will be Thursday, he must know he will have something that will be confirmed by then regarding this case.
Maybe the boyfriend/husband took off and Savannah is with her sister. It can’t be easy.
 
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Right. I just drew my own conclusions from that. Saying “he is not a suspect” is almost tongue in cheek…
Or “Should be a suspect but we haven’t heard about him”..if you read it that way.
Or “Doesn’t it seem he should be s suspect”.
It’s just strange.

Oh, here it doesn't say he dropped her off at 10 PM.
That was from MSM.
The checking in on her would be weird having dropped her off.
Why would he have to check in on her.
Anyway, backing off until more info comes out bc someone like Banfield could have found that article and is also making conclusions for clicks and views.
I would think the SIL would have a key or know the code to get into the home rather than forced entry. This part seems off. I know some people here said who is going to gain from this? Look at it from that angle and you’ll find your suspects. Are Annie and her husband in debt? I know she’s a jeweler and I believe a writer, but what is her husbands occupation? Do they have children?
 

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