GUILTY Nationwide College Cheating Scandal - Actresses, Business Owners Charged, Mar 2019 #4

[mickey2942]

True story:

So a Corrections officer I know was asked by an inmate if he would pick up drugs from outside sources and bring them into the prison for X amount of money like a few thousand $'s for each time....

So the officer countered and said he'd do it for maybe a couple million $'s. The inmate was taken aback, he's like "why do you want that much are you kidding?"

So the officer goes "I don't kid around about supporting my family. If I smuggle in drugs and get caught I will loose my job, lose my retirement which also includes health insurance, my wife and kids will lose everything also, no one will want to hire me plus I could end up in prison myself. Oh, and we would end up on the street without my income. So, I would have to have at least a couple million to help make up for all that, which by the way wouldn't even be enough."

The inmate said "ok, I see what you mean."

The point I'm trying to make here is that alot of people are short-sited. They look at scoring, wow, an X amount of money quickly! An amount that seems like alot to them and all their dreams will come true and tax free.

Look at all they could do with that money, they have bills, they want to go to Disney World, they want to put a down payment on something or pay off their over extended credit cards....

So....

They take the bait and do something illegal for the quick buck. Then when they are arrested that X amount of money ends up going to their attorney and restitution and they lose their jobs in many cases and lose other financial opportunities....Some end up in prison and lose it all.

Then they see how short-sited they were. And now, how broke they are.
All for the quick money scheme without seeing the long game. I recommend playing the long game.

True. And in this case, OJ could have easily gone to some college, where ever, not a fancy school, but probably a normal college, and shown the same sort of Instagram Social Influence from, whatever college, and people would have still paid her and followed her. I don't know, some community College, or private school, her parents could have easily paid the tuition.

Her mother would still have her job, her parents wouldn't have been kicked out of the country club, and had millions of dollars of attorney fees.

Doesn't look like fraud, or crime pays to me.

 

[Cool Cats]

True. And in this case, OJ could have easily gone to some college, where ever, not a fancy school, but probably a normal college, and shown the same sort of Instagram Social Influence from, whatever college, and people would have still paid her and followed her. I don't know, some community College, or private school, her parents could have easily paid the tuition.

Her mother would still have her job, her parents wouldn't have been kicked out of the country club, and had millions of dollars of attorney fees.

Doesn't look like fraud, or crime pays to me.

It doesn't no, unless you enjoy being prosecuted, or enjoy running your whole life from being prosecuted, always looking over your shoulder.

Lori is on an e-mail insulting Arizona State University in the sense, no, its not good enough. It wasn't just about college for her it was about a specific college for the prestige and social status.

Her daughters no doubt could have gone to a thousand other different colleges without any outside help.

I would have some sympathy if this was the only way to get her daughters in college but it wasn't, they had tons and tons of other colleges available.

But those colleges were not good enough.

I am so glad she got thrown out of her Country Club, now she is "not good enough."

...2 Cents...

 

[mickey2942]

These people are unreal. So, Arizona State University isn't "good enough"? The elitism is beyond belief.

A college that her daughter could get into on her own merit, honestly, wasn't good enough. That is such a horrible statement. This family needs so much therapy. Shallowness, lack of insight, where would you even begin with the dysfunctional thinking errors in this family...

 

[neesaki]

These people are unreal. So, Arizona State University isn't "good enough"? The elitism is beyond belief.

A college that her daughter could get into on her own merit, honestly, wasn't good enough. That is such a horrible statement. This family needs so much therapy. Shallowness, lack of insight, where would you even begin with the dysfunctional thinking errors in this family...

100% with you here. That judge got it right when he said she had led a “charmed life”. Yet she still doesn’t get it. These people need a serious reality check, but I think it’s beyond them.

 

[Cool Cats]

100% with you here. That judge got it right when he said she had led a “charmed life”. Yet she still doesn’t get it. These people need a serious reality check, but I think it’s beyond them.

These people are unreal. So, Arizona State University isn't "good enough"? The elitism is beyond belief.

A college that her daughter could get into on her own merit, honestly, wasn't good enough. That is such a horrible statement. This family needs so much therapy. Shallowness, lack of insight, where would you even begin with the dysfunctional thinking errors in this family...

The Judge ripped into them and if what he said doesn't resonate with them - open their eyes - then how about sitting in Federal prison with every inmate and staff member "side-eyeing" you, shaking their heads.

Unlike every other parent sentenced so far in the case, they did not submit letters expressing regret or notes of support from family and friends to the judge by the deadline, although Judge Gorton said he received two letters in support of Loughlin the day of the sentencing.

Judge to Lori:

While Judge Nathaniel Gorton said he believed Loughlin was remorseful, he also castigated her for her “avarice,” for not being satisfied with her already “charmed life” and for seeking “whatever prestige and instant gratification that comes from being able to show off the admissions of your daughters to a preferred university.

“Here you are an admired, successful professional actor, with a long-lasting marriage, two apparently healthy, resilient children, more money than you can possibly need, and a beautiful home in sunny Southern California,” Gorton said. “A fairy tale life. Yet you stand before me, a convicted felon, and for what? For the inexplicable desire to grasp even more.”

He said he was “dumbfounded” by how Loughlin could aid the corruption of the higher education system.

“We can only hope that you will spend the rest of your charmed life, as you’ve said you will, making amends for the system that you have harmed,” he said.

Judge rips Lori Loughlin for 'avarice,' gives her two months

Judge to Mossimo:

The jurist ripped Giannulli for being “motivated by hubris” to think he could cheat the system.

“That’s not the way it works in this country, as you are about to find out,” Gorton said.

The judge told the dad of two, “I see drug dealers and people who commit violent crimes, who have grown up without role models … and did not know better. That’s not so with you, Mr. Giannulli.”

“You were not stealing bread to feed your family,” the judge added before handing down the sentence. “You have no excuse for your crime, and that makes it all the more blameworthy.”

https://pagesix.com/2020/08/21/mossimo-giannulli-sentenced-in-college-admissions-scandal/

 

[neesaki]

The Judge ripped into them and if what he said doesn't resonate with them - open their eyes - then how about sitting in Federal prison with every inmate and staff member "side-eyeing" you, shaking their heads.

Unlike every other parent sentenced so far in the case, they did not submit letters expressing regret or notes of support from family and friends to the judge by the deadline, although Judge Gorton said he received two letters in support of Loughlin the day of the sentencing.

Judge to Lori:

While Judge Nathaniel Gorton said he believed Loughlin was remorseful, he also castigated her for her “avarice,” for not being satisfied with her already “charmed life” and for seeking “whatever prestige and instant gratification that comes from being able to show off the admissions of your daughters to a preferred university.

“Here you are an admired, successful professional actor, with a long-lasting marriage, two apparently healthy, resilient children, more money than you can possibly need, and a beautiful home in sunny Southern California,” Gorton said. “A fairy tale life. Yet you stand before me, a convicted felon, and for what? For the inexplicable desire to grasp even more.”

He said he was “dumbfounded” by how Loughlin could aid the corruption of the higher education system.

“We can only hope that you will spend the rest of your charmed life, as you’ve said you will, making amends for the system that you have harmed,” he said.

Judge rips Lori Loughlin for 'avarice,' gives her two months

Judge to Mossimo:

The jurist ripped Giannulli for being “motivated by hubris” to think he could cheat the system.

“That’s not the way it works in this country, as you are about to find out,” Gorton said.

The judge told the dad of two, “I see drug dealers and people who commit violent crimes, who have grown up without role models … and did not know better. That’s not so with you, Mr. Giannulli.”

“You were not stealing bread to feed your family,” the judge added before handing down the sentence. “You have no excuse for your crime, and that makes it all the more blameworthy.”

https://pagesix.com/2020/08/21/mossimo-giannulli-sentenced-in-college-admissions-scandal/

They really should feel completely humiliated and ashamed. I can’t help but think of Alan in Two and a Half Men, when he had been faking and exaggerating his condition after a very mild heart attack, in order to be pampered, catered to and get attention from family, and more freebies from Walden. When he was found out he fell to the floor faking another heart attack. He lay there on the floor for hours. When Walden asked him when he was going to get up Alan said “ when the shame passes”. Walden said, well that’ll be a long time.

Of course that was comedy and it was totally hilarious, but I’m wondering if the Giannullis’ are feeling even a modicum of that shame. I wouldn’t even show my face in public, probably would more or less become a recluse. Or move to some remote island.

What that judge said was pure poetry.

 

[Cool Cats]

They really should feel completely humiliated and ashamed. I can’t help but think of Alan in Two and a Half Men, when he had been faking and exaggerating his condition after a very mild heart attack, in order to be pampered, catered to and get attention from family, and more freebies from Walden. When he was found out he fell to the floor faking another heart attack. He lay there on the floor for hours. When Walden asked him when he was going to get up Alan said “ when the shame passes”. Walden said, well that’ll be a long time.

Of course that was comedy and it was totally hilarious, but I’m wondering if the Giannullis’ are feeling even a modicum of that shame. I wouldn’t even show my face in public, probably would more or less become a recluse. Or move to some remote island.

What that judge said was pure poetry.

Move to remote island..... √
What that judge said was pure poetry.... √

 

[JerseyGirl]

In other news....

Felicity Huffman Requests Passport Back as Sentence Nears Completion

Felicity Huffman filed new docs, asking a judge to order the return of her passport -- which her lawyers say is currently in the possession of the probation department.

She'll be wrapping up her supervised release in the next few days.

 

[scdiv]

These people are unreal. So, Arizona State University isn't "good enough"? The elitism is beyond belief.

A college that her daughter could get into on her own merit, honestly, wasn't good enough. That is such a horrible statement. This family needs so much therapy. Shallowness, lack of insight, where would you even begin with the dysfunctional thinking errors in this family...

This was all about social status. This was not even about getting a good education/degree from a good school. Lori wanted to be a VIP at USC football games and tailgate and hang with The Who's Who in the club seats or important person's box suite, and hang a USC flag outside her home (she really had one out!), and this whole thing was all about image and her family's image and so she could drop a casual, "Oh Olivia and Bella are at USC..." "We're headed up for the game this weekend" when she was out brunching and at yoga with her Orange County friends. Total social scene, image.

 

[mickey2942]

In other news....

Felicity Huffman Requests Passport Back as Sentence Nears Completion

Felicity Huffman filed new docs, asking a judge to order the return of her passport -- which her lawyers say is currently in the possession of the probation department.

She'll be wrapping up her supervised release in the next few days.

Umm, she really can't go anywhere. Just saying.

 

[mickey2942]

This was all about social status. This was not even about getting a good education/degree from a good school. Lori wanted to be a VIP at USC football games and tailgate and hang with The Who's Who in the club seats or important person's box suite, and hang a USC flag outside her home (she really had one out!), and this whole thing was all about image and her family's image and so she could drop a casual, "Oh Olivia and Bella are at USC..." "We're headed up for the game this weekend" when she was out brunching and at yoga with her Orange County friends. Total social scene, image.

"Orange County Friends". That is an oxymoron. They are not "friends". They are people she hung out with to model clothes, compare nail polish colors. Or whatever those folks do after yoga.

I bet not one has called her, to truly be a "friend". They just want some juicy gossip tidbits.

 

[JudgeJoe]

In other news....

Felicity Huffman Requests Passport Back as Sentence Nears Completion

Felicity Huffman filed new docs, asking a judge to order the return of her passport -- which her lawyers say is currently in the possession of the probation department.

She'll be wrapping up her supervised release in the next few days.

From the link:
“Felicity's attorneys say she's completed all other aspects of her sentence -- including 250 hours of community service...”

Apparently she did her community service here:
“The Teen Project is a nonprofit organization that works with at-risk homeless teenagers involved in sex trafficking and those who suffer from addiction issues.”

The community service aspect of these sentences concerns me. Don’t think these people in need will be helped or comforted being “served” by those that view them as “the little people” or “beneath them”. I would have preferred to see bigger fines & more time behind bars. Imo

Apparently she’s volunteered here before. So... hope they didn’t fudge her hours. Also don’t see this as a punishment since she has an established partnership here. Imo
Felicity Huffman Spotted Doing Community Service Following Prison Time

 

[scdiv]

"Orange County Friends". That is an oxymoron. They are not "friends". They are people she hung out with to model clothes, compare nail polish colors. Or whatever those folks do after yoga.

I bet not one has called her, to truly be a "friend". They just want some juicy gossip tidbits.

There's a fiction book by Jane Stanton Hitchcock called Social Crimes. She calls these people "Amis mondains" - I'm always reminded of this passage as I think it perfectly describes these type of "friendships."

"Social Crimes gently scorns those who thrive on others’ misfortunes and whose self-worth depends on an invitation to the right party: “Amis mondains—‘worldly friends’—were the people I cultivated strictly for the sake of social life,” Jo says, “not because I especially liked them or because they especially liked me, but because we were all players in the same game. . . . We smiled and laughed and gossiped among ourselves at the various festivities we all went to, but—and in New York, nothing counts until the but—we rarely missed a chance to ‘dish’ one another in private.”

 

[JudgeJoe]

There's a fiction book by Jane Stanton Hitchcock called Social Crimes. She calls these people "Amis mondains" - I'm always reminded of this passage as I think it perfectly describes these type of "friendships."

"Social Crimes gently scorns those who thrive on others’ misfortunes and whose self-worth depends on an invitation to the right party: “Amis mondains—‘worldly friends’—were the people I cultivated strictly for the sake of social life,” Jo says, “not because I especially liked them or because they especially liked me, but because we were all players in the same game. . . . We smiled and laughed and gossiped among ourselves at the various festivities we all went to, but—and in New York, nothing counts until the but—we rarely missed a chance to ‘dish’ one another in private.”

Ew. Sounds like high school prolonged to a painful degree.

Interested to read the book though!

 

[Luna20]

They really should feel completely humiliated and ashamed. I can’t help but think of Alan in Two and a Half Men, when he had been faking and exaggerating his condition after a very mild heart attack, in order to be pampered, catered to and get attention from family, and more freebies from Walden. When he was found out he fell to the floor faking another heart attack. He lay there on the floor for hours. When Walden asked him when he was going to get up Alan said “ when the shame passes”. Walden said, well that’ll be a long time.

Of course that was comedy and it was totally hilarious, but I’m wondering if the Giannullis’ are feeling even a modicum of that shame. I wouldn’t even show my face in public, probably would more or less become a recluse. Or move to some remote island.

What that judge said was pure poetry.

Perfect timing to benefit from wearing a mask, to hide behind.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Lori Loughlin is 'Mentally Preparing' for Her Jail Sentence: 'She'll Clench Her Jaw and Do Her Time'

What Lori Loughlin Can Expect In Prison at Victorville

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Lori Loughlin begins 2-month prison sentence in college admissions scandal

The actress paid $500,000 to help her two daughters get into college. Her husband has also been sentenced in the scheme.

Actress Lori Loughlin reported to a federal prison in Northern California on Friday to start a two-month sentence for her role in a massive college admissions cheating scandal, according to officials at the prison and the federal prosecutor’s office.

The “Full House” star surrendered to authorities at the Federal Correctional Institution in Dublin, California, about 40 miles east of San Francisco. She was early; the judge who sentenced her ordered her to report to prison on November 19.

It is the same federal lockup where “Desperate Housewives” actress Felicity Huffman served her 11 days last October. Huffman was in general population and had to follow all the rules, including a 5 a.m. wakeup call, a uniform of khaki pants and a brown t-shirt, and five inmate roll calls per day. Loughlin will be expected to follow the same rules as set forth by the Bureau of Prisons...

 

[BeachSky]

TIME is the wisest councilor of all.
May she learn SOMETHING .

 

[scdiv]

Lori Loughlin officially begins sentence at California federal prison

https://pagesix.com/2020/10/30/lori-loughlin-officially-locked-up-at-california-federal-prison/

 

[mickey2942]

TIME is the wisest councilor of all.
May she learn SOMETHING .

People like this never learn anything. Two months is nothing. She expects to be out before Christmas. She will spend her time, ruminating over who's to blame for her circumstances, from the guy who set it up, the school counselor, the judge, the ineffective attorneys...everyone is to blame, but Lori!

Good, she is going to Dublin. No yoga classes. Looks like work, and time for self reflection. Work some more. She can knit at night.