NC NC - Asha Degree, 9, Shelby, 14 Feb 2000

[SAMS]

It’s possible that the car was rented

It had a passenger

 

[apabld]

Feb 14, 2020
FBI – Federal Bureau of Investigation

According to the video, the book and concert shirt were found in her bag? Interesting.

 

[Feme98]

It had a passenger

But does it mean the car was rented? The fact that they said that it was occupied twice sounds odd to me

 

[T rex]

According to the video, the book and concert shirt were found in her bag? Interesting.

I'm not sure about that. I mean they could've been but why would LE wait all those years to ask the public about them and why wouldn't they have checked the library records back then? Yea I'm not sure about that.

 

[SAMS]

But does it mean the car was rented? The fact that they said that it was occupied twice sounds odd to me

Rented? I’m not getting what your asking. They said occupied twice meaning there was a passenger.

 

[SAMS]

FBI: Asha Degree may have gotten into a dark green car on night of disappearance



Very weird wording, I know.....


“This vehicle is right now considered a vehicle of interest, and it was occupied two times on the day of her disappearance," Cleveland County Sheriff Alan Norman said. "It had been discovered by leg work with by the sheriff office investigators along with the federal government."

 

[dotr]

According to the video, the book and concert shirt were found in her bag? Interesting.

rbbm.
New items of interest in Asha Degree case
''Investigators ask that anyone who had the book or shirt or knows anyone who had those items around the time of Asha’s disappearance to call them.

Cleveland County Sheriff Alan Norman says he could not go into detail as to why the items are significant, but he said they are a vital part of the investigation.''

''More than a year after her disappearance, the child’s book bag was found buried beside the same road but farther north in Burke County.''

 

[T rex]

rbbm.
New items of interest in Asha Degree case
''Investigators ask that anyone who had the book or shirt or knows anyone who had those items around the time of Asha’s disappearance to call them.

Cleveland County Sheriff Alan Norman says he could not go into detail as to why the items are significant, but he said they are a vital part of the investigation.''

''More than a year after her disappearance, the child’s book bag was found buried beside the same road but farther north in Burke County.''

So do you think these items were in the bag? They may have been but I just can't wrap my head around why they would wait so long. People's memories fade over time. I wish they would just come out and tell us.

 

[Eireboy]

The police have done a bad job on this case. 20 years later they know as much now as they did in the first 20 days of the investigation. There are so many theories on what might have happened to Asha. I think that some of the thinking into this case has gone way off track. Personally I believe the slumber party she was at the night before she went missing is where many answers to this case will be found. For some reason not many people are talking about the Slumber party

 

[Eireboy]

They said at the Valentines Day press conference that the book and the t-shirt were found in her bag in 2001. I can only assume the only reason why they released the info about them a couple of years ago is cause they wanted the public to think they were making progress on the case when in reality they couldn’t find an Elephant in a Grocery store. They are extremely incompetent

 

[Eireboy]

I don’t believe that this sighting ever occurred. The police said that they discovered it in the files years later. How could a tip like that be overlooked. If credible this tip would be the biggest clue they have in the whole case. Just one of many inconsistencies in the police investigation

 

[dotr]

February 21 2020
VIDEO

Artist who created age progression ...
wbtv.com
Artist who created age progression photo of missing Asha Degree explains process
''How can somebody predict what a child would look like as an adult, though? McNally says it requires some artistry, data, and a lot of collaboration.

In Asha’s case, her family was able to provide high quality photos for McNally to work with. But these weren’t just photos of Asha. They were photos of her close relatives.

“We can see the facial features she had in common with both parents. We even had a photo of her brother that we could pull from so there was a lot to use,” McNally says.

Forensic artists use those images of close relatives as clues for how a child’s face will develop.

“We've been trained as forensic anthropologists for how different children of different ancestries grow and develop over time,” he says. “The actual creation of the image is done using Adobe Photoshop: A combination of photo compositing of the elements we receive from families and from law enforcement, and then some digital painting.”

That final rendering can be critical.

“We've had actual examples where somebody saw our age progression, called our center, and that tip is what recovered that child,” he says.

The NCMEC has produced about 7,000 age-progression photos since 1989. About 1,700 children have been found because of them.''

 

[Eireboy]

Absolutely, anything is possible was just giving the reasons i don't personally believe she was being abused by anyone in her immediate family. My theory is she was groomed by a coach, teacher, neighbour, family friend, extended family member or someone at her church. This person enticed her with money (the few dollars she had) and promises of a better life (monetary wise), he got her to trust him with the picture of the little girl he claimed was his daughter and convinced her to leave in the middle of the night so they could get a head start then sadly he harmed her.

Where is Asha Degree? • Morbidology
"One of the many leads in the case came when Barron Ramsey, a Mecklenburg County Jail inmate who went to school with Asha’s mother, made a detailed confession. He claimed that he and another Cleveland County man were heading back to Shelby on rural N.C. 18 in the early morning hours of Asha’s disappearance. He said that the other man, who was driving, accidentally ran Asha over. He said the girl was still alive when the driver put her in the back of the pickup. Ramsey said the driver dropped him home and left with the girl. A couple of days later, Ramsey said he and the driver went to Moss Lake near Kings Mountain where they dumped the now-deceased girl’s body. Ramsey was in jail on charges he robbed a Bessemer City bank. He said that he was looking for a deal in return for his confession in the death of Asha"

A 1973 Lincoln Mark IV, similar to the one Asha was seen climbing into.

This guy was lying and wasting police time in order to benefit himself. If his story is true it still doesn’t explain why Asha left her home at that time and during a storm

 

[Eireboy]

Now plea deal does make sense. Well, yes, there are obviously things they keep close to the vest, especially in a case like this. Wonder when the green car came into the picture? Was it from a new tip or something they felt they shouldn't release until later, when they did. Same with the NKOTB shirt & Dr. Suess book. MOO

How come the police have never released a photo of her bag. If people saw the bag it might jog their memory and maybe something will click

 

[Eireboy]

IMO if she was walking south, this chimes in with the theory that she was going into town to meet with someone. I dont think she wouldve been headed toward school. Weren't the items in the shed verified by her parents to be hers? Like 98% or something? And what exactly does that even mean really? Which ones were hers and which weren't? (Not asking, just realizing how simple this could be made by stating exactly what items were Ashas.)
Whoever harmed or took Asha buried the bag. IMO they did not want it found, they went to great lengths to hide it miles away and in the middle of nowhere. My theory changes almost daily with this case. I lean toward her being groomed and going to meet said groomer. The $, the packing essential items, the heading into Shelby, the picture of the unidentified girl....then I also believe she was simply running away. She was distraught over the game, that she felt responsible for losing by fouling out at the last minute. Iquilla mentioned how much it bothered her throughout the weekend. She cant sleep bc she napped the night before and was probably caught up on her sleep. The game is still on her mind and shes tossing and turning. Then she decides shes gonna run away, packs a bag, and leaves. She has no idea that someone is lurking...crime of opportunity. But then come the questions.
If she walked out to "run away", like you said, why wouldnt she take a coat/jacket? It was a cold, rainy night in February. Where were their jackets kept? Were they in a place that she felt she couldnt get to without waking up her parents? How come noone heard her leave the house, yet OBryant overheard her tossing and possibly going to the bathroom? Were the bedrooms in the back of the townhome? They didn't own a computer, no cell phone for Asha. How did someone have the opportunity to groom her? When? She spent alot of time with relatives it seems, especially that weekend and also church. Plenty of opportunity there but who?
You have lived in this area, you know how dark and scary that road is at night. We have heard how Asha was afraid of dogs. Why would she go out and take that chance? What was promised to her or where was she headed to that it was worth the risk? I normally dont put much faith into witnesses, but this case is different. These witnesses seem to have really seen her, down to the clothing, bookbag and piggy tails.
And what is with the green car that LE are looking for info regarding? How did that come into play and did someone tell her to meet them at the shed? MOO

If what I have read is true and Asha really did go to a slumber party at her Cousin’s house on the Saturday night, this makes me believe that if she planned on meeting someone then that person was in the house where the slumber party was. This would have been the perfect opportunity for the person to co-ordinate the details. This means that it would have to be someone she knew, a family member or family friend. This could also be a link to the New Kids on the Block Nightgown that was found in her back

 

[SAMS]

Bump for Asha....

 

[SAMS]

I am planning a new podcast with the first episode (or maybe the first few, depending on length) spotlighting Asha's case. If interested in joining me as a live guest please DM me. Date TBD.
Praying for you Asha. MOO

 

[Nadal]

I am planning a new podcast with the first episode (or maybe the first few, depending on length) spotlighting Asha's case. If interested in joining me as a live guest please DM me. Date TBD.
Praying for you Asha. MOO

Are you going to try and contact anyone involved with the case or just go over the case? I've always felt a podcast or longform article on Asha with interviews of those involved could unearth something at least by bringing attention to it. Of course i don't want the family or investigators or anything being harrassed, you just never know they may be willing to do something like this considering it's been over 20 years now and while it's popular on the internet it's not that known by the general public.

 

[SAMS]

"Asha stayed over at cousin Catina's house Sat. night. Were there any male family members hanging around? The older cousin was 15. Did Asha look up to these girls and want to be "grown" and venture out on her own?"

This is a quote from one of my previous posts on this thread. It just came to me. Which direction did her older cousin live? Could Asha have been wanting to go back to her cousins house? Could they have planned something and Catina has kept it her secret for all of these years over guilt? MOO

 

[SAMS]

Are you going to try and contact anyone involved with the case or just go over the case? I've always felt a podcast or longform article on Asha with interviews of those involved could unearth something at least by bringing attention to it. Of course i don't want the family or investigators or anything being harrassed, you just never know they may be willing to do something like this considering it's been over 20 years now and while it's popular on the internet it's not that known by the general public.

Yes, @Nadal . I plan to interview family members and associates that are willing in all of the cases that I feature. I agree with you completely, to get answers you really need to have insight from the insiders in the case and this case deserves the public's attention. And this case has so much information, possible interviewees. MOO, IMO