NC - Fort Bragg Spc. Enrique Roman-Martinez, 21, Cape Lookout, 23 May 2020 *severed head washed ashore*

  • #141
Its a waiting game now because no information will be released.

One of the most critical aspect of any case is the suspects and their alibi. An alibi is needed for exclusion.

al·i·bi
noun
noun: alibi; plural noun: alibis
a claim or piece of evidence that one was elsewhere when an act, typically a criminal one, is alleged to have taken place.
"she has an alibi for the whole of yesterday evening"

If you refer to the 911 Call. The "911 Caller" was trying to establish a 12:03 alibi for the entire group.

In any outing civilian or military there is an organizer. This person is the host in the civilian world or
team lead in the military world. The excursion had a Team Lead and its ranks and file.
ERM was excluded from that Rank and file at some point namely 12:03.

82 Airborne perform search and rescue. So a few of the "friends" know how to conduct a search "mission".
From 12:03 to the "We woke up. He was not here." time point would trigger a "rescue" effort In that ERM
would have been gone for 5 hours minimum.

The time line can be broken into 5 time frames.
  1. 12:03 Time the group went to Sleep
  2. Time the group woke up
  3. Time before the Ranger encounter
  4. Time After the Ranger encounter
  5. Time of reporting
ERM was reported missing around 7 p.m. on May 23rd.

That is a large window of time.....
Remember the partial remains took a few days to surface.....

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There is a lot of footwork involved. So its going to be quiet
for a while.
 
  • #142
Its a waiting game now because no information will be released.

One of the most critical aspect of any case is the suspects and their alibi. An alibi is needed for exclusion.

al·i·bi
noun
noun: alibi; plural noun: alibis
a claim or piece of evidence that one was elsewhere when an act, typically a criminal one, is alleged to have taken place.
"she has an alibi for the whole of yesterday evening"

If you refer to the 911 Call. The "911 Caller" was trying to establish a 12:03 alibi for the entire group.

In any outing civilian or military there is an organizer. This person is the host in the civilian world or
team lead in the military world. The excursion had a Team Lead and its ranks and file.
ERM was excluded from that Rank and file at some point namely 12:03.

82 Airborne perform search and rescue. So a few of the "friends" know how to conduct a search "mission".
From 12:03 to the "We woke up. He was not here." time point would trigger a "rescue" effort In that ERM
would have been gone for 5 hours minimum.

The time line can be broken into 5 time frames.
  1. 12:03 Time the group went to Sleep
  2. Time the group woke up
  3. Time before the Ranger encounter
  4. Time After the Ranger encounter
  5. Time of reporting
ERM was reported missing around 7 p.m. on May 23rd.

That is a large window of time.....
Remember the partial remains took a few days to surface.....

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There is a lot of footwork involved. So its going to be quiet
for a while.
Enrique Roman Martinez died as a result of the whole jeep/ blue truck horseplay incident. That's the last time his buddies saw him alive. The whole tent blew over, we helped him set it up again and that's the last time we saw him was a big lie. MHO, Nothing else makes sense.
 
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  • #143
Enrique Roman Martinez died as a result of the whole jeep/ blue trick horseplay incident. That's the last time his buddies saw him alive. The whole tent blew over, we helped him set it up again and that's the last time we saw him was a big lie. MHO, Nothing else makes sense.
Also, someone in that group took his wallet and cell phone after the vehicle accident/incident and put them in the tent to make it appear he vanished after midnight.
 
  • #144
Remember a lie is based on the truth........so look within the lie to find the truth.

The "Midnight" time point avoidance.

The "911 Caller" wanted to make a distinction from Midnight. As it covers a varying range of time. If the jeep/blue truck event
occurred at 12:15 then the group has an alibi. Midnight is open ended therefore needs to be avoided. Using 12:03 no explanation is needed.

False Alibi

The jeep/blue truck could be a rouse to provide cover for the actual event/crime. So, there could have been a jeep/blue truck scenario but
it does not mean ERM was one of the participants. Lies are diversion or deception of the truth.

The jeep/blue truck could be a false alibi for ERM. In this case giving the appearance he was some where he was not.

Lies are made up on the fly and cannot bring in all of the factors in life in a short amount of time.
 
  • #145
Also, someone in that group took his wallet and cell phone after the vehicle accident/incident and put them in the tent to make it appear he vanished after midnight.
I believe that’s could very well have happened..they took the wallet & phone and put it in the tent themselves. It’s possible.
 
  • #146
Remember a lie is based on the truth........so look within the lie to find the truth.

The "Midnight" time point avoidance.

The "911 Caller" wanted to make a distinction from Midnight. As it covers a varying range of time. If the jeep/blue truck event
occurred at 12:15 then the group has an alibi. Midnight is open ended therefore needs to be avoided. Using 12:03 no explanation is needed.

False Alibi

The jeep/blue truck could be a rouse to provide cover for the actual event/crime. So, there could have been a jeep/blue truck scenario but
it does not mean ERM was one of the participants. Lies are diversion or deception of the truth.

The jeep/blue truck could be a false alibi for ERM. In this case giving the appearance he was some where he was not.

Lies are made up on the fly and cannot bring in all of the factors in life in a short amount of time.
IMO and just based on what’s been shared, if there was an incident with the vehicles, it did not happen around midnight.

Merely my opinion, but I do believe ERM is associated with at least the white Jeep somehow. If you look at the photo provided in his missing info/articles it appears he is standing on the outside of a white Jeep.
 
  • #147
Remember a lie is based on the truth........so look within the lie to find the truth.

The "Midnight" time point avoidance.

The "911 Caller" wanted to make a distinction from Midnight. As it covers a varying range of time. If the jeep/blue truck event
occurred at 12:15 then the group has an alibi. Midnight is open ended therefore needs to be avoided. Using 12:03 no explanation is needed.

False Alibi

The jeep/blue truck could be a rouse to provide cover for the actual event/crime. So, there could have been a jeep/blue truck scenario but
it does not mean ERM was one of the participants. Lies are diversion or deception of the truth.

The jeep/blue truck could be a false alibi for ERM. In this case giving the appearance he was some where he was not.

Lies are made up on the fly and cannot bring in all of the factors in life in a short amount of time.
Also, as far as I know by reading articles, the group didn’t provide the Jeep & truck alibi; it was brought to LE’s attention by others.
 
  • #148
Remains of Missing 82nd Airborne Paratrooper Found – Reward Offered :: WRAL.com
Army to help in search for soldier missing since Saturday
Search continues for soldier missing from Cape Lookout

911 call for Fort Bragg missing soldier Enrique Martinez released

Maps - Cape Lookout National Seashore (U.S. National Park Service)

To Note
Based on links above:
•Friday, May 22: EM & 7 other soldiers arrived by ferry
•set up camp near mile 46 which is near the south end of the island (see map from link)
•around 12am: EM’s tent was knocked over due to wind; the group helped put it back up
•the group states this is the last time they saw him; he was wearing blue shorts & no shirt
•Sat May 23, morning: Group wakes up to find EM gone, leaving all his belongings behind (phone & wallet)
•Sat May 23, around 2:30pm: Rangers interact with the group (minus EM) about the manner of their vehicles parked. No mention of EM missing.
•Sat May 23, around 7:30pm: 911 call is made reporting EM missing; 17 hours have passed since last seen
•Officials requested that anyone seeing a Jeep followed by a truck traveling at a high rate of speed with two men hanging out the side (Fri or Sat) to contact LE.
•May 29: Partial remains confirmed to be EM was found near Cape Lookout National Seashore.


Questions I have:
•What time did the group come over with their vehicles on the ferry?
•Were the vehicles they group brought match the Jeep and truck referenced by officials? If not, can’t they look at video footage or paperwork (not sure how ferry works) to see who the two vehicles belong to?
•Why didn’t the group say anything to the rangers Sat afternoon when they were approached about their vehicle parking?
•What about his glasses? LE said his wallet & phone were left behind. Was he wearing them?
•Who took the picture of EM standing on the side of the vehicle?

Based on the linked info above, several things come to mind. Mere speculation; merely my opinion but I’m not sure what the rules are for posting it.

Its a waiting game now because no information will be released.

One of the most critical aspect of any case is the suspects and their alibi. An alibi is needed for exclusion.

al·i·bi
noun
noun: alibi; plural noun: alibis
a claim or piece of evidence that one was elsewhere when an act, typically a criminal one, is alleged to have taken place.
"she has an alibi for the whole of yesterday evening"

If you refer to the 911 Call. The "911 Caller" was trying to establish a 12:03 alibi for the entire group.

In any outing civilian or military there is an organizer. This person is the host in the civilian world or
team lead in the military world. The excursion had a Team Lead and its ranks and file.
ERM was excluded from that Rank and file at some point namely 12:03.

82 Airborne perform search and rescue. So a few of the "friends" know how to conduct a search "mission".
From 12:03 to the "We woke up. He was not here." time point would trigger a "rescue" effort In that ERM
would have been gone for 5 hours minimum.

The time line can be broken into 5 time frames.
  1. 12:03 Time the group went to Sleep
  2. Time the group woke up
  3. Time before the Ranger encounter
  4. Time After the Ranger encounter
  5. Time of reporting
ERM was reported missing around 7 p.m. on May 23rd.

That is a large window of time.....
Remember the partial remains took a few days to surface.....

Cape Lookout Rentals | Island Express Ferry Service LLC
Standup-Paddleboard-Rentals-image-1.jpg


There is a lot of footwork involved. So its going to be quiet
for a while.

1. stated last time seen 12:03
2. Time group woke up (I know when 911 caller awoke, but don’t think I can share)
3. Time before Ranger Encounter: Wake up time until 2:30pm
4.Time after Ranger Encounter: 2:30-7:30pm=5 hour window
 
  • #149
IMO and just based on what’s been shared, if there was an incident with the vehicles, it did not happen around midnight.

Merely my opinion, but I do believe ERM is associated with at least the white Jeep somehow. If you look at the photo provided in his missing info/articles it appears he is standing on the outside of a white Jeep.
If the jeep incident did happen which is possible, it most likely happened on Friday.
 
  • #150
If the jeep incident did happen which is possible, it most likely happened on Friday.
Or Saturday morning before the 2:30 pm meeting with the Ranger
 
  • #151
The time point of the jeep incident is unknown to us. Because the time point is withheld one can only assume it is a critical factor to the
investigation.

Based on the account of "the group" ERM walked away from his friends very early on Saturday morning. Once again
this is a opened time frame.

Because they were on an island with ferry access only, the Vehicles can be identified.

Jeep incident can be only 1 of 4 possibilities.

  1. Actual Event
  2. Actual Event - Non Associated Event
  3. Staged Event
  4. Fabricated Event
Actual Event
If the Jeep incident is the cause of ERM's death then it occurred after Midnight on the morning of the 23 May 2020
The group is not associated or implicated in the death as they were not witness to it and were asleep.
It is not something that could not be forgotten or omitted from their reporting to the Rangers. So the group is not involved.
Due to the partial remains there are two portion of the body. Each having its own account. The dental portion washed
ashore and the other not found.

Actual Event - Non Associated Event
If the Jeep incident is a Non Associated event then it becomes coincidental and disregarded.

Staged Event
If the Jeep incident is a staged event then it is used for a cover up. This could be a cause of death scenario.
This point to deception which opens other avenues to the case. The driver involved are the culprits.

Fabricated Event

If the Jeep incident is a fabricated then it has no use and becomes unsubstantiated.

If the image of ERM is that of the Jeep in question then Option 1,2 and 4 are eliminated.

The bottom line is a guy can die but he cannot dismember himself.
 
  • #152
Army offering $25K reward in case of murdered Fort Bragg paratrooper from Chino

Maj. Gen. Christopher Donahue issued this statement:

"Spc. Enrique Roman-Martinez was a soldier and a valued member of our team. Our condolences remain with his family, friends, and fellow Paratroopers. My family's thoughts - and the thoughts of the leadership of the 82nd Airborne Division - are focused on Enrique's family and battle buddies as we mourn together. Enrique volunteered to serve the nation and as a Paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne Division.

"Over Memorial Day weekend we lost Enrique to a senseless act of violence. We are doing everything we can to support his family and find justice for Enrique. I've personally spoken with his family to assure them that we will not stop in our pursuit to bring those responsible to justice. The U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command has offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to the apprehension and conviction of the person(s) responsible for the homicide. I encourage anyone with information related to this case, regardless of how small, to contact the Fort Bragg CID Office."
 
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Cape Lookout National Seashore

May 29 post
The post asked anyone who may have seen the two vehicles that weekend to contact rangers. At the bottom of the post it included the following:
For everyone asking, yes we know the vehicles we there; we are trying to determine exactly where on the island and specific times.
 
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  • #159
Question Time!

It has been stated that the 911 call concerning ERM has been released. I’ve posted two links which include parts of the call. (Note: they share different parts of the call)

Has anyone came across a verified source that has shared the entire 911 call?
•I’m aware the entire call has been released & I’ve recently listened to it. However, this media source isn’t able to be linked on WS.
•Is there a way of finding a 911 call once it has been released to the public?

I ask this because after listening to it, I found it to be very informative of course!
 
  • #160
I have not been able to find it. Since a 911 call is a public document, I don't think you need to link to a news source. But how else would anyone know that it's authentic?
 

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