Found Deceased NC - Hania Noelia Aguilar, 13, abducted, Lumberton, 5 Nov 2018

[OTPTarheel2018]

There’s a park- Northeast Park- just north of the mobile home park. Kidnapper could have been hanging out there.

Walmart SuperCenter is located at 5070 Fayetteville Rd, Lumberton, visible from I- 95. 9 minutes to mobile home park in a car, 70 minutes walking.

JMO

 

[margarita25]

There’s a park- Northeast Park- just north of the mobile home park. Kidnapper could have been hanging out there.

Walmart SuperCenter is located at 5070 Fayetteville Rd, Lumberton, visible from I- 95. 9 minutes to mobile home park in a car, 70 minutes walking.

JMO

OTPTarHeel, could you please be kind as to bring forward your map?

What remote locations would have visibility on the driveway/house, any?

Again this window of opportunity is nagging hard...

 

[OTPTarheel2018]

“ROBESON COUNTY, NC (WMBF) - Imagine trying to raise your children in a community where, statistically, 123 young people per 100,000 die by violence every year. That's the reality in Robeson County, according to researchers at the University of North Carolina. It's a youth death rate that's more than double the rest of the state's rate. And we learned it's just the tip of the iceberg for Robeson County.“

And those numbers are from 2015.
From WMBF

https://www.google.com/amp/www.wmbf...robeson-county-a-deadly-county?outputType=amp

JMO

 

[Mercedes]

Yay - they got a photo! Any indication on WHERE and when this video was taken??

At least there is some movement on the case.

jmo

Delete.

 

[EGirl]

“...it was still dark outside...”
Welcome to Daylight Savings Time.

?? Doesn't it actually gets lighter earlier in the morning now and darker earlier in the evening.

 

[margarita25]

“ROBESON COUNTY, NC (WMBF) - Imagine trying to raise your children in a community where, statistically, 123 young people per 100,000 die by violence every year. That's the reality in Robeson County, according to researchers at the University of North Carolina. It's a youth death rate that's more than double the rest of the state's rate. And we learned it's just the tip of the iceberg for Robeson County.“

And those numbers are from 2015.
From WMBF

https://www.google.com/amp/www.wmbf...robeson-county-a-deadly-county?outputType=amp

JMO

Robeson County—same as Sara Graham? Not sure iirc. County rings a bell though.

NC - NC - Sara Graham, 18, Fairmont, 4 February 2015 - #1

:looking it up:

And distance.

ETA:

17 min (10.8 mi)
via NC-41 N

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Don’t tell me she worked at the same Walmart OTPTarHeel just mentioned? It must be another Walmart...surely...

Quote for reference:

There’s a park- Northeast Park- just north of the mobile home park. Kidnapper could have been hanging out there.

Walmart SuperCenter is located at 5070 Fayetteville Rd, Lumberton, visible from I- 95. 9 minutes to mobile home park in a car, 70 minutes walking.

JMO

Not saying there’s a connection. Especially since Sara’s step mom is a POI in her case (current status I wonder?). Anyway. 10.8 miles is close.

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ETA: It appears Sara worked at the Walmart in Pembroke:

“....Wednesday to drive to her job at a Walmart in nearby Pembroke.”
(Source: CBS)

-I was going to say wow what a coincidence. That would have been trippy.

 

[sleuther0192837465]

What all do we know about HANIA.

What was her schedule and what were her interests, activities.

We will see how this pans out, but right now I’m going to guess this is noooot a random abduction.

This is a very risky prediction in which if I’m wrong it’s going to be quite embarrassing, but that’s ok, this is the only way to test myself I suppose—There is a fabulous poster yesterday who so gracefully admitted she was wrong so anyway just saying, sometimes we might not want to post something for fear of being wrong and I don’t want it to be that way because right now time is of essence and bouncing stuff off each other is all we’ve got. It’s not about being right or wrong , it’s about finding this child. And there is a good group here, some of the members I most respect.

Now if this IS a random abduction, it would have be someone out there just wandering around who happened to come across her? He’d have to be super drugged out or something, I don’t know, something is not fitting here for me. We will see what today’s PC says.

Also, first on list is to look at this map to really look st this “coming out of nowhere” with no vehicle in sight.

Hinky. It’s got to be someone she knows or that is known to her family or at least that has been in a position to observe her?

Would someone hang around the neighborhood waiting for a child to come out? He’d have to be right there? Idk...

This is so odd for me because usually I’m quick to lean towards random...

Extremely well said & very thoughtful & kind to everyone here! Thank you for this!!
IMO It was either someone that targeted this family, for reasons unknown (NOT BLAMING Hania or her family at all) OR it was someone who resided in the trailer park/visited someone in the trailer park & had been watching, waiting for the chance to grab a child.
Praying continuously Hania will be found safe & brought home to her loving family
MOO
Edited: spelling

 

[razzledazzle]

?? Doesn't it actually gets lighter earlier in the morning now and darker earlier in the evening.

Mon, Nov 5 6:41:01 am Sunrise

I think the call to 911 was at 6:54am, after having to go to a neighbors house to call, so I think it would still be fairly dark outside. It was also cloudy and rainy Monday morning. I live about an hour from there.

Sunrise and sunset times in Lumberton, NC

 

[Mercedes]

?? Doesn't it actually gets lighter earlier in the morning now and darker earlier in the evening.

No, because you set your clock back, you get up 1 hour earlier when it is still dark outside.

 

[Mercedes]

SUV wanted in Lumberton teen's abducted spotted

It would be interesting if LE could gather enough surveillance video to track that vehicle.

 

[Mercedes]

Additionally from your link:

“Authorities are asking anyone with surveillance systems set up near Hania's Lumberton home on Elizabethtown Road to please save those videos and contact the tip line immediately. That number is 910-272-5781. Even if you don't see the SUV on that video, the FBI asks that you still contact them, as it still may contain important information. “

IMO, not just near her home.

 

[margarita25]

No, because you set your clocks back, you get up 1 hour earlier when it is still dark outside.

“Spring Forward, Fall Back.”

 

[WiseOwl]

( @MassGuy and everyone else. Get your arses in here, we need more folks in this thread!

I want to hear your thoughts MG on all this—this window of opportunity is bugging me. And not using his own vehicle...)

Where did he come from!?

I think it would be a good idea for LE to check any CCTV coverage from anywhere near the property to see if this perp had been hanging around. Not just on the morning in question but also on previous days to see if anyone suspicious had been walking past the property.

 

[margarita25]

I think it would be a good idea for LE to check any CCTV coverage from anywhere near the property to see if this perp had been hanging around. Not just on the morning in question but also on previous days to see if anyone suspicious had been walking past the property.

Absolutely...good thought.

 

[margarita25]

Does anyone know off hand if this a model of vehicle that lets the driver control automatic windows and can keep the passenger from lowering the window and keeps doors locked?

Right now I think he is driving and she may be an unwilling passenger. I can almost make out someone up against the window if I am seeing things right. Its all blurry but something seems there in passenger window.

Gosh this is so terrifying to think about. I hope she can be found safe.

( @carbuff )

 

[margarita25]

Worth a read imo as we consider potential profile/MO associated with Hania’s abductor:

“The study authors conducted semi-structured interviews with 28 active carjackers in St. Louis, Missouri, and based on these interviews concluded that "the decision to commit a carjacking stems most directly from a situated interaction between particular sorts of perceived opportunities and particular sorts of perceived needs and desires, this decision is activated, mediated, and shaped by participation in urban street culture."[4]”

Carjacking - Wikipedia

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“The Police Department has formed a task force with the FBI to investigate the rise in carjackings, many of which are committed by juvenile gang members at the direction of adult gang members, police Superintendent Eddie Johnson has said.

But what’s the reason for the sudden increase?

“We constantly look at it, but to just give you a simple answer is difficult,” Johnson said in a recent interview from his 5th floor office at police headquarters. “Sometimes you can’t predict what these (carjackers) are going to do and how they’re going to do it.”“

Carjackings skyrocket in Chicago in 2017 — to highest level in at least 10 years

 

[Nana2Luke]

From looking at the photo of the car they do have it looks to be in the center lane and there is at least another lane of traffic. So IMO it appears someone in another vehicle took the photo of her.

I hate to think this but I think maybe someone driving along saw her trying to get help from them so they snapped a photo of their vehicle. I dont see how else this photo would have been taken from that position.
See the white lines at bottom showing the other lane.

FB releases photo of SUV connected to kidnapped Lumberton teen

The surveillance video captured the SUV near Hania's home the day of her kidnapping....

SUV wanted in Lumberton teen's abducted spotted

 

[margarita25]

(Googling “attempted abductions”...there are always tons in other cases which usually turn out to be unrelated. But one would be surprised how often it happens. Kind of like the RSO maps that usually light up like Christmas trees.)

 

[margarita25]

So we’ve got two active AA’s out on two 13 year olds. Not good.

 

[Gardener1850]

WBTW News 13 was live.
7 minutes ago ·

HAPPENING NOW: Lumberton police give update on kidnapping of 13-year-old Hania Aguilar.

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Did anyone else notice at about 1:18 into the press conference a vehicle similar to the one they are looking for drove by? (see screenshot attached)
I'm not saying it's the vehicle, but it got me wondering how common is that specific make/model?
Are they a commonly stolen vehicle?

Actual vehicle:

2002/2003 Ford Expedition with a South Carolina license plate, NWS-984.

Amber Alert: Picture shows SUV stolen during teen's abduction

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