GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #1

[kittythehare]

so he paid $400 bail for the 2 charges..
I wonder under what grounds others became 'dismissed'
cut price bailbonds all round.
Is this specific to the states in which the crimes were committed?

how come less serious charges are prosecuted and bail set at massively higher rates in different states?

 

[stmarysmead]

so he paid $400 bail for the 2 charges..
I wonder under what grounds others became 'dismissed'
cut price bailbonds all round.
Is this specific to the states in which the crimes were committed?

how come less serious charges are prosecuted and bail set at massively higher rates in different states?

An attorney could give you a more complete answer, but the simplest one is this: there are guidelines but within those guidelines, judges have discretion. Some judges, within the same county and state can vary widely in temperament, being tough or lenient.


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[Marshleon]

'How are you' (re translation)...sorry I'm only noticing that this was
already answered!

 

[stephanddoody]

Is Robert Earnest Martens, MM's older brother?

yes mm older brother husband of elynette . The 2 younger brothers don't appear to say much. The youngest one did share a lot at the start but hasn't in a while as far as I know

 

[stmarysmead]

This is a murder investigation, not a popularity contest.

But this is a murder investigation that is centered in part on the reputation and character of the deceased. It will also be a trial where the credibility of the accused is front and center.

The fact that Jason was held in high esteem and that his family was also, does not categorically prove he was not an abuser. But the testimony of those who knew the man, his family and his first wife's family...is the only voice this dead man has!

The reaction of the community says that this family is respected and credible, in my opinion. It's not a popularity contest but it is a contest between two contradicting descriptions of a dead man. Those who knew him...knew a gentle man who never raised his hand to a woman.

Their community seems to agree.

Molly, however, has a history, that even here on this Board, shows a disregard for the truth. In addition, the autopsy does not fit her account of the murder or the overkill that was visited upon Jason.

The reaction of the community to her attempt to interrupt the adjustment of the children to their new home, may be a precursor to the way a jury will react to Molly as well.

I appreciated the information.

My opinion only.


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[stephanddoody]

But this is a murder investigation that is centered in part on the reputation and character of the deceased. It will also be a trial where the credibility of the accused is front and center.

The fact that Jason was held in high esteem and that his family was also, does not categorically prove he was not an abuser. But the testimony of those who knew the man, his family and his first wife's family...is the only voice this dead man has!

The reaction of the community says that this family is respected and credible, in my opinion. It's not a popularity contest but it is a contest between two contradicting descriptions of a dead man. Those who knew him...knew a gentle man who never raised his hand to a woman.

Their community seems to agree.

Molly, however, has a history, that even here on this Board, shows a disregard for the truth. In addition, the autopsy does not fit her account of the murder or the overkill that was visited upon Jason.

The reaction of the community to her attempt to interrupt the adjustment of the children to their new home, may be a precursor to the way a jury will react to Molly as well.

I appreciated the information.

My opinion only.


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Thank You
This was exactly the point I was trying to get across. Molly lived in Ireland 4 years and has no friends that back up the image she tries to portray. Jason lives in North Carolina for the same length of time and made a large circle of friends. I understand its not a popularity contest.

 

[kittythehare]

I agree objectivity is key to finding facts, a clean clear mind will uproot more valid information.

 

[searchinGirl]

I think the fact that Molly was indicted speaks volumes about what the police believe...I mean her Dad took responsibility for the killing yet she was charged along with him...I believe they are covering up...and JC seems like a fine man...that's not to say that any person when pushed far enough won't push back...but without the history of abuse I doubt Molly has much of a defense in that regard...my guess is the prosecutors are still trying to get the truth and when they do they'll plead it out and seek resolution satisfactory to Jason's family ...

 

[Electric Sheep]

I think the fact that Molly was indicted speaks volumes about what the police believe...I mean her Dad took responsibility for the killing yet she was charged along with him...I believe they are covering up...and JC seems like a fine man...that's not to say that any person when pushed far enough won't push back...but without the history of abuse I doubt Molly has much of a defense in that regard...my guess is the prosecutors are still trying to get the truth and when they do they'll plead it out and seek resolution satisfactory to Jason's family ...

I agree. I think this case will hinge on forensics, not on personalities.

 

[Frizby]

I agree. I think this case will hinge on forensics, not on personalities.

I disagree, I think it will hinge on both, one will back the other up. Her character, actions & history I think will be a strong focus in the case. Forensics will play a larger part in it I do agree.

 

[stephanddoody]

I agree. I think this case will hinge on forensics, not on personalities.

I agree partially . Mollys lawyer is excellent and I don't think he took the case on for a plea bargain. We know Molly claims years of "emotional and physical abuse" but must think there is something he has that can get them off the hook. Thats my own opinion.

 

[sshhh!]

I agree partially . Mollys lawyer is excellent and I don't think he took the case on for a plea bargain. We know Molly claims years of "emotional and physical abuse" but must think there is something he has that can get them off the hook. Thats my own opinion.

If there was "years of emotional and physical abuse" there would be text messages and other stuff like that to back it up. There would also be affidavits from people and friends who could back up scenarios where MM was mistreated. I don't believe it for a second. However MM to me appears like someone who would certainly push your buttons, the fat shaming incident is testament to that. It's unrealistic to think or expect that JC never lost his cool with her. I fully expect them to fling mud and twist things during the trial. But in my opinion if JC really was abusive, he wouldn't have simply left that Friday night gathering early and gone home. It's more likely he would have reacted and there would have been a confrontation. I don't buy it.

 

[Electric Sheep]

I agree partially . Mollys lawyer is excellent and I don't think he took the case on for a plea bargain. We know Molly claims years of "emotional and physical abuse" but must think there is something he has that can get them off the hook. Thats my own opinion.

I suspect Molly considers not getting her own way as emotional abuse. But there would need to be some kind of evidence that her life was in danger at the time of the attack itself, and that evidence seems to be lacking.

 

[stephanddoody]

I suspect Molly considers not getting her own way as emotional abuse. But there would need to be some kind of evidence that her life was in danger at the time of the attack itself, and that evidence seems to be lacking.

I don't buy she was abused either but I think she probably covered her backside by telling others she was and becoming a member of the guild for domestic abuse etc. I don't know if the plan was to kill Jason since the start but it was definitely to get the children and money. She must have a great story because there are people backing her up all the time what it is I don't know
My own opinion

 

[Electric Sheep]

If there was "years of emotional and physical abuse" there would be text messages and other stuff like that to back it up. There would also be affidavits from people and friends who could back up scenarios where MM was mistreated. I don't believe it for a second. However MM to me appears like someone who would certainly push your buttons, the fat shaming incident is testament to that. It's unrealistic to think or expect that JC never lost his cool with her. I fully expect them to fling mud and twist things during the trial. But in my opinion if JC really was abusive, he wouldn't have simply left that Friday night gathering early and gone home. It's more likely he would have reacted and there would have been a confrontation. I don't buy it.

There are a lot of Street Angel House Devil people out there that would not react in public, but would get their revenge in private. However, in this case I suspect that person may be Molly, and as a previous poster said, if she had suffered years of abuse she would not humiliate Jason in public for fear of the private retribution. But one thing I've learned over the years is that you never really know what goes on in other people's marriage.

 

[emmalpage81]

I suspect Molly considers not getting her own way as emotional abuse. But there would need to be some kind of evidence that her life was in danger at the time of the attack itself, and that evidence seems to be lacking.

Agreed. I believe his refusal to allow her to adopt the children was put forward by a MM friend as 'proof' of his controlling nature and suggested this was emotional abuse.

 

[fido]

I suspect Molly considers not getting her own way as emotional abuse. But there would need to be some kind of evidence that her life was in danger at the time of the attack itself, and that evidence seems to be lacking.

Tom martens covered that off nicely in the 911 call. In the middle of all the chaos he managed to say "he said he was gonna kill her"...or "he said I'm gonna kill you"... When I heard that I immediately felt he was obviously ticking off key phrases pre-rehearsed...

 

[Electric Sheep]

I suspect Molly considers not getting her own way as emotional abuse. But there would need to be some kind of evidence that her life was in danger at the time of the attack itself, and that evidence seems to be lacking.

Tom martens covered that off nicely in the 911 call. In the middle of all the chaos he managed to say "he said he was gonna kill her"...or "he said I'm gonna kill you"... When I heard that I immediately felt he was obviously ticking off key phrases pre-rehearsed...

The investigators probably think the same.

 

[stmarysmead]

I'm intrigued by the statement from Tom Martens that "it was a real donnybrook." Yet numerous articles say that police claim the scene of the crime did not match this description. I think that if Jason, a large and strong man, had his hands on Molly and was hit by an older smaller man, that the struggle between this big man and these two assailants would have included Jason flailing about, and damage to other things in the room while a bat was swung at a man trying to protect himself.

In my opinion, the police are saying that the room did not fit that kind of struggle.


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[kittythehare]

YET, his nose had been broken.
That suggests he was at least standing when that blow took place.
Was that the first blow?
Did it throw him to the ground?
The blow that caused death was a blow to the head acc to coroner.
Who inflicted the fatal head blow? The blow that killed him, or the blows that killed him?
I agree with ALansby that the broken nose was inflicted by a man.
Would the blows to the head have been possible had he not been incapacitated following the broken nose? Is that how the chain of evidence is running?
What was the sequence of blows to the head and body?