GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #1

[Frizby]

I hope that the DA will emphasize in his case the disturbingly callous way that the Marten family never missed a beat in immediately pursuing their selfish goals ...after committing such a brutal murder. Right away, they ran out and started pursuing custody. Poor Jason wasn't even buried yet. It is like they stepped over his body and said, "GOODIE, now Molly gets her way!"

I am sure they will be bringing up all events including how Sharon Martens tried to pretend to the Corbett family that Jason had died by just banging his head after Molly pushed him. I don't think that they expected Jason's sister to jump on the first flight available after the news was broken, which from what I can gather was relayed to them some 8 hours after the event.

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/local-news/129678/Funds-still-pouring-in-to-help.html

When the Corbett family originally learned of Jason’s death they were told by Sharon Martens, Molly’s mother, that Molly pushed Jason and that he died after banging his head.

 

[kittythehare]

I am sure they will be bringing up all events including how Sharon Martens tried to pretend to the Corbett family that Jason had died by just banging his head after Molly pushed him. I don't think that they expected Jason's sister to jump on the first flight available after the news was broken, which from what I can gather was relayed to them some 8 hours after the event.

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/local-news/129678/Funds-still-pouring-in-to-help.html

Also remembering the interview given by the uncle regarding his alleged telecommunications with Jason's office in which he referred to the many calls that 'had' to be made including insurers, which may have been top of the list. In the course of the same interview he uses the expression 'a phone registered to me' when questioned whether it was he who had called seeking Jason's belongings while informing the office he was a member of the FBI , presumably in an attempt to misuse his power to obtain that to which he was not entitled

 

[Frizby]

Also remembering the interview given by the uncle regarding his alleged telecommunications with Jason's office in which he referred to the many calls that 'had' to be made including insurers, which may have been top of the list. In the course of the same interview he uses the expression 'a phone registered to me' when questioned whether it was he who had called seeking Jason's belongings while informing the office he was a member of the FBI , presumably in an attempt to misuse his power to obtain that to which he was not entitled

IMO that was him applying reasonable doubt to the acquisitions, basically he was saying 'prove that I actually made the calls'. Suggests that he knows damn well that such calls were made.

The mention of the insurance was not top of the list as you suggest but mentioning that calls were made for the purpose of insurance the day after the death was a bad move & making out that it was for the protection of the children was even a worse move. Insurance would not be or would unlikely to be primary in someones mind the day after such a death and also given his background, he would & so would his family know damn well that you cannot finalise a claim until such time that you have a death certificate.

So what's in another day or a week of waiting to phone the insurance company just to put them on notice of a death. It is not as if the children were going to starve or the insurance company was going to refuse to pay on the basis you did not tell them immediately. Anyway, the insurance company will be able to confirm if any such call was received & who made it. I get the feeling that their FBI & law enforcement status & background went a little bit too much to their heads.

 

[searchinGirl]

Also remembering the interview given by the uncle regarding his alleged telecommunications with Jason's office in which he referred to the many calls that 'had' to be made including insurers, which may have been top of the list. In the course of the same interview he uses the expression 'a phone registered to me' when questioned whether it was he who had called seeking Jason's belongings while informing the office he was a member of the FBI , presumably in an attempt to misuse his power to obtain that to which he was not entitled

I think it was in that same interview that the uncle said he was surprised by the indictments because the Martens had totally cooperated...yet he went on to say that they hadn't spoken to LE since September...perhaps they thought they had gotten away with it...

 

[lisette]

I just wanted to say that it was Jason's job that brought him to North Carolina. Why would MM's brother be there also?

MM was not from Ireland...she was from Knoxville, TN. I believe her brother lived in the Charlotte area, at least that's where he got a DUI that was discussed earlier.

 

[stmarysmead]

http://linkis.com/evoke.ie/news/irish-/btT3R

4 trucks and Molly says she only removed her clothes and some sheets and towels. Must have quite a wardrobe.


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[kittythehare]

IMO that was him applying reasonable doubt to the acquisitions, basically he was saying 'prove that I actually made the calls'. Suggests that he knows damn well that such calls were made.

The mention of the insurance was not top of the list as you suggest but mentioning that calls were made for the purpose of insurance the day after the death was a bad move & making out that it was for the protection of the children was even a worse move. Insurance would not be or would unlikely to be primary in someones mind the day after such a death and also given his background, he would & so would his family know damn well that you cannot finalise a claim until such time that you have a death certificate.

So what's in another day or a week of waiting to phone the insurance company just to put them on notice of a death. It is not as if the children were going to starve or the insurance company was going to refuse to pay on the basis you did not tell them immediately. Anyway, the insurance company will be able to confirm if any such call was received & who made it. I get the feeling that their FBI & law enforcement status & background went a little bit too much to their heads.

I agree with all you say here.. Do you remember there was talk of arranging a cremation? It could be interesting to know when and who attempted to make these arrangements. There was rather an aWFUL amount of organising done in a very short space of time, it seems.. Remembering also that MM accompanied uncle fed to the office again on the Thursday, after the death, when she apparently introduced him as Jason's uncle and they got what they were searching for , apparently. I wonder what it was they got.? (at this point I am going to apologise as a flight of fancy rears its head for the millionth time, disregard by all means. TM was working in counter intelligence. Hotchips got this info earlier and I saw it before too.. there is a possibility that Jason knew something of this , presumably top secret work...thats as far as I am running on this one..just sayin'..

 

[Frizby]

I agree with all you say here.. Do you remember there was talk of arranging a cremation? It could be interesting to know when and who attempted to make these arrangements. There was rather an aWFUL amount of organising done in a very short space of time, it seems.. Remembering also that MM accompanied uncle fed to the office again on the Thursday, after the death, when she apparently introduced him as Jason's uncle and they got what they were searching for , apparently. I wonder what it was they got.? (at this point I am going to apologise as a flight of fancy rears its head for the millionth time, disregard by all means. TM was working in counter intelligence. Hotchips got this info earlier and I saw it before too.. there is a possibility that Jason knew something of this , presumably top secret work...thats as far as I am running on this one..just sayin'..

I think you are jumping the gun there on the 'top secret work' reference, there has been no suggestions or inferences to this regard. To say they got what they wanted is pure speculation as we don't know what they were looking for when the Uncle contacted them which of course he denies. All we know is that they got handed over a box of Jason's personal effects, they did not make it into his office, they got as far as reception.

There are suggestions that the children's passports were kept in Jason's office but not idea if these were in the box that was handed over but if he was trying to get into the office, I suspect that it was these that he was after. It is all very bizarre. I have seen the reference to the cremation but tbh this did not make much sense to me as the suggestion was that they tried to do it before the relatives arrived, the reference afaik was only made as a comment in one of the Journal articles and maybe somewhere else but I have yet to see this in an actual newspaper article. Not disputing that this happened but if it was a statement I would have expected to see it in more newspaper articles.

 

[Frizby]

http://linkis.com/evoke.ie/news/irish-/btT3R

4 trucks and Molly says she only removed her clothes and some sheets and towels. Must have quite a wardrobe.

I think she is appearing in court regarding this on Tuesday.

 

[Dumbfounded2]

would anybody know the weight approximately of a child's bat ?
is there any description of the paving stone that was allegedly used as well? i know there were many images of the home, but I didnt notice paving stones..
My concern is the force used by whichever implement was used to smash his skull?
I am also unclear whether it was the force of the implement or its sharpness which succeeded in breaking skin and bone..
My reading is that the force must have been very vehement.
I also have a sense that he was already unconscious when these blows occurred.
what do others read from the autopsy?

[FONT=&quot]Not sure about the weight of a child's aluminum bat. Very confused that the Uncle might somehow think that because a child’s bat was used that the motive and manner J was killed is not as relevant as if an adult bat was used. Isn’t just as fatal?[/FONT]

 

[kittythehare]

I think you are jumping the gun there on the 'top secret work' reference, there has been no suggestions or inferences to this regard. To say they got what they wanted is pure speculation as we don't know what they were looking for when the Uncle contacted them which of course he denies. All we know is that they got handed over a box of Jason's personal effects, they did not make it into his office, they got as far as reception.

There are suggestions that the children's passports were kept in Jason's office but not idea if these were in the box that was handed over but if he was trying to get into the office, I suspect that it was these that he was after. It is all very bizarre. I have seen the reference to the cremation but tbh this did not make much sense to me as the suggestion was that they tried to do it before the relatives arrived, the reference afaik was only made as a comment in one of the Journal articles and maybe somewhere else but I have yet to see this in an actual newspaper article. Not disputing that this happened but if it was a statement I would have expected to see it in more newspaper articles.

Firstly it is unwise to search only for newspaper reports.
Secondly I did qualify my remarks about a different possible motive as being a mere flight of fancy, a theory, its purpose was to open the case a little and broaden the search parameters. The wanted Jason's personal effects and they received them on the Thursday. That is not speculation. That is a reported fact.
Thirdly, intelligence work is by its nature top secret, it has to be.

 

[stephanddoody]

They will be looking into Thomas Martens FBI history to see what training he had. I assume he would have had training to subdue when he was other attack. The finding will be interesting


http://evoke.ie/news/irish-news/jason-corbett-case-fbi-thomas-martens

 

[Frizby]

Firstly it is unwise to search only for newspaper reports.
Secondly I did qualify my remarks about a different possible motive as being a mere flight of fancy, a theory, its purpose was to open the case a little and broaden the search parameters. The wanted Jason's personal effects and they received them on the Thursday. That is not speculation. That is a reported fact.
Thirdly, intelligence work is by its nature top secret, it has to be.

The speculation comment was with regards to you saying that they got what they were looking for "they got what they were searching for , apparently.", as I said we do not know this, all we know is they were handed a box of personal effects. It is well known that they got a box of stuff. And I have read much more than just newspapers.

 

[Frizby]

They will be looking into Thomas Martens FBI history to see what training he had. I assume he would have had training to subdue when he was other attack. The finding will be interesting


http://evoke.ie/news/irish-news/jason-corbett-case-fbi-thomas-martens

Thanks for that, very interesting. His history within the FBI could be very telling, as many have commented he, he of all people, should know by his training how to subdue someone without causing such damage. Also they appear to be looking as to whether TM could have been the one who instigated the argument. This will get interesting.

 

[stmarysmead]

Let's remember that Jason was nude and in his bedroom. I have a difficult time imagining him arguing with anyone, other than his wife, in the nude. Therefore , if this began with an argument, in my opinion, that argument was between husband and wife in the privacy of their bedroom. In that case, TM came rushing in.

There is a pathology in this family however that is apparent in their actions after the murder and to this day. They seem to believe in their own entitlement. Their daughter married a man that she soon discovered she did not love. But, even considering the short period of marriage, she wanted that man's children and the lifestyle his hard work provided her. Her family thought she should have both.

The unbelievably callous "operation" that swung into place immediately...that included the Mother, Father, Uncle, Aunt...to cover up and collect from the man they killed those very things they coveted...makes the whole family seem like heartless grifters. If it is true that they tried to have a cremation to cover their crime, and further their access to the children and the money, that is beyond the pale.

Their actions show that Jason must have meant nothing to them. The Martens had no interest in his family, in the grief of those who loved him. They were instead immediately organized to rob him of everything he worked for and those children he loved. This is so obscene...it puts the lot of them in a different perspective.

So in that case...maybe Daddy and Mommy Marten came flying down to Molly's defense, furious that the money and kids would be removed from their grasp. Maybe TM did throw the first punch and Molly joined in, beating with the brick, and the mother, hearing the commotion, got her husband a bat from the garage and then they didn't stop till they knew Jason was dead.

After, Jason was taken away, they swung into action...moving large sums of money, trying to arrange a cremation, and filing to keep the kids.

The more we learn about this family, the more grasping and monstrous they seem to me. I can only imagine the heartache of the Corbett family, knowing what these people are truly like and fearing for those children!

I think a jury will see the Martens much as I do. They keep "revealing" their attitudes. This stunt with the removal of the furniture. The attorney's lies about "kids taken in the middle of the night." The "drama" of the Facebook page compared to the inhumane lack of any feeling shown for the man they killed...just a stunning exposure of their "entitlement" and emotional apathy toward anybody other than themselves.

My opinion only.

 

[Hotchips]

The cremation business puzzles me. It has been said she tried to have the cremation the day after his death. This makes no sense. The autopsy would still have had to be carried out, which it was the following day, and she had to wait for his body was formally released to her as his next of kin which I believe happened a number of days later when the lynches had arrived and she in turn released his body to them. I don't get why the martens, being in law enforcement themselves and one would think understood the protocol surrounding a suspicous death, would think they could cremate him the following day. It seems odd. Now the only info I have seen on this cremation is what has been written by supporters, I haven't seen any factual reference to it.

 

[Frizby]

The cremation business puzzles me. It has been said she tried to have the cremation the day after his death. This makes no sense. The autopsy would still have had to be carried out, which it was the following day, and she had to wait for his body was formally released to her as his next of kin which I believe happened a number of days later when the lynches had arrived and she in turn released his body to them. I don't get why the martens, being in law enforcement themselves and one would think understood the protocol surrounding a suspicous death, would think they could cremate him the following day. It seems odd. Now the only info I have seen on this cremation is what has been written by supporters, I haven't seen any factual reference to it.

I got the same regarding to the reference to the cremation. It didn't make sense given the timing of which it was referred to and given their background. I too have only seen it referred to within comments of an article. It could have been Chinese whispers or maybe they had contacted funeral homes with a view to organising something which of course was taken out of their hands as the family took his body home. I suspect however they did make such a call, maybe not for the purpose of getting it done the day after, but their way of trying to control matters, like they have tried to do in many other aspects. The uncle refers to his wife making calls arranging flowers for a memorial that was to happen on the Thursday.

 

[stephanddoody]

I got the same regarding to the reference to the cremation. It didn't make sense given the timing of which it was referred to and given their background. I too have only seen it referred to within comments of an article. It could have been Chinese whispers or maybe they had contacted funeral homes with a view to organising something which of course was taken out of their hands as the family took his body home. I suspect however they did make such a call, maybe not for the purpose of getting it done the day after, but their way of trying to control matters, like they have tried to do in many other aspects. The uncle refers to his wife making calls arranging flowers for a memorial that was to happen on the Thursday.

If we refer back to this newspaper article they did indeed say they were phoning about Jasons life insurance, a Catholic Church & arranging flowers for his funeral so I think Mike himself said that they were arranging Jasons funeral. I doubt they had any reason to believe their story wouldn't be believed by police so were just getting on with things. http://evoke.ie/news/irish-news/molly-martens-uncle-tried-to-get-access-to-jasons-office

 

[Frizby]

If we refer back to this newspaper article they did indeed say they were phoning about Jasons life insurance, a Catholic Church & arranging flowers for his funeral so I think Mike himself said that they were arranging Jasons funeral. I doubt they had any reason to believe their story wouldn't be believed by police so were just getting on with things. http://evoke.ie/news/irish-news/molly-martens-uncle-tried-to-get-access-to-jasons-office

I agree, I knew I had seen a mention of a memorial, I think they thought they could push it all under the carpet and because of their background no one would question them. The mother had phoned the Corbett's to say that Jason had died because he hit his head after falling during an argument. They tried to control matters and while all this was going on, Jason's sister was in transit. The reference to the immediate cremation was only made as a comment on an article.

 

[stmarysmead]

I have this sense that Molly has gone "rogue" from time to time and that might account for some of the reckless behavior. She may have gotten the brilliant idea to see if she could cremate Jason and started making phone calls without even telling her family members or sticking to their "plan." She may have lied to her lawyer about how and when the children were removed and even about others being in the house. This could account for the bizarre public spectacle of a very experienced attorney misstating facts in his first public appearance about the case. And she may have decided to just hire trucks and take whatever she wants in defiance of a court order.

This is simply speculation but someone is not following the game plan in this case and my opinion is that it is Molly.


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