GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #1

[kittythehare]

http://www.mocavo.com/Clemson-University-Yearbook-Taps-2003/851502/300
heres the 2003 Clemson yearbook page 300.
All other grads are listed by name too.. Surely somebody knows somebody who knows somebody etc?

 

[stephanddoody]

http://www.mocavo.com/Clemson-University-Yearbook-Taps-2003/851502/300
heres the 2003 Clemson yearbook page 300.
All other grads are listed by name too.. Surely somebody knows somebody who knows somebody etc?

I think you are right somebody has to remember her .Nothing good or bad has come out . Nobody i remeber her from farragut or I remember her from clemson but maybe they will use that with their defence
@frizby i would love to know what she has said to them in order to keep believing what she says, they don't seem t question it at all but I think as paprobb said they could be afraid. I know that people in the locality get a lot of hassle from her supporters locally for voicing their opinion even singling out children again seems its one rule for Molly and one for the rest of the world

 

[kittythehare]

unintended incompetence is EXACTLY what is worrying.
Were the killers examined by a medic on the night of the murder?
What time did these examinations take place?
Though the paramedics have given a time of death, based upon signs they received that it is fruitless to continue recuss..
What times do the bloodstains indicate as a likely time of death? There was both wet and dried blood in the house when the police arrived.

Were samples taken of both? Blood changes the longer it is exposed to outside of body conditions and it is possible to scientifically estimate how long the dried blood had been exposed to environmental factors This is neither an expensive or particularly complicated test and should be done routinely But reading your post above has set me rethinking the bloodstains.

They have the victim, they have the perps, maybe crime scene was not given the same once-over it would have been where the perps are unknown?

Its the big question, isn't it?

 

[Hotchips]

I agree. Thought the same thing when i saw the dates on the warrants. It was in fact the police who went through her drawers not the guardians so her lie aboutt this has been exposed.

 

[Hotchips]

In terms of the swim coach business as she was a volunteer they prob took her word for it when she said she swam for clemson and didnt bother checking it once she would have produced whatever basic certification she was required to give to them for their own insurance purposes. She wanted to talk herself up most likely to have people think she was better than the other swim coaches.

 

[Frizby]

I think you are right somebody has to remember her .Nothing good or bad has come out . Nobody i remeber her from farragut or I remember her from clemson but maybe they will use that with their defence
@frizby i would love to know what she has said to them in order to keep believing what she says, they don't seem t question it at all but I think as paprobb said they could be afraid. I know that people in the locality get a lot of hassle from her supporters locally for voicing their opinion even singling out children again seems its one rule for Molly and one for the rest of the world

I would have the feeling that it is more stupidity rather than fear. She suckered a few in, helped along by her cousin posting to say that she is an abused woman. She then plays the "break-in" card, they just continue to believe her because they chose to believe what she previously said. Sometimes it is hard to admit you were wrong particularly if you have been so vocal in defence and also much of the details only really came out in the past few weeks.

She is also helped along by a certain local who sat with her as she shed tears packing up the belongings, accusing the Guardian of destroying belonging, ah sure all MM wanted was confirmation that previous items were given to the children. Everything has been played, and they have played everyone there. She & her pal has painted the family in Ireland as horrible, sure they stole her children, all they want is to buy cigarettes, they destroy the children things, they are teaching them to hate, they are telling the children lies, they even lie on the Bible, etc, etc. Her supporter bought into it, I suspect not so many now. Her FB account is very telling.

I am interested in her 'missing years'. She left Farragut in 2002, she is on their page in Year of 2002, was in Clemson in 2003 but 2004 to 2008 are missing. At some point within that period she obviously met someone else, who had a daughter aged 8. Sounds like whoever he was had a lucky escape. Wondering if he has been traced and will he be giving evidence as to her state of mind.

http://www.allhighschools.com/school/farragut-high-school/983907

 

[Frizby]

I agree. Thought the same thing when i saw the dates on the warrants. It was in fact the police who went through her drawers not the guardians so her lie aboutt this has been exposed.

Yeah, and I am also guessing that the reference made by MM friend to the golf clubs that the Guardian were looking for was based on a story that MM spun, after all there was also a search warrant issued for the locker at the golf club. Word would have got round about the search so lets invent a story to cover it.

 

[stmarysmead]

About Molly's Facebook friends. I seem to remember reading that she joined a group in her area that raised money and awareness for abuse. This would provide her, in the short run, with many, many possibilities for FB friends who would be prone to believe her accusations because of their volunteerism. If someone is a volunteer with a Cancer Fundraising organization and then the newspaper prints a story about her suffering from cancer herself, people will pour out the sympathy. I would bet the majority of her FB "friends" are people who want to support an "abuse" victim.

I wondered about her joining this group. If anything, it made me, in my opinion, suspicious of premeditation. But at the least, she may have been spinning tall tales to other volunteers there, long before the murder. This is where the stories of her insulting and humiliating Jason will be very helpful to show her lies. No abuse victim would humiliate her abuser in public knowing what might happen to her in private. I hope their are depositions swearing to her verbal abuse of Jason.

Be prepared that she may have been lying for quite awhile about the abuse. This may be where these sympathetic "friends" appeared from. Most will fade away as her lies and the evidence are released.

My opinion only.




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[Hotchips]

In terms of her employment here, the background to that would good to know. I worked in an organisation in the mid noughties that provided assistance in relation to Irish work visas. It would be interesting to know if an agency was used. Now maybe there is a different arrangement in place for au pairs/ childcare workers I never came across an application for one while I was there so I'm open to correction on that. Generally the employer footed the rather pricey visa fees to the department, had to provide evidence they could not find a suitable employee who was Irish or an EU national and also provide a certain amount of financial info. The prospective employee in turn had to provide evidence they had appropriate health insurance in place, police clearance , other means to fall back on and show how they were qualified to do the job and these visas had to renewed and paid for every year. She wasn't in ireland long enough to apply for indefinite leave to remain. All this is rather cumbersome for an individual with no great knowledge of the system if they didn't have an agent or solicitor to assist them. Either way, a visa application would have had to been made on her behalf whether it was through an agency or if Jason placed an individual ad. He had other au pairs prior to molly coming which leads me to believe he used an agency.

 

[stmarysmead]

Reading some old articles that have probably been discussed earlier in the thread. A few things stuck out to me.

Why would Molly have to take albums to a meeting with the children when they had been in her custody until the day before? Why the need to remind them of "happy memories" or that she was a "good mother?" I think, in my opinion, that Molly fears what the children may know. Taking the albums reeks of desperation to "prove something." I'm beginning to have the opinion that retaining custody was always partially about retaining control over what they told the police.

It's also downright infuriating how Uncle Mike acts as if Jason died of a heart attack or something and now his niece was losing "her" children. No mention that she and her Dad beat poor man's brains out with a bat and brick.

Also, he claims that they took cruises with the family. I wonder if Jason paid?

http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...ing-final-moments-with-children-31490353.html





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[fido]

I though the exact same thing stmarymeade. Exactly. I keep thinking of Gone Girl... the protagonist had everything set up for her husband to take the fall and played the abused victim herself.. I read somewhere that in NC a step parent can get custody if dv is proven. I don't know if this is true. I wonder if this what she was trying to do.. set the stage in advance with all her acquaintances lined up and then go for custody.. I don't know if I am convinced this was pre meditated. I think an FBI agent would have set a more convincing scene. I think she flipped when she realised Jason was leaving and attacked him the poor man. Then daddy swooped in to try and cover for her. Did anyone else find it so poignant that he was still wearing his wedding ring when he was killed? Despite the state of things he was still faithful enough to wear it... He seemed to have been a beautiful man. His colleagues at his place of work have planted a lovely memorial tree outside his office windows and nobody has moved into his office. They turned it into a meeting room instead...

 

[fido]

I also feel its shocking that the Corbett family have never even had an apology not even his elderly parents. I know full well an apology would be meaningless and futile but if I killed somebody accidently or even in self defence, I would show some remorse especially if that person was in my family for a no of years where I would have good memories as well as the bad. Surely you would have mixed emotions about the death itself. But no, its all about Molly and her mothering and the fact that she no longer has the kids... He is effectively erased from the landscape, never even mentioned except to blacken his name.

 

[stephanddoody]

@hotchips

I meant as they stated sorry just read my reply back sounded quite abrupt and that wasn't my intention sorry if you took it the wrong way

 

[Electric Sheep]

It's going to be hard to get around the fact that there were no marks on Molly and her father. Surely strangulation would leave bruises, etc. If Mr Martens had the presence of mind to do a bit of beating on Molly to set the scene better, they might well have gotten away with murder.

I am haunted by the thought of the children hearing all this going on at 3am.

 

[kittythehare]

I understand she has stated that she 'doesn't bruise'.
Sorry am unable to recall where that was stated.. certainly more than 1 source mentioned it.
Which leads us to med records.. I understand we cannot access those under some law? Somebody referred to it in a post some weeks ago, here, I think.
schoolmates and mother will provide vital clues, I have a hunch.. thats not very useful.

 

[stephanddoody]

I understand she has stated that she 'doesn't bruise'.
Sorry am unable to recall where that was stated.. certainly more than 1 source mentioned it.
Which leads us to med records.. I understand we cannot access those under some law? Somebody referred to it in a post some weeks ago, here, I think.
schoolmates and mother will provide vital clues, I have a hunch.. thats not very useful.

I heard that stated as well a couple of times by a friend of Molly and by somebody that supports her but is strange neither had any marks at all and Jason had multiple including defensive wounds . Also him being naked was a revelation especially when her closet friends said "it would seem he slept in the nip or so I have been told" who told her that? Was he attacked in his sleep ?

 

[colette]

I think someone hitting another person with a bat could easily have no marks if the person tried to fight back. The bat would keep them at a length away. Molly didn't have a scratch but poor Jason did. I think the dad is just trying to help his daughter, I really don't think he killed Jason.

 

[Electric Sheep]

I can't help wondering if there was a 3rd party involved. Molly is quite slight, and Jason was a very big man. I find it hard to imagine she would be able to completely overcome him and be left unmarked. Could she have had someone else, not her father, do the job for her? Someone who wanted to "save" a damsel in distress from her "abusive" husband?

 

[kittythehare]

either that or he was showering/bathing when he got beaten.. i completely missed all her friends' comments, except those on her fb page..
I would think it extremely rare for a naked person to start a row/argument which lead to violence..
It really does look as though he had been sleeping. remember his blood alcohol level was v v low..suggesting several hours since he had had a drink.

 

[Electric Sheep]

either that or he was showering/bathing when he got beaten.. i completely missed all her friends' comments, except those on her fb page..
I would think it extremely rare for a naked person to start a row/argument which lead to violence..
It really does look as though he had been sleeping. remember his blood alcohol level was v v low..suggesting several hours since he had had a drink.

But wouldn't it be obvious if he was attacked in the bed? Blood on the sheets or covers? Could he have been lured out of the bed on some pretext by Molly, and ambushed by her accomplice?

So many questions, so few answers.