GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #1

[kittythehare]

certainly from the few sparse details published of the crime scene , quite an amount took place in the bedroom. I too often think there could well have been a third party because of the vehemence of the blows inflicted and the amount of damage they did

 

[Electric Sheep]

certainly from the few sparse details published of the crime scene , quite an amount took place in the bedroom. I too often think there could well have been a third party because of the vehemence of the blows inflicted and the amount of damage they did

Someone young, strong and very big. Someone Molly could manipulate, perhaps.

 

[wildebeest]

Lots of posts to catch up on. Really glad to have all the newcomers, with thought provoking ideas and comments.

Thought....Does anyone think that perhaps Jason was murdered before midnight? The 3 AM call to 911 bothers me a great deal. To me it makes more sense that the argument happened a bit earlier than 3 AM. I do think Jason was asleep in bed when he was struck. I'm thinking that they huddled together, Tom and Molly, to get the story straight, possibly tamper with evidence, then make the call to 911. Do any of you think they called other family members for help or advice? I really hope the children did NOT see or hear any of this. Not sure what Seecu was doing during all the commotion. :twocents:

IMHO

 

[wildebeest]

Wildebeest it was her own parents and her chief brides maid she threw out because her cousin had a food allergy. She attacked Jason over this fact lots of witnesses to this @hotchips regards the things said by Mollys friends I would imagine that somebody had to suggest those things to them ? You don't come up with them kind of things on your own knowing nothing ? People usually say those kind of things when information is given to them . Where did that information come from . What happened as far as I am aware hot chips is Molly and Jason were out on Friday night at a social gathering . She ridiculed him in front of their mutual friends about his weight he actually left the party he was upset and had had enough it was ongoing and wasn't the first time it was done in front of people . There are witnesses to this who have told the police this . He Booked 3 tickets home to Ireland these were booked Saturday (also evidence of this) she found out and called in Daddy and Mammy . The rest we know. Yes there were a few members if they donated or how much I don't know. Jason's accounts are frozen so Molly has no money to use . I can imagine her own parents have paid the bail and fronted for the money so far the lawyers they are supposed to be the best money can buy. Every step of this costs money for both sides and personally I feel Molly is doing everything in her power to torment the Corbetts. The contast appeals, the disregarding of court orders so the Corbetts have to get an injunction the latest moving stuff from the house , every time they go to court or get an injunction it costs money and the guardians have to fly over why do all that ? In my opinion it's Molly is continuing to be a spoilt brat if I can't have nobody can and I think the jury will think the same when all evidence is available to them. With regards the private page and the arguing that has nothing to do with them as far as I know they don't know the person and have asked several times to stop and they won't they are not responsible for everybody that supports the page and if you look those same people never actually comment or like anything on the support page so they are doing it for their own reasons and are no benifit to the Corbetts at all .The supporters that deal in facts far outweighs the ones that ridicule and I feel if the supporters said nothing Jason would be described as a violent bullying woman beating man from Ireland which mollys supports had said in early posts on all the American papers and some Irish surely that taints the jury pool also . I'm still seeing it as there is one rule for Mollys support who can say whatever they want and another for Jason's who can't say anything and like kitty said the page admins are very good and usually remove any comments on their page that without any substance . @kitty Thanks I have found somebody that was acquainted with Molly in Farragut she gave me info on mollys swim records she definitely wasn't an Olympic swimmer she came 6th in some of the races she showed me so maybe she wasn't in the swim team at Clemson after all . I doubt you be with those times maybe I'm wrong I really want to know about Clemson though and this imaginary step daughter or was there one if so why is her dad not defending her saying what a great step parent she was All my own opinion

Thanks for the additional info about Molly's outburst at the wedding. Also the info about her supposed swimming career, was very interesting!

:goodpost:

 

[Electric Sheep]

Lots of posts to catch up on. Really glad to have all the newcomers, with thought provoking ideas and comments.

Thought....Does anyone think that perhaps Jason was murdered before midnight? The 3 AM call to 911 bothers me a great deal. To me it makes more sense that the argument happened a bit earlier than 3 AM. I do think Jason was asleep in bed when he was struck. I'm thinking that they huddled together, Tom and Molly, to get the story straight, possibly tamper with evidence, then make the call to 911. Do any of you think they called other family members for help or advice? I really hope the children did NOT see or hear any of this. Not sure what Seecu was doing during all the commotion. :twocents:

IMHO

It has definitely crossed my mind. The attack itself could have taken place earlier, death might not have been immediate. I think 911 was not called until they knew he was dead. However, I have no medical training, so I don't know if they would be able to determine that in an autopsy.

 

[Conger]

Hi all
Absolutely great site, have watched from afar but this is my first post, great to see a mature and logical discussion held in a mannerly fashion.
I am posting from Limerick, so as you can imagine emotions are running high here over this case.
There are a number of worrying items in this case in my opinion and I will apologise now if some of these have been covered previously.
1) The missing years of mm, I have done a little bit of checking but bar the photo from the Clemson yearbook, things comeback blank. It was previously mentioned here in regards to the status and rank of both tm and me as federal officials, but even as mid ranking officials would it have been possible from them to "hide" mishaps and happenings of mm in the past, speculative thought on my behalf.
2) Sm on the night of the 2nd of August, IMHO I think Sm had control of the children that night either in the basement or another room while mm and tm were with jc. Sm just seems to have slipped off the scene at the moment.
3) Could mm if things did not or we're not going her way in the coming court case change her plea to one of insanity, she would have plenty to use such as her fb page , her actions ( both pre and post 2nd August) and the web of lies and discrepancies that have been recorded to date, I know here, at times, Judges and Juries can take a more lenient stance with such a plea, again this purely speculative thinking on my part.
thank you, keep up the great work.

 

[Frizby]

certainly from the few sparse details published of the crime scene , quite an amount took place in the bedroom. I too often think there could well have been a third party because of the vehemence of the blows inflicted and the amount of damage they did

That got me thinking of a post I read, a post from someone in the area, someone who is claiming to be neutral. They point to the toxicology report, saying that it stated 20mg/dl ethanol & 0.5 mg/dl of Trazoden. The toxicology report actually says 'Less then 0.5mg/dl' however they go on to say that they have "googled it" and as a mix it causes auditory hallucinations. They go on to say it is a nasty cocktail. Now that bit didn't bother me too much, tbh I sort of rolled my eyes at their so called medical expertise because they googled it & came up with all sorts picking probably the worst case scenario in excessive cases. It was the following bit that disturbed me. They state that they have "been told" that it was not his prescription, so this is what is being said, who would know what his prescription was? My first thought when that comment was made was was she aware he had this in his system? Who gave it to him?

 

[kittythehare]

unlikely as rigor mortis sets in quite quickly and it would have been obvious. Unsure how it could be determined if he had died within an hour, however

 

[kittythehare]

Last published report states they will be pleading 'nOT GUILTY'
Just found this link to her lawyer.. guy is pretty brilliant by all accounts
http://www.cfpwlaw.com/Attorneys/David-B-Freedman.shtml
If there is the tiniest loophole, he will find it.
Reminder that nothing is certain in this case.

She can change her plea from not guilty to guilty by reason of insanity, but then her father would certainly get jail for attempting to thwart the course of justice. Her mental state will probably be determined at one of the many and various pre trial hearings/meetings/attendances.

Like you I have spent hundreds of hours searching with no result worth mentioning. That, in itself is a tad strange because I remember working on other cases where all the information became found very quickly. Its possible some sealing was done to block this.
Mother may have been in basement with children or upstairs with children but she has disappeared from the radar since.. Or mother may even have been the perpetrator.. we dont know much at all

 

[Electric Sheep]

If Jason was drugged, whether he took the drug himself or had it administered to him without his knowledge, it would explain how he was overcome so easily.

 

[Electric Sheep]

Mother may have been in basement with children or upstairs with children but she has disappeared from the radar since.. Or mother may even have been the perpetrator.. we dont know much at all

Now THAT would be quite a plot twist!

I am beginning to image a "Murder on the Orient Express" scenario with each Martens giving a few blows to Jason...

 

[kittythehare]

geez.http://www.drugs.com/trazodone.html. thats just a basic skimpy article on this major anti depressant. A way to get better info, if v technical would be to google under Effects/dose required to produce a blood level of >0.5mg/dl
i also noticed while reading some of the lengthy articles on the subject that it is very much contra -indicated when cardiac disease exists. Jason's autopsy as published in The Irish Times indicated a level of cardiomyopathy. He looked to be a healthy fellow in all the images I have seen. Its probable and likely that he would have been aware of his condition, if he saw his doctor regularly and i'm guessing he did as he was on a weight loss programme. So if he knew, its likely Molly knew. I have not checked whether it has recreational use but I doubt it.. rare to use antidepressants for 'buzzing'. Who prescribed the drug and who was the drug prescribed for? I am kinda shocked discovering this info because it has other implications. And that is possibly a matter for the police, but they probably checked already. I meant to look into it when I first read the full autopsy, or as full as it was in Irish Times, several weeks ago..

If he did not take it himself, was he spiked?

There would be other signs of drug toxicity in other organs in his body, like liver, kidney and possiblyheart. Stomach contents, bladder contents and analysis have not been made public yet.

If somebody knowingly spiked a person with this, there is no way they would not have known of the cardiac dangers it would present, even on the skimpiest of accompanying literature

 

[kittythehare]

ah well keep an open mind.. nothing is as it seems..

 

[Frizby]

I meant to look into it when I first read the full autopsy, or as full as it was in Irish Times, several weeks ago..

Full Autopsy & Toxicology report can be downloaded from the following....

http://www.journalnow.com/jason-cor...pdf_791b62e4-84de-533d-86af-032964d7a959.html

http://www.journalnow.com/jason-cor...pdf_f8089527-06f7-5d24-a2ed-e651f4d8e6fd.html

 

[kittythehare]

see this also.. Read the indications..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trazodone(wikilink is not cos i trust it, but it has stated half life of drug to be 7 hrs. That means that after 7 hours, no trace of this drug will be found in a person's system. Next to be analysed is the breakdown stages of the drug and the rate of synthesis
what time was the drug injested? what else was in the system?

Iam now beginning to wonder whether the beating was used to cover up a different kind of murder?

also it should be remembered that not ALL known drugs are 'tested for' in autopsy. There may have been others which were simply not detected

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-11188/trazodone-oral ( better link, as in more reputable for medical stuff)

 

[Electric Sheep]

see this also.. Read the indications..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trazodone(wikilink is not cos i trust it, but it has stated half life of drug to be 7 hrs. That means that after 7 hours, no trace of this drug will be found in a person's system. Next to be analysed is the breakdown stages of the drug and the rate of synthesis
what time was the drug injested? what else was in the system?

Iam now beginning to wonder whether the beating was used to cover up a different kind of murder?

also it should be remembered that not ALL known drugs are 'tested for' in autopsy. There may have been others which were simply not detected

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-11188/trazodone-oral ( better link, as in more reputable for medical stuff)

Interesting, from those links it would seem that Trazodone would not be prescribed for someone with bipolar disorder. So the prescription is unlikely to have been Molly's.

This should be an interesting trial. RIP Ann Rule, she would have written a great book about this case.

 

[Hotchips]

I had spotted the tradozone myself in the report. I had heard of it before as an anti depressant. I must ask a psych nurse friend what she knows about it. It should be easy enough for the investigators to find out whose it was. It would have been prescribed to someone in the house.

 

[kittythehare]

thanks, I got it on the 2nd link.. I had not seen that in full before.
Noting the uniform sizes of the lacerations, something small and sharp and heavy.. cannot imagine what it could be.. paving bricks are big things.. unless he was repeatedly hit with the corner of one, and then, how would it be possible to take such a 'swing' and use it almost as a knife?
Other thing I noticed was the presence of blood in his nostrils, a trained first aider would have cleared this prior to commencing recuss.
There was also blood in his airway, strange the paramedics had not suctioned this off prior to whatever actions they actually took? but it does not state what part of his airway was blood filled, may have been lower down, in which case suctioning should have removed it.. Theres lots to think about in this.Thanks for the good link.

 

[Electric Sheep]

I had spotted the tradozone myself in the report. I had heard of it before as an anti depressant. I must ask a psych nurse friend what she knows about it. It should be easy enough for the investigators to find out whose it was. It would have been prescribed to someone in the house.

Not necessarily. I know of a young woman who died from a reaction to well known anti depressant. She was convinced by Dr. Google that it was the answer to her problems. Her doctor would not prescribe it, as it was contraindicated where bulimia was an issue. She bought the pills from her friend who had a legitimate prescription. Sadly, it proved fatal.

That drug could have some from any number of sources, legitimate or not. It could be as simple as nicking a pill out of someone's medicine cabinet on a visit, or asking for one of a friend's tablets that "help her sleep".

 

[kittythehare]

thats what I was thinking myself..there have been reports that Molly used to leave her lithium lying around the house, she didnt lock it away.. was she taking both? Different GPs?