GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #1

[stmarysmead]

Very interesting article. Thank you! It looks like the judge has not ruled yet, which is good news.

I notice also that Molly, who has claimed to be a graduate of Clemson and done post graduate work at Emory...is selling clothes at a Mall store. Or was...until they suspended her. This supports the theory that she has lied about having any education.

The money to the parents could be an explosive find. Did Jason tell TM that he was divorcing their daughter and wanted that money returned?




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[Electric Sheep]

Very interesting article. Thank you! It looks like the judge has not ruled yet, which is good news.

I notice also that Molly, who has claimed to be a graduate of Clemson and done post graduate work at Emory...is selling clothes at a Mall store. Or was...until they suspended her. This supports the theory that she has lied about having any education.

The money to the parents could be an explosive find. Did Jason tell TM that he was divorcing their daughter and wanted that money returned?




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If Jason was looking for repayment there must be some documentation of this as a loan. Should be interesting. If no documentation, then this plus buying a house when he had no intention of living long term in the US points to a serious lack of financial savvy.

 

[emmalpage81]

Interesting. I would be minded to think that the transfer of money may have had something to do with the wedding. The transfer was in May 2011 and they married, according to the above article, in June 2011. It could well have been that it was easier for her parents to make any relevant payments being in Knoxville. Although, on the other hand, 80,000 is a high figure for a wedding so I could be completely off the mark.

 

[stmarysmead]

If Jason was looking for repayment there must be some documentation of this as a loan. Should be interesting. If no documentation, then this plus buying a house when he had no intention of living long term in the US points to a serious lack of financial savvy.

I disagree. In the US, owning a house has significant tax advantages. And despite the recession, there are still parts of the country where real estate is a good investment. My husband has made several moves with his job, each known to be temporary. We have bought homes each time and made a nice profit upon each and every sale.

I do agree though that any loan, even to relatives, is wise to have legal documentation. But it's possible that at the beginning of a new marriage, Jason was persuaded to do many things to try to make his new bride happy. He could be the most financially saavy individual in every other aspect of his life, and make THAT mistake.


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[Hotchips]

Am gobsmacked by MM's sense of entitlement! Very hard for the Corbetts to produce evidence to prove a violation took place, but surely the fact that she took anything at all from the house without agreement is the violation?

http://m.the-dispatch.com/Section/431/Article/160209939

It seems there was an agreement made in relation to the estate in September where she was allowed to take her belongings. As much as it may anger the family, she was entitled to take her clothes and personal belongings regardless of whether Jason paid for them or not. furnishings such as wall hangings, linen, mattresses are of no great monetary value so the only reason i think she would take these is that she was intending to move out of her parents home and perhaps rent somewhere to live. I read she had been working up until recently so moving to a place of her own was probably the next step . University graduate or not, the fact she hadnt worked in four years would narrow her job search pool quite considerably.

 

[Hotchips]

Interesting. I would be minded to think that the transfer of money may have had something to do with the wedding. The transfer was in May 2011 and they married, according to the above article, in June 2011. It could well have been that it was easier for her parents to make any relevant payments being in Knoxville. Although, on the other hand, 80,000 is a high figure for a wedding so I could be completely off the mark.

I tend to agree here, if the money was transferred before their wedding, its possible it was do to with paying for the wedding, perhaps to pay a deposit and /or purchase items for the house they were buying and its just possible, Jason didnt have his banking set up proper yet and it was the easiest way to transfer over money. he had no reason to believe they would steal from him at the time. im sure whatever it was used for will be documented be it either used to buy things for his own home or whether the martens needed a loan, though not sure why they woudl need a loan of this amount given they had a grown up family and had two good incomes.

 

[fido]

The Martens tried to pass off this horrific beat-down as an "oops." Their attitude was "See What Jason Made Us Do!"

They found out with the indictments that LE is not buying that excuse. They are going to go after them full bore. At the very least, there will be nothing left of their respectability, their reputations. The autopsy is chilling. Overkill. Fiends out of control. How frightening to know people like this! This is not how normal people react. The Martens are not normal people IMO.

Then, add to the public's knowledge of their insane, excessive rage...the actions taken by the family after they killed this young man. It was all a rush to get Molly the things she wanted. It's like Jason never mattered.Frankly, I hope Molly's FB is entered as evidence at trial. This FB campaign is so obviously a ruse to present herself favorably. I'm sure they will have her old FB posts to show the contrast.

My opinion only as usual.

does anyone know anything about old Facebook pages? Were they different to the new sickening post murder page?

 

[emmalpage81]

does anyone know anything about old Facebook pages? Were they different to the new sickening post murder page?

I believe that up until the decision on guardianship - her account was set to private. She only opened it up to new posts at that time. I would assume that prior to the murder her FB would have shown much more of JC and his involvement in daily family life.

 

[stmarysmead]

LE can and has accessed her accounts going back as long as they wish and/or they existed.

I hope the Corbett family will watch the OJ special. Remember OJ was found innocent but later lost in the civil trial. The Corbetts should file a wrongful death suit against Father and Daughter. With the evidence of overkill, that family could be brought to their financial knees. That suit should be filed no matter which way the criminal trial goes.

No rest for the wicked, as they say.

The Martens may need to sell the furniture, sheets, clothes, and mattresses, Jason's and their own...before long.

My opinion only.


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[Electric Sheep]

I disagree. In the US, owning a house has significant tax advantages. And despite the recession, there are still parts of the country where real estate is a good investment. My husband has made several moves with his job, each known to be temporary. We have bought homes each time and made a nice profit upon each and every sale.

I do agree though that any loan, even to relatives, is wise to have legal documentation. But it's possible that at the beginning of a new marriage, Jason was persuaded to do many things to try to make his new bride happy. He could be the most financially saavy individual in every other aspect of his life, and make THAT mistake.


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What tax advantages apply to owning a house with no mortgage? I am interested as my mortgage will finally be paid off next year:happydance:

If the information on this thread is true, and of course we don't know if it is, Jason sold his house in Ireland at a time when property prices there had fallen by about 50%. A person who intended to return to live there would be pretty foolhardy to sell rather than rent the house out in the short term at that time, especially with family around to deal with the rental issues.

 

[Hotchips]

What tax advantages apply to owning a house with no mortgage? I am interested as my mortgage will finally be paid off next year:happydance:

If the information on this thread is true, and of course we don't know if it is, Jason sold his house in Ireland at a time when property prices there had fallen by about 50%. A person who intended to return to live there would be pretty foolhardy to sell rather than rent the house out in the short term at that time, especially with family around to deal with the rental issues.

Yes this is a good point and is very true, Limerick city and county especially suffered big time from falling house prices around that time and now prices are starting to rise slowly. Its likely if he were going to return and purchase a new property, he would have paid more than what he sold his original home for. It did occur to me previously strange he didnt keep a base in Ireland especially if he was , as the family say, having serious doubts and worries about moving to the US and if he had never intended it to be long term. Decent rentals are hard to come by here and had he kept his home with no mortgage , he would have made a decent rental income subject to tax of course plus the very good dollar/euro exchange rate in those years, it would have gone a long way to cover the costs of a rental in NC.

 

[stmarysmead]

What tax advantages apply to owning a house with no mortgage? I am interested as my mortgage will finally be paid off next year:happydance:

If the information on this thread is true, and of course we don't know if it is, Jason sold his house in Ireland at a time when property prices there had fallen by about 50%. A person who intended to return to live there would be pretty foolhardy to sell rather than rent the house out in the short term at that time, especially with family around to deal with the rental issues.

Lol...you've got me there.

But I still think that it's a matter of preference whether to rent or own a house even when you know it is a matter of years. And there is the hope of making a profit when you next sell.

Perhaps Molly persuaded him to buy her a house as he had bought one for Mags.

That house in Ireland had a lot of tragic memories for Jason and since it was built for his first wife, with Mag's preferences, a second wife might want a different house if they were to return.

There are a lot of emotional reasons that might factor in here.

I don't think we know enough to cast aspersions on Jason's financial prowess.






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[Electric Sheep]

There are a lot of emotional reasons that might factor in here.

I don't think we know enough to cast aspersions on Jason's financial prowess.

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I just wonder where he got his financial advice. It looks to me that what had been Jason's before his second marriage was put into buying a house in cash that was now joint property. I know these things vary from state to state, but wouldn't that money have been Jason's in a divorce if the money had not been put into the "family home"?

 

[Hotchips]

Lol...you've got me there.
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But I still think that it's a matter of preference whether to rent or own a house even when you know it is a matter of years. And there is the hope of making a profit when you next sell.

Perhaps Molly persuaded him to buy her a house as he had bought one for Mags.

That house in Ireland had a lot of tragic memories for Jason and since it was built for his first wife, with Mag's preferences, a second wife might want a different house if they were to return.

There are a lot of emotional reasons that might factor in here.

I don't think we know enough to cast aspersions on Jason's financial prowess.

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Yes I think there would have been issues with regards to it becoming his and mollys marital home, I can understand that. A new wife would want to put their own stamp on it. For me, the house being sold to fund the new one leads me to think that Jason was fully on board to embrace a new start abroad and saw it as long term. If he did indeed see it as temporary measure or had concerns, it would have made more sense to retain a base here. Even had he bought another property here with some of the proceeds as property was very cheap in limerick at that time and if he was able to part with 80k , he had the means to do it. I think he was quite savvy with money as he was comfortably well off and didn't appear to live the high life but its puzzling about the decision to cut those ties when it was supposedly a temporary move and he wasn't under financial pressure to sell up. Perhaps i am trying to delve into this too much but just thinking in terms of the big picture. I myself have retained a property in Ireland while in the states and i have spent extended periods living both sides of the pond at different times which has a mortgage but its there for me to come back too when I get the notion! Unfortunately can't afford to purchase stateside.

 

[stmarysmead]

http://evoke.ie/news/jason-corbett-wasnt-ready-to-marry-claims-best-friend

I just see a young widower left with two babies who has this attractive young woman come into his life. As this article says...she was there in the Mom role when he came home every day. He felt things went too fast, but he didn't want the children to lose a mother figure again. So I see a man who began making concessions to please Molly.

They would move to America. They would get married. They would have the kind of wedding she wanted. They would buy her a nice house. I think Jason was making many decisions based on what Molly wanted...each with the hope that this would make Molly happy.

But the rages were present even at the wedding. His doubts grew and that's why he would not let her adopt the children. I think Jason got tired of managing Molly's moods and realized that all these things he had done for her, did not bring peace to his home.

I think appeasing Molly was the impetus behind many of his decisions. We can't judge his saavy-ness because this man was under great emotional duress, in my opinion.


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[Electric Sheep]

Yes I think there would have been issues with regards to it becoming his and mollys marital home, I can understand that. A new wife would want to put their own stamp on it. For me, the house being sold to fund the new one leads me to think that Jason was fully on board to embrace a new start abroad and saw it as long term. If he did indeed see it as temporary measure or had concerns, it would have made more sense to retain a base here. Even had he bought another property here with some of the proceeds as property was very cheap in limerick at that time and if he was able to part with 80k , he had the means to do it. I think he was quite savvy with money as he was comfortably well off and didn't appear to live the high life but its puzzling about the decision to cut those ties when it was supposedly a temporary move and he wasn't under financial pressure to sell up. Perhaps i am trying to delve into this too much but just thinking in terms of the big picture. I myself have retained a property in Ireland while in the states and i have spent extended periods living both sides of the pond at different times which has a mortgage but its there for me to come back too when I get the notion! Unfortunately can't afford to purchase stateside.

It's not just the buying of the house, it's the failure to protect his premarital assetts. He should have taken a mortgage, then in the event of divorce they would just split the equity while Jason would keep his premarital capital. With no mortgage, they would have to split the full value of the house.

If he received advice, he was very poorly advised.

 

[stmarysmead]

Well, hopefully a conviction will make the whole issue a moot point.


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[stephanddoody]

It's not just the buying of the house, it's the failure to protect his premarital assetts. He should have taken a mortgage, then in the event of divorce they would just split the equity while Jason would keep his premarital capital. With no mortgage, they would have to split the full value of the house.

If he received advice, he was very poorly advised.

I've been reading back and ye have made some great points. I just wanted to say I think he probably didn't get advice regarding the buying of the house etc. Its my own opinion he never looked beyond keeping his family happy and probably didn't foresee divorce . To be fair you don't get married thinking about your finances in case of divorce. You get married and you are full of hope for the future. Maybe he would have kept that house in America as a vacation home, he liked golf had made lots of friends in North Carolina close but not too close to the in-laws . Its a big house his family would have plenty room to vacation there. In my opinion he didn't think past moving to keep Molly happy and in the children's lives

 

[stmarysmead]

I have read here and there that MM made contact with an old boyfriend. Is that a rumor or is there any more to it?

 

[sshhh!]

I think he was quite savvy with money as he was comfortably well off and didn't appear to live the high life but its puzzling about the decision to cut those ties when it was supposedly a temporary move

It was never a temporary move, not sure where people are getting this from? They got engaged, then MM stated her preference to return to the US as she was homesick and claimed issues with extending her visa. JC organised a job transfer, sold his house and moved over lock, stock and barrel to marry her.

If you read the interview with Lynn Shanahan, she states that Jason had his doubts about leaving Ireland, family etc but had the view that it was worth a shot and if it didn't work out they could always return home. He obviously had the means to make that possible and didn't see it as a huge risk. There's also an interview with his best friend and business colleague who stated that JC only found out about MM's Bi-Polar and health issues just before they were set to move, and was quite down about it. Had he known about this earlier, he may very well have been more cautious or even taken a completely different path in life.