GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #3

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  • #261
All this talk of abuse, medications, blah, blah..is, in my opinion...just deflections. Defense lawyers saying look here...not there...look here. They have a woman who wants to play the timid, long suffering abused wife...who witnesses say regularly fat-shamed her husband in front of others.

They have a woman to defend on whose behalf they have publicly claimed she is not bipolar and has not taken medication in years...and now BINGO...a book on Amazon, several years old, details a very contradictory account.

They have an old man trying to cast himself as Super Codger, able to fell a younger, stronger raging drunk with a single blow!! But only it wasn't just one blow. It was many, many. And it wasn't just one weapon. Bat and brick. Blood and brains.

( and didn't MM decide to keep that furniture? Wasn't it hauled off in the greed-grab?)

I think they'd better try for plea. But then she'd have to give back Jason's money and I fear they would not be paid.

Or so I believe in my humble opinion.
 
  • #262
All this talk of abuse, medications, blah, blah..is, in my opinion...just deflections. Defense lawyers saying look here...not there...look here. They have a woman who wants to play the timid, long suffering abused wife...who witnesses say regularly fat-shamed her husband in front of others.

They have a woman to defend on whose behalf they have publicly claimed she is not bipolar and has not taken medication in years...and now BINGO...a book on Amazon, several years old, details a very contradictory account.

They have an old man trying to cast himself as Super Codger, able to fell a younger, stronger raging drunk with a single blow!! But only it wasn't just one blow. It was many, many. And it wasn't just one weapon. Bat and brick. Blood and brains.

( and didn't MM decide to keep that furniture? Wasn't it hauled off in the greed-grab?)

I think they'd better try for plea. But then she'd have to give back Jason's money and I fear they would not be paid.

Or so I believe in my humble opinion.

and its not like they could employ her to allow her to work the debt off either, is it?
 
  • #263
Maybe they did try to talk her out of it, but with her being an adult if she made her mind up guessing there is not much they could do and she had previously worked as a nanny so this might have been all they were seeing. Many people with mental health problems live perfectly normal lives. But going off to a foreign land with no formal medication, you would have expected them to at the very least check up on what she required and what facility she had to get them. Cannot see how someone can be on up to 26 medication one month and on nothing after that. That is what she wants people to believe, I don't buy it.

End of the day I suppose all they can go on is what she says to them and she has proved to be a master of manipulation. But their lack of empathy towards the Corbetts is really cruel, suppose their fate was sealed when TM made his claim that he hit JC, all they could do then was carry of with a facade, imo I don't think that TM had much if anything to do with the death. I really think that they thought, given their FBI background, that they could make all this just go away. I don't think that they knew quite the level of brutality that was inflicted on JC that night. But also, it is not just the Martens, Mike Earnest injecting himself into the story left right and centre. He himself is under investigation. And then you have his daughter, spreading nasty comments about MM being a victim of DV. Who really knows MM? Does MM even know herself? I suspect many only see the MM that she wishes them to see. But when they are confronted by so many facts, the real MM will become visible to them, no matter how much they don't want to see.


It it is my understanding that they did enable her to go to Ireland. From reading Keith's book Molly was unemployed at the time . Keith was on a very small wage . They were living in a condo owned by her parents at the time . The money for flights and visas would probably come from them unless Jason paid it but I don't think that would be the case but I could be wrong.

i agree on Mike he sure does love the limelight we could start a thread on his antics alone
 
  • #264
The J4J page have scanned the entire article for those of us who don't have access to the actual paper...it's an interesting read! - https://www.facebook.com/BringJackandSarahHome/?fref=ts

I guess at least now we know Molly attended Emory....it just never occurred to me that it was a psych clinic rather than a college!
 
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OK I think I've managed to piece the screenshots together and read it. What I don't get is how, if true, molly was able to move to Ireland and set up a new life for herself one month after leaving a psychiatric facility and discontinue her medication. Could it be the case that she attended a doctor when she arrived in Limerick and was taking her medication all along?. She could have easily done this without sharing it with the corbetts. Employees attend doctors all the time but do not reveal to their employer why, usually due to the sensitive nature of such visits. If this was the case , she would have been stable which appears to be the case as she lasted 4 years without any eyebrows being raised when employed as nanny prior to marriage. Yes manipulation is the huge factor in people with mental health problems but for someone not taking medication fo bi-polar, it would have been obvious to everyone around her, she would not have been able to control all her behaviour and she would have had a rapid descent into delirium most likely after about 6 months.

Mr maginn says he was contacted by an investigator a few months ago. A few months ago would mean around the time she was charged. He says he agreed to the article because of the content of the custody hearing, he had concerns about the children etc which was in august last year so why now? What is the purpose of that article? As I said in an earlier post, the martens and molly were most likely aware of his book as it was written about in the local Knoxville papers and he mentions how he changed her name to protect her privacy until now....red herring here perhaps...has she a maneovre here to discredit him...time will tell. Why did he feel now was the time to reveal all, eight months after the custody hearing which he was concerned about. Obviously he didn't keep up to date with local news from Knoxville after he left or he would have seen her name mentioned in local press. I'm just always sceptical of these tell-all articles in sensitive cases and what their purpose is pre-trial...the fact that he was contacted by an investigator means they may use him as a witness as to her character and to disprove her any claims she makes about her mental health. If that is the case, could it be a bad move on his part to give an interview to daily mail at this point? Daily mail couldn't care less, they don't care about the corbetts, they want to sell newspapers. I hope the Corbett children didn't set foot inside a local shop yesterday or they would have seen the headlines staring out at them. I will post the link to Mr maginns website in seperate post for those who have not seen it.
 
  • #267
It's interesting that MM was hospitalized at Emory, in Atlanta, Georgia, hours from her home in Knoxville, Tennesse. One might question whether her mental issues were so severe that her parents felt she needed care beyond what was available locally. Surely there are good hospitals in a city the size of Knoxville, but, for some reason they did not suffice.

I lived in the Midwest for many years, in a city with three fine hodpitals. But, for serious or difficult conditions, it was typical for residents to drive several hours to the world renowned Cleveland Clinic and pay for motels, meals, etc while being treated.

For some reason, MM was taken to the big regional hospital in the South. I don't know why...but Im curious.
 
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It's interesting that MM was hospitalized at Emory, in Atlanta, Georgia, hours from her home in Knoxville, Tennesse. One might question whether her mental issues were so severe that her parents felt she needed care beyond what was available locally. Surely there are good hospitals in a city the size of Knoxville, but, for some reason they did not suffice.

I lived in the Midwest for many years, in a city with three fine hodpitals. But, for serious or difficult conditions, it was typical for residents to drive several hours to the world renowned Cleveland Clinic and pay for motels, meals, etc while being treated.

For some reason, MM was taken to the big regional hospital in the South. I don't know why...but Im curious.
http://emoryhealthcare.org/psychiatry/inpatient-psychiatry/faqs.html

Quick read says that this facility is a premier mental health facility in the US, they don't take involuntary admissions and that everyone going in, goes in on their own accord and the length of stay depends on their treatment plan. One month isn't long at all,wonder did she discharge herself or did the facility feel one month was sufficient for her needs.
 
  • #270
OK I think I've managed to piece the screenshots together and read it. What I don't get is how, if true, molly was able to move to Ireland and set up a new life for herself one month after leaving a psychiatric facility and discontinue her medication. Could it be the case that she attended a doctor when she arrived in Limerick and was taking her medication all along?. She could have easily done this without sharing it with the corbetts. Employees attend doctors all the time but do not reveal to their employer why, usually due to the sensitive nature of such visits. If this was the case , she would have been stable which appears to be the case as she lasted 4 years without any eyebrows being raised when employed as nanny prior to marriage. Yes manipulation is the huge factor in people with mental health problems but for someone not taking medication fo bi-polar, it would have been obvious to everyone around her, she would not have been able to control all her behaviour and she would have had a rapid descent into delirium most likely after about 6 months.

Mr maginn says he was contacted by an investigator a few months ago. A few months ago would mean around the time she was charged. He says he agreed to the article because of the content of the custody hearing, he had concerns about the children etc which was in august last year so why now? What is the purpose of that article? As I said in an earlier post, the martens and molly were most likely aware of his book as it was written about in the local Knoxville papers and he mentions how he changed her name to protect her privacy until now....red herring here perhaps...has she a maneovre here to discredit him...time will tell. Why did he feel now was the time to reveal all, eight months after the custody hearing which he was concerned about. Obviously he didn't keep up to date with local news from Knoxville after he left or he would have seen her name mentioned in local press. I'm just always sceptical of these tell-all articles in sensitive cases and what their purpose is pre-trial...the fact that he was contacted by an investigator means they may use him as a witness as to her character and to disprove her any claims she makes about her mental health. If that is the case, could it be a bad move on his part to give an interview to daily mail at this point? Daily mail couldn't care less, they don't care about the corbetts, they want to sell newspapers. I hope the Corbett children didn't set foot inside a local shop yesterday or they would have seen the headlines staring out at them. I will post the link to Mr maginns website in seperate post for those who have not seen it.

Possibly, after her stay at the huge teaching hospital of Emory, MM was prescribed a new combination of medicines that kept her somewhat stable. But I know from the experiences of a family close to me, that one problem is that often these meds have side effects that the patient dislikes. After a period of stability, they THINK they are cured and they stop the drugs.

A friend's daughter was stable till she married and then decided the drugs were causing miscarriages, so she stopped taking them. She became very sick again and is now divorced, and back home.

I have read that MM claimed to have had miscarriages. I wonder, if in her desire for children, she stopped her meds at some point. Just speculating of course.

As I've posted before, the biggest problem for the defense is that the book was written years ago, when no one cared about MM's history and the author could have no way of knowing that anyone ever would. That makes the content unassassible, no matter what one thinks of the interview. The content is the bombshell...the date of publication undeniable.

The Martens family has tried mightily to project itself, as Uncle Mike says..as the "finest family." I have pity for MM because I think perhaps that image was more important than getting their daughter the help she needed, or protecting little babies from her propensity for rages, and certainly , Jason Corbett's reputation must be sacrificed on the same altar of familial perecrction.

Have any of you read of another bipolar Nanny...check out the murders of the Krim children by their Nanny who snapped one day and left their slashed little bodies in the tub for their Mother to find. Jason paid with his life but thank God, he was spared that.

This Martens family has a great deal to answer for.

My opinion only.
 
  • #271
A months stay at Emory belies the fact that MM's problems were minor. That is a long expensive hospitalization. Insurance will not cover long unnecessary hospital stays and that length of stay, uncovered, would be astronomical.
 
  • #272
Do we know it was a months stay? The article suggests she left after 4 days and returned to Knoxville. I had wondered if this was a typo as 4 days seems very short.
 
  • #273
Re why KM has come forward now was suggested in the article and his statement on Facebook as being in regard to statements made by MM in the custody hearing. He was informed of what she had said by the reporter recently. He was not aware of it when contacted by the detective. It seems to be to debunk her claims that she has not been treated for bipolar since she was 17.
 
  • #274
Do we know it was a months stay? The article suggests she left after 4 days and returned to Knoxville. I had wondered if this was a typo as 4 days seems very short.

Apologies, I said a month but it seems she left for Ireland a month after her stay. So does this mean that immediately after leaving the hospital she answered the ad for the nanny position or was her email correspondence with Jason about the position prior to this. It takes more than a few weeks to organise a visa so I'm a bit in the dark about the time frames here. Going back to the article, he does speak to mollys defence by saying she was never violent and was at her happiest when looking after children. It's incredibly sad though that she loved being in the company of children and had a massive desire to have her own family but this was not to be. This in itself would effect any woman emotionally leaving aside existing mental health issues.
 
  • #275
Apologies, I said a month but it seems she left for Ireland a month after her stay. So does this mean that immediately after leaving the hospital she answered the ad for the nanny position or was her email correspondence with Jason about the position prior to this. It takes more than a few weeks to organise a visa so I'm a bit in the dark about the time frames here. Going back to the article, he does speak to mollys defence by saying she was never violent and was at her happiest when looking after children. It's incredibly sad though that she loved being in the company of children and had a massive desire to have her own family but this was not to be. This in itself would effect any woman emotionally leaving aside existing mental health issues.

I wondered about this too....I think it is unlikely that she was off her meds for the entire time that she was in Ireland. One could even argue that the hospital did it's job, regulated her meds and allowed her to have a 'fresh start' in Ireland. Finally she has found a combination of drugs that helps her to manage her diagnosis, she is happy with her life, settled
and a relationship develops between herself and Jason. You could push this theory as far as they chose to move back to the US to cement the dream and bingo Molly has FINALLY got the life her and her parents had always dreamed of for her. The children were young when she started to care for them, so it is very possible that this was enough to fill the void and placate her for awhile. But the children were growing older, Jack was heading towards his teenage years, they were both becoming more independent. This would have thrown that stability into chaos, those children were her life. Perhaps she decided that the solution would be to try for a baby of her own with Jason? If so, it is quite possible that she decided to reduce her meds, particularly if she believed these were the reason for her miscarrying. (If this was failing, it may also offer reasoning for her fat shaming Jason as excess weight can cause fertility problems in men?) She seems to try to resolve her issues by manipulation rather than reason, perhaps the level of rage on that fateful night was frusatration at the result of all of her carefully laid plans falling to pieces? IMO
 
  • #276
Emory on its website states it only has 18 beds on its Psych ward. As the top Psych facility, I doubt they hospitalize a patient that can be treated as an outpatient. Once again, the situation must be justified to insurance carrier who will foot the bill.

Yet Molly got a bed.

Also, considering the amount of medications her EX says she was on at the time, there is no way that all her pysch issues and medication issues could just disappear with a 4 day stay. It is obscene that her family allowed her to set off to Ireland so soon after this crisis. If anything she should have been medically "followed" by her primary psychiatrist.

All my opinions.
 
  • #277
Emory on its website states it only has 18 beds on its Psych ward. As the top Psych facility, I doubt they hospitalize a patient that can be treated as an outpatient. Once again, the situation must be justified to insurance carrier who will foot the bill.

Yet Molly got a bed.

Also, considering the amount of medications her EX says she was on at the time, there is no way that all her pysch issues and medication issues could just disappear with a 4 day stay. It is obscene that her family allowed her to set off to Ireland so soon after this crisis. If anything she should have been medically "followed" by her primary psychiatrist.

All my opinions.
I agree.
We now know....
mm parents were aware of her mental health issues.
Mm ex fiance was painfully aware of her mental health issues.
Jason was aware of mm mental health issues.
Mm in laws were aware of her mental health issues.
Jason's friends and colleagues workers discussed same issues with Jason.

But we are all to believe that she doesn't really have any mental health issues and isn't nor hasn't been on medication for any in over 8 years.

Prosecution are hopefully going to tear her lies apart with every medical record they can find. And in my opinion there will be a trail of them anywhere she has been. Keith Maginns concerns about the children and the fact he came forward with them in mind cements my opinion that he is a genuine guy. Just another one of mm victims in her trail of destruction.



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  • #278
I agree.
We now know....
mm parents were aware of her mental health issues.
Mm ex fiance was painfully aware of her mental health issues.
Jason was aware of mm mental health issues.
Mm in laws were aware of her mental health issues.
Jason's friends and colleagues workers discussed same issues with Jason.

But we are all to believe that she doesn't really have any mental health issues and isn't nor hasn't been on medication for any in over 8 years.

Prosecution are hopefully going to tear her lies apart with every medical record they can find. And in my opinion there will be a trail of them anywhere she has been. Keith Maginns concerns about the children and the fact he came forward with them in mind cements my opinion that he is a genuine guy. Just another one of mm victims in her trail of destruction.



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I'm sorry, but how is the prosecution going to use her medical history?...I'm not saying they won't but I'm having trouble understanding how its proves their case...
 
  • #279
I'd say that you yourself answered it. She was happiest when she had children. She built her world around JC and SC and then someone threatened that. Somebody was going to ruin it and take away the only thing she wanted, I would dare say the only thing she felt she had accomplished.
 
  • #280
I'm sorry, but how is the prosecution going to use her medical history?...I'm not saying they won't but I'm having trouble understanding how its proves their case...
It will hopefully prove that she has lied under oath regarding her medical history ??

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