GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #8

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Does anyone have the link the article, describing MM sobbing when Megs Corbett was talked about? Thanks in advance
 
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Does anyone have the link the article, describing MM sobbing when Megs Corbett was talked about? Thanks in advance
Irish Daily Mail*4 Aug 2017

MOLLY SHAKES AND SOBS AT MEN*TION OF JA*SON’S KIDSMur*der ac*cused breaks down as Ja*son’s sis*ter tells ju*rors about chil*dren’s mother Mags

MOLLY SHAKES AND SOBS AT MEN*TION OF JA*SON’S KIDS

Mur*der ac*cused breaks down as Ja*son’s sis*ter tells ju*rors about chil*dren’s mother Mags+8 moreBy Cather*ine Fe*gan Chief Cor*re*spon*dent

MOLLY Martens shook and sobbed un*con*trol*lably in court yes*ter*day when her sis*ter-in-law told ju*rors the name of Jack and Sarah Cor*bett’s mother Mags. Dur*ing the sec*ond week of ev*i*dence in the trial of Ja*son Cor*bett’s wife Fa*ther-in-law, his sis*ter Tracey Lynch took the stand to tes*tify for the pros*e*cu*tion. When she men*tioned Mags Cor*bett, the late mother of Ja*son’s chil*dren, Ms Martens be*gan cry*ing audibly.

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‘Who was Jack and Sarah’s mother?’ asked prose*cu*tor Ina Stan*ton. ‘Mags Cor*bett,’ Mrs Lynch replied.

At this point, Ms Martens was over*come by emo*tion in her seat, rock*ing, cry*ing and snif*fling au*di*bly.

‘What is your le*gal sta*tus with re*gard to Jack and Sarah Cor*bett?’ con*tin*ued Ms Stan*ton. ‘My hus*band and I are the le*gal guardians of Jack and Sarah Cor*bett,’ said Mrs Lynch. Again, on the left hand*side of the room, Ms Martens be*gan to shake and cry.

https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/irish-daily-mail/20170804/textview

Apologies, I don't know why it pastes all the asterisks!

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  • #284
https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/irish-daily-mail/20170804/textview

Apologies, I don't know why it pastes all the asterisks!

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In my opinion she only cried, because a room full of people were reminded MM is not the kids mother. She was never their biological mother. She showed again how selfish she is. MM's character is very questionable. She has no remorse for her actions that led to Jason's death, however she wants Jason's children's statements to free her, she wants Jason's children. She wants Jason's money. When since August 1, 2015 has MM put the children's needs first?
 
  • #285
IMO NC Jury's do not have a problem convicting a spouse in high profiles cases. Just look at the [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Nimbus Sans L, Arial, Liberation Sans, sans-serif]Case of author Michael Peterson

[/FONT]On October 10, 2003, after one of the longest trials in North Carolina history, a Durham County jury found Michael Peterson guilty of the murder of Kathleen Peterson,[SUP][13][/SUP] and he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.[SUP][14][/SUP][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Nimbus Sans L, Arial, Liberation Sans, sans-serif]
. [/FONT]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Peterson_(murder_suspect)
 
  • #286
The statement is of limited use.

That is all it is - a statement.

it does not represent proof.

it is still a case of " he said he said" and who people wish to believe.

After the physical injuries evidence I was convinced that both TM and MM would be found guilty but I am not so sure now - the prosecution did not prove anything beyond reasonable doubt, in my opinion. We still don't even know what transpired that night.

Brilliant. Poor man. And very intelligent to do so imo.

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  • #287
I wonder if they have interviewed the woman who was hosting the dinner party. I wonder, considering what a social faux pas it would be to cancel on the day of her party, if they asked her what excuse was made.

This...and the numerous en route phone calls from MM do seem to indicate something major was afoot. TM had skipped the Washington trip not wanting to be in JC's company...now he's jumping in the car to go down there.

Isn't it odd that he would bring a bat when plans changed so quickly. Hardly when you'd be thinking of a gift.

And when he hears arguing, he takes thar bat upstairs.
 
  • #288
The statement is of limited use.

That is all it is - a statement.

it does not represent proof.

it is still a case of " he said he said" and who people wish to believe.

After the physical injuries evidence I was convinced that both TM and MM would be found guilty but I am not so sure now - the prosecution did not prove anything beyond reasonable doubt, in my opinion. We still don't even know what transpired that night.

We know what happened to Jason.

We know what did NOT happen to either of them.

We know from the blood spatter that any one of the layered fractures would have made JC unconscious.

We know that JC's head slid down the wall toward the floor and the bat was still swinging, sometimes hitting the wall.

We often don't know why. Why would Scott Peterson have killed his lovely pregnant wife? We sometimes never know why. And the Prosecution dies not have to find out why for us.

Why didn't they stop?...

Alll that really matters is that THEY DID NOT STOP.

NC law is clear on how far you can go in self defense.
 
  • #289
Regarding unpredictability, the very first trial I moderated for Websleuths left all of us stunned. It was the Caylee Anthony case. There was overwhelming evidence against Casey Anthony and the jury acquitted her. I never recovered from that one.

I don't know, irishmartin, if I believe JC was drugged with the small trace amounts in his system. But then I am not knowledgeable about pharmaceuticals.

I give you a lot of credit Harmony2 for being a moderator, I'd find it quite hard to read all the details of violence and tragedy.
 
  • #290
The statement is of limited use.

That is all it is - a statement.

it does not represent proof.

it is still a case of " he said he said" and who people wish to believe.

After the physical injuries evidence I was convinced that both TM and MM would be found guilty but I am not so sure now - the prosecution did not prove anything beyond reasonable doubt, in my opinion. We still don't even know what transpired that night.
I disagree. It's useful to know that tm is the kind of man that would lie about what a deceased man said and where he said it and then go on to insult the deceased man while giving testimony in his trial for beating his son in law to death with his daughter.

The statement if nothing else as my post said suggests that MR.F was educated enough to know that the martens were liars so it contradicts the really disgusting remark that tm made about him on the stand.

Imo we might not nor do we need to know what occured that night TM cantbeven remember parts of it funnily enough !
But we do know what became of Jason, no matter what way you look at it or who people support its hard to deny the overkill. Only thing that hasn't stood up in court is the history of DV mm imo spent so many months cultivating.

Jmo

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  • #291
In my opinion she only cried, because a room full of people were reminded MM is not the kids mother. She was never their biological mother. She showed again how selfish she is. MM's character is very questionable. She has no remorse for her actions that led to Jason's death, however she wants Jason's children's statements to free her, she wants Jason's children. She wants Jason's money. When since August 1, 2015 has MM put the children's needs first?
True. All the tears in the world won't win the jurors over imo unless they are cried for her crime and her murdered husband.....so far no tears for him the man who blessed her life with those kids.

Jmo

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Nothing I have read so far has given any indication as to who made the initial call in the morning or even calls from the previous days. TM is sticking with his story that it was his bright idea to visit them when he woke up on the morning of the 1st of August.

Ben Coley was asked this yesterday on twitter and answered that they were due to attend a dinner party, another couple cancelled so they decided to cancel too and go visit the Corbett's. Seeing as the prosecution haven't called the other dinner party subjects to contradict this claim one can only presume that it checks out.

[FONT=&quot]https://twitter.com/LexDispatchBC/status/893596548277448704[/FONT]
 
  • #294
The 66-year-old gave dramatic testimony as he took the stand yesterday where he was accused of using his FBI training and legal qualifications to try and ‘outwit’ detectives investigating the murder of his son-in-law.....It was later heard that Mr Martens had ‘no knowledge’ of a brick found in the master bedroom where father-of-two Jason Corbett was killed, of it being used as a weapon and that he didn’t see his daughter using any brick on the night Mr Corbett died......
The trial also heard that Jason’s wife Molly is the sole beneficiary of a $600,000 insurance policy in her name....
The father of four from Knoxville, Tennessee, told the court in North Carolina that he had never witnessed Mr Corbett being physically violent toward his daughter before that night.....
In relation to ‘baton training’ he had received, he was asked to identify which parts of the body should be struck to ‘bring a man down’.
He said the ankle, the knees or the kidneys. The prosecution contended that a baseball bat is similar to a baton and should have been used in that way.....
Greg Brown, for the prosecution, told the court that during an interview conducted by two detectives investigating Mr Corbett’s death, Mr Martens ‘interrupted questioning and took charge’.
He had already told the two men that he had a long career in the FBI and that he ‘really enjoyed outwitting’ other spy agencies. In an earlier role, he liked ‘kicking in doors and arresting people’, the trial heard. Mr Brown said that at one point during interview, the defendant said: ‘Perhaps it would be helpful if I just launched into a story that would account for my state of mind.’.....
Mr Martens said Jason had told him he intended to make Molly the ‘adoptive mother’ of his children, Jack and Sarah. But this never happened, he said, and it was a source of strain. He said he was aware of the fact his daughter was the beneficiary of Mr Corbett’s insurance policy, worth $600,000......
~ Catherine Fegan - Full story on Irish Daily Mail newspaper or online App Irish Mail Plus

https://www.facebook.com/TheIrishMail/posts/1941723026085239

Some interview, eh???
I am reminded of a viper snake
 
  • #295
Martens said that Molly’s body went from “wiggling” to “limp” in Jason’s choke hold as he dragged her toward the master bathroom. Mr. Martens said he stayed close so that Mr. Corbett could not close the bathroom door and leave him outside of the room.

Is this guy serious? "Wiggling" to limp" if she was limp would she have not fell to the ground when released ?
When jason let go of her her father says she shouted "don't hit my dad" and retreated to the bedside wall ??

Was she limp tm or was she shouting and retreating and by the way he is saying she was "limp going down the hallway so by the time she came back up the hallway in the headlock, j wrestled tm for bat, TM fell on the floor would she not be dead? TM might think he is clever and educated but imo his testimony makes him look dumb

http://www.wxii12.com/article/defendant-thomas-martens-takes-the-stand-in-murder-trial/11557306



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  • #296
Ben Coley was asked this yesterday on twitter and answered that they were due to attend a dinner party, another couple cancelled so they decided to cancel too and go visit the Corbett's. Seeing as the prosecution haven't called the other dinner party subjects to contradict this claim one can only presume that it checks out.

[FONT="]https://twitter.com/LexDispatchBC/status/893596548277448704[/FONT]

I'm assuming that it was just a week ago when Jason's brother was visiting, that SM traveled to Washington DC alone to see the family. There was testimony that TM said he wouldn't waste vacation time visiting that blank.

Yet just days later he and SM decide to change their plans and drive 4 hours to see that "blank" and golf with him? TM was still working at that time. He would have had to drive 4 hours back the next day.

Then add MM's frequent calls

Knowing that TM is an easy liar, I truly doubt this story. Perhaps it's just one detail, no one checked.
And if I were the hostess and had prepared dinner for 6...I would be insulted that the Martens bailed on my party too...with no good excuse. Among my circle of friends, this is much more repulsive social behavior than whatever "rowdiness" happened among a happy group of friends the night before a wedding.
 
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One thing seems certain the father is taking the blame. He wants the daughter to keep the 500k paid out to her (motive enough) So he is suggesting he hit the man in the hallway when the man had his daughter in a headlock. But it didn't work, so he kept hitting a man with baseball bat till he stopped wriggling.

There could be blood splatter on the walls then if it happened there. Either way he was trained in dealing with aggressive people by the F.B.I. Who do not seem to have an opinion either way, after 31 years of service.

If the man, any man, had his daughter by the throats then surely her could break his leg at the knee. He was in the FBI but doesn't grab his gun. You could shoot a man in the knee.

This is a guy married to your daughter. There is no history of threatening behaviour such as this, but you decide you need to kill him. None of this makes sense. It can't of course because it isn't true. We could be talking about two sociopaths here....


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One thing seems certain the father is taking the blame. He wants the daughter to keep the 500k paid out to her (motive enough) So he is suggesting he hit the man in the hallway when the man had his daughter in a headlock. But it didn't work, so he kept hitting a man with baseball bat till he stopped wriggling.

There could be blood splatter on the walls then if it happened there. Either way he was trained in dealing with aggressive people by the F.B.I. Who do not seem to have an opinion either way, after 31 years of service.

If the man, any man, had his daughter by the throats then surely her could break his leg at the knee. He was in the FBI but doesn't grab his gun. You could shoot a man in the knee.

This is a guy married to your daughter. There is no history of threatening behaviour such as this, but you decide you need to kill him. None of this makes sense. It can't of course because it isn't true. We could be talking about two sociopaths here....


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You make excellent points. Plus why did TM not mention the paving stone on the 911 call? Why did MM not run for help? Why did SM hide in the basement? There is no logical reason for SM to not call 911?

In my opinion both TM and MM show sociopath tendencies. Will MM's mental health issues be addressed? Will SM take the stand? How could SM, TM, or MM believe they had rights to Jason's children?
 
  • #299
Mr Freedman said Mr Martens instructed Mr Corbett to release Ms Martens-Corbett.
"[But Mr Corbett said:] I'm sorry - I shouldn't be doing this," he said.
However, he said Mr Corbett then put his entire arm around his wife's throat.

"I am going to kill her," Mr Freedman said the Irishman replied.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...artens-before-fight-trial-hears-35968833.html

what happened to this alleged statement?

Where was it yesterday?

Did they change their minds about including it when the false allegation regarding MF was not allowed?

Wish we had a transcript when we could unweave every single word..

Its utterly blatant!
Its outrageous.
 
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Mr Freedman said Mr Martens instructed Mr Corbett to release Ms Martens-Corbett.
"[But Mr Corbett said:] I'm sorry - I shouldn't be doing this," he said.
However, he said Mr Corbett then put his entire arm around his wife's throat.

"I am going to kill her," Mr Freedman said the Irishman replied.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...artens-before-fight-trial-hears-35968833.html

what happened to this alleged statement?

Where was it yesterday?

Did they change their minds about including it when the false allegation regarding MF was not allowed?

Wish we had a transcript when we could unweave every single word..

Its utterly blatant!
Its outrageous.
Yes we need transcripts or at least good reliable relay of info. He was on the stand for 3 hours and we only have a handful of questions/answers it's frustrating.

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