NC NC - Jenna Nielsen, 22, pregnant, Raleigh, 14 June 2007

Bumping up for Jenna and her baby!

Does anyone have any news about this case? I keep wondering how many pregnant, murdered women are now turning into cold cases in North Carolina !!

This young mom really tugs at my heart in a special way. Maybe because she is one of the few who I don't think was killed by her husband.
 
The only thing I could find for an update was the 9/25/07 edition of the Observer (local paper) from when her billboard went up-
"Police chief Harry Patrick Dolan and several members of the police department's major crimes unit were also present.
Police Maj. Ken Mathias said investigators are closer than they were three months ago to solving the case with the return of DNA tests and other forensic evidence.
"We are confident that in the future we will have resolved this case," Mathias said."

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/715465.html
 
The only thing I could find for an update was the 9/25/07 edition of the Observer (local paper) from when her billboard went up-
"Police chief Harry Patrick Dolan and several members of the police department's major crimes unit were also present.
Police Maj. Ken Mathias said investigators are closer than they were three months ago to solving the case with the return of DNA tests and other forensic evidence.
"We are confident that in the future we will have resolved this case," Mathias said."

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/715465.html

Thank you for posting this, Believe!! :)
 
Thanks for the update. I hope this case will be solved soon!
 
Bumping up this thread for Jenna, her baby and her other children.

Jenna, my prayers for justice in your and your baby's murder, and wishes for the best possible Christmas for your little children.
 
Link to autopsy report again:
http://ncstormtrack.com/asset/news/local/2007/07/19/1611226/1184859841_JennaNielsenAutopsyReport.swf

It sounds like she was pushed down or fell in the struggle, initially landing on her right knee and left shin (possibly hitting her nose) (causing abrasion) and then was either pushed back and land on her elbows (bilateral abrasions) -or- was forced to turn over and then her elbow got abrasions.
I really don't think the husband is involved in this, the DNA from the fingernail scrappings would have ruled him out. I wish they could tell us the gender of the suspect from the fingernail scrapings found under her nails.
That would help a lot.
It said in the report that there were also 3 linear red abrasions measuring .6" in length each separated by a distance of 0.1" on the left elbow that were associated by the contusion to the left elbow. If each of the 3 abrasions were equally spaced apart, i wonder what they were caused by.
Also she had her naval (belly button) pierced while pregnant, which leads me to think that she was one of those women who don't show pregnancy as much as others. If she was very pregnant looking in appearance, i doubt she would have kept in the naval piercing, as it may have been uncomfortable. My sister was 115lbs when pregnant with her 3rd child. Some women just don't show it as much as others..
The stab wound was on the front left side of her neck if i am correct. It may be possible with a right handed suspect, he/she stabbed her from behind or at an angle of being on the side. It would be hard for a right handed person standing in front of her to get the left side of the neck as such.
I hope they find the killer, at least it will give her family closure on knowing the person isn't loose out there somewhere.
At this point, i have no idea what to make of the suspect sketch.. if she was found with hair in her hand, then she was able to pull the suspect's hair; i just wish with the DNA they could tell us if we're looking for a male or female suspect..
My prayers for her family this Christmas...
 
I wish they would put out more information, as much as they can without jeopardizing the case.
I believed for a long time that the perp was her husband, but I think I was confused about some of the details. Now, it really doesn't seem like it could be him.
I still believe that it was odd that her father, not her husband, was the main speaker at the press conference...and there's something about Jenna's husband that bothers me, but maybe it's just a personal thing. Maybe the Dad just has more of a "take-charge" personality.
 
Bumping up for Jenna.
Such a sweet smile. I wish I could have known you, Jenna.
I hope there's justice for you and your baby very soon.

Maria
 
Link to autopsy report again:
http://ncstormtrack.com/asset/news/local/2007/07/19/1611226/1184859841_JennaNielsenAutopsyReport.swf

It sounds like she was pushed down or fell in the struggle, initially landing on her right knee and left shin (possibly hitting her nose) (causing abrasion) and then was either pushed back and land on her elbows (bilateral abrasions) -or- was forced to turn over and then her elbow got abrasions.
I really don't think the husband is involved in this, the DNA from the fingernail scrappings would have ruled him out. I wish they could tell us the gender of the suspect from the fingernail scrapings found under her nails.
That would help a lot.
It said in the report that there were also 3 linear red abrasions measuring .6" in length each separated by a distance of 0.1" on the left elbow that were associated by the contusion to the left elbow. If each of the 3 abrasions were equally spaced apart, i wonder what they were caused by.
Also she had her naval (belly button) pierced while pregnant, which leads me to think that she was one of those women who don't show pregnancy as much as others. If she was very pregnant looking in appearance, i doubt she would have kept in the naval piercing, as it may have been uncomfortable. My sister was 115lbs when pregnant with her 3rd child. Some women just don't show it as much as others..
The stab wound was on the front left side of her neck if i am correct. It may be possible with a right handed suspect, he/she stabbed her from behind or at an angle of being on the side. It would be hard for a right handed person standing in front of her to get the left side of the neck as such.
I hope they find the killer, at least it will give her family closure on knowing the person isn't loose out there somewhere.
At this point, i have no idea what to make of the suspect sketch.. if she was found with hair in her hand, then she was able to pull the suspect's hair; i just wish with the DNA they could tell us if we're looking for a male or female suspect..
My prayers for her family this Christmas...

Jenna's case haunts me so.
I am no medical expert, but this is what I wonder about when I read the autopsy report.
My take on the sequence of events are that not only was she stabbed in the neck from behind because her left earlobe was nicked and the autopsy report states the cut was made from posterior to anterior and left to right, but there is evidence of manual strangulation from the occular vessel hemorrhages. An antemortem cranial bleed is also present, again on the left side, parietal lobe. ( close to the ear).
Was the head injury caused by a spontaneous fall after being either strangled or stabbed, was she pushed down, or hit on the head with a blunt object? Perhaps kicked in the head while on the ground during the assault? ( parking lot behind convenience store causing abrasions at the same time?) The linear abrasions described seem to be pavement burns from either a hard fall or from being dragged a short distance on the parking lot to me.. She may have been conscious and was attempting to break her fall at that time, or fight back, not sure which. The abrasions to her nose suggest that her head was hit hard while she was down. Her hair remained in its ponytail holder, or it was replaced in the ponytail holder after death, which I doubt since her pants were not pulled back up. I have read that it is common for rapists to look for women with long hair, because the hair is used to grab the woman, and to hold her. I find it unusual that her ponytail holder was intact with her hair described as being pulled back in it.

Why is one mark on her leg described as being brown in color? Scab or old bruise? Maybe not associated with crime scene but with struggling with bundles of newspapers days before or from an accidental kick from her child?

Also, it seems to me that for her stomach to contain 220 ml of blood,( approx. 8 ounces or 1 cup) from the stab wound which involved the oropharnyx ( throat) from left to right that she swallowed quite a bit of blood. This also suggests to me that she died face up, despite the abrasions on her face. If her head was facing down, she would have spit out the blood, if conscious, or it would have drained out by gravity instead of going into her stomach.
The last thing I suspect from the autopsy report is that once she was stabbed, she died quickly from the stab wound. The lack of meconium in the amniotic fluid supports lack of sustained fetal distress. Jenna sustained 3 different, potentially fatal wounds: strangulation, a head injury, then the fatal stabbing. If she died quickly from exsanguination within minutes after the arterial neck stab wound, her baby would have died quickly too. Usually, if there is a sustained hypoxic state in the fetus, he would have released meconium. The amniotic fluid was described as serous fluid without meconium staining.
She bled from:
1) capilliaries in her eyes and mucosa- evidence of manual strangulation.
2) Lacerations on legs, elbows and nose.
3) Head injury
4) Stab wound left to right neck involving carotid artery and the soft tissues of the throat.Obviously, the massive and fatal bleed.
I think she suffered from multiple assaults for a period of time in the parking lot for there to be this many different types of injuries present with bleeding.

Incidentals:
With regards to the comments about the umbilical piercing- I don't find the umbilical or tongue piercings to have any significance. It should be noted that no ring or ornamentation was seen or removed from the umbilical piercing. The other piercings had jewelry and it was removed and noted in the AR.

Does anyone have any knowledge related to her tattoos? The AR stated that there were spiral tattoos on both wrists. ( OUCH).
How usual are the spiral tattoos on her wrists? Do they have a meaning? And do the strings on her wrists have any ritualistic meaning? I am familiar with different colored strings or knotted yarn associated with those who study the Kaballah, but since her religion was stated as Mormonism, I was wondering if maybe there was another meaning to the tattoos and or the wrist strings.

I mean no disrespect in discussing aspects of the condition of her body as related in the autopsy which are not wounds. I have wanted to post about this for a while but was reluctant to out of respect for her and her family. To anyone who reads this, I seek to understand what happened to Jenna, and wonder if perhaps there are clues regarding the people she and her husband hung out with close to the time of her death with regards to the decorating of her wrists with both tattoos and strings. The tattoos could have been old, from early teens, but the wrist strings would have been recent additions.

As you can see from the hour I am posting this, Jenna is on my mind in the wee hours of the night.
Maria
 
I wonder if LE even have any suspects? I remember when this happened and it was just horrible. Such a pretty young lady and so close to having her baby. Who could do such a terrible thing to her? I just can't imagine why they would do it. They took two lives without a thought. Were they after money? That must have been it. How much money did they think someone delivering newspapers would have with them? I hope the person is found soon and maybe Jenna's husband and family can manage to find some peace.
 
I doubt the spiral tattoos have any meaning if you are talking gang signifigance. They probably had a meaning personally to Jenna. Wrist strings i am not sure about.. How many strings was she wearing on her wrists and were they single strings or braided bracelet type things?

Maybe her husband doesn't think it was random if either
A. he thinks it's a serial killer who's been killing pregnant women in NC
B. It is gang or family related somehow and he is afraid to talk about it; he knows something yet has been threatened so is afraid to speak up
 
I doubt the spiral tattoos have any meaning if you are talking gang signifigance. They probably had a meaning personally to Jenna. Wrist strings i am not sure about.. How many strings was she wearing on her wrists and were they single strings or braided bracelet type things?

Maybe her husband doesn't think it was random if either
A. he thinks it's a serial killer who's been killing pregnant women in NC
B. It is gang or family related somehow and he is afraid to talk about it; he knows something yet has been threatened so is afraid to speak up

Funny you bring the wrist items up. I stayed up for hours last night looking at all the full length photos I could find, mostly the wedding photos. She wore heavy brown colored braided leather bracelets over her inner wrist tattoos. I know that what I am seeing are not the tattoos, because there are closeups which show them in different positions, sometimes almost sliding completely off the tattoos underneath, and there is a dimension of thickness to the bracelets which wouldn't be present with the tattoos. The bracelets look very out of place with her wedding gown.

Also, she is making a hand gesture in one shot which I am unfamiliar with, and I know that hand signals are common in some girl gangs. It may be a family signal, or something as innocent as a way to say hello, I don't know because I am not familiar with it.
I have seen photos of silver bracelets worn with the leather bracelets as well. Since the autopsy report does not list the leather braided items, I tend to think she was wearing them mostly for the wedding. It would have been sweet if someone took her to a mall store like Claire's for cheap multiple strand fake pearl bracelets.

Anyway, I cannot find any photo of the strings around her wrists.
I am 90% certain that they were not any type of restraint or ligature, but were her own items. My knowlege is limited to the practioners of the study of Kaballah. Madonna wears or wore these things for a while, not sure about now, as do people in the general population who are disciples of Kaballahism.
Somehow, I think the meaning was not the same for Jenna.

Also of note is that there may be a ligature missing. She was manually strangled at some point during the assault which led to her stabbing death. I don't know if the murderer used her missing blouse or top, a traditional ligature device or his ( or her) hands.
I have not seen this discussed here prior to my finding of the manual strangulation in the autopsy report. I could have missed it somewhere, but I would be interested to know if the knife wound obliterated the strangulation marks in the front. If so, what about postmortem findings on the posterior neck? The autopsy doesn't address this at all, that I could find.
However, the facts as written are that she was strangled long and hard enough to sustain multiple areas of petechial hemorrhaging and an autopsy finding of manual asphysia ( manual choking or strangulation from a device, not from her throat/ neck knife wounds).

Sorry to present 2 puzzles to work on, but I think both are significant.

I also listened to the 911 call several times, and can't help but wonder how the guy who called it in knew that she was the usual, regular USA Today carrier, but didn't know that the heavily pregnant and generally petite woman was a She. He referred to her as HE several times and stated how he happened to be in the area multiple times. It was almost like a type of guilty knowledge to keep repeating why he was there..
 
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... The Red String protects us from the influences of the Evil Eye. Evil eye is a very powerful negative force. It refers to the unfriendly stare and unkind glances we sometimes get from people around us. Envious eyes and looks of ill will affect us, stopping us from realizing our full potential in every area of our life...

The Red String has been used as a tool of protection for centuries. The practice, developed by the sages, involves winding the red string around the tomb of the great Matriarch, Rachel located in the Land of Israel. The string is then cut it into pieces and worn on the left wrist. The left hand is considered by Kabbalah to be the receiving side for the body and soul. By wearing The Red String on our left wrist, we can receive a vital connection to the protective energies surrounding the tomb of Rachel. It also allows us to take Rachel's powerful protective energy with us and draw from it anytime...
Instructions

Have someone you love to tie the Red String to your left wrist. First, have them tie the string closely around your wrist with a simple knot. Repeat by knotting the string six more times for a total of seven knots. Now make a promise to yourself that you will refrain from negative thoughts or talk about others. This harmful behavior will interfere with your effort to gain personal fulfillment and protection. Then have the person finish by saying the Ben Porat Prayer (read from right to left) which prevents others from giving us the evil eye.
 
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Its purpose is twofold: to protect us from the envious looks of others, and to help us eliminate feelings of jealousy and resentment in ourselves. The technology is the Red String: a strand of Red wool worn around the left wrist...

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How the Kabbalah Red String Works
Worn around the left wrist, the Kabbalah Red String works in the same way as the vaccines of modern medicine. When we receive a vaccination against a disease, a weakened strain of the illness is integrated into the vaccine. Spiritual immunizations are based on a similar principle. Kabbalah teaches that colors have specific frequencies and energies. Red, for example, is the color of danger. By binding a Red String to ourselves in a very specific manner, we shield ourselves against the dangerous negativity that might be directed our way, a spiritual vaccine against the destructive forces of the Evil Eye.
 
Here's something else interesting but I can't find much about it:

Religious brazillizn red string on right wrist wraped three time to make wishes".? - Yahoo! Answers

well, that is called fitinha do Senhor do Bonfim, it is a tradition in the state of Bahia, northeast of Brazil.
they say you should wear it until it falls off, that is when your wishes are supposed to come true.
it is for free there, you will get tons of strings (there are many different colors)... hehehe
I'm from Brazil.
=)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=fitinha+do+Senhor+do+Bonfim+tradition+brazil
 
Signs of Gang Involvement

Gangmembers also use hand signs to communicate with each other. Many gangs have created their own sign language and use it to secretly communicate with each other.

Gang members have also used jewelry to show membership in the group. The most commonly used jewelry is a string of beads in a specific color pattern that is worn either on a wrist or around a member’s neck...
 
Signs of Gang Involvement

Gangmembers also use hand signs to communicate with each other. Many gangs have created their own sign language and use it to secretly communicate with each other.

Gang members have also used jewelry to show membership in the group. The most commonly used jewelry is a string of beads in a specific color pattern that is worn either on a wrist or around a member’s neck...

I'm showing my age here, but do you remember when Sophia on "Golden Girls" used to curse someone and make a hand sign of the evil eye?

It appears to me that in at least one photo online of Jenna, she is making this sign, or something extremely close to it...

Thank you for your work and posts Jersey. :)
 
This came up in a search; I didn't specifically search for red string but the last one was interesting:

Red string - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Red string

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Red string may be:
  • Worn on the left wrist, a single red string with seven knots is associated with Kabbalah; worn on the right wrist without the multiple knots, it is associated with Hinduism (called Kalava) and Buddhism. Alternately, white string is also seen in Buddhism. (See the talk page for more on red string in the context of Buddhism.) The red string is increasingly being associated with Christian symbolism as well, probably as an advent of the popularization of Jewish Kabbalah and the Church of England's recent efforts to reinvigorate the church with the young.
  • The sacred Hindu red string called Kalava.
  • Wearing a red string wrapped twice around the left wrist is used as a secret indicator between people that are anorexic or are pro-anorexia. To disguise it as a normal bracelet, girls like to add beads or hang butterfly charms from them. (Butterflies being a popular emblem of anorexia amongst girls.) Bulimics wear blue string; a combination anorexic-bulimic would wear purple string.
  • Red String, a manga-style webcomic
  • The red string of fate, a Japanese belief similar to the concept of a soulmate
  • Women in western cultures are using red string as part of Blessingway or Mother blessing ceremonies - the red string is wound around the participants and then cut and worn until the pregnant mother is in labour or gives birth, to symbolise the groups togetherness and to remind participants to send their thoughts and wishes to the pregnant mother.
 
I'm showing my age here, but do you remember when Sophia on "Golden Girls" used to curse someone and make a hand sign of the evil eye?

It appears to me that in at least one photo online of Jenna, she is making this sign, or something extremely close to it...

Thank you for your work and posts Jersey. :)
I remember the Golden Girls so if you're old, at least you're not alone!

I have to run for now but I'm intrigued by this. The wrist tattoos are also common in gangs as is the desire to remove them or cover them when you no longer want to associate with the gang. I'm going to check around more later.

Do you have links to the pictures you were viewing? I'm interested in seeing what you're referring to so I'll know if I see it somewhere in my searches. Also, what color are the strings on her wrist(s) and are they on one or both wrists?
 
Anyway, I cannot find any photo of the strings around her wrists.
I am 90% certain that they were not any type of restraint or ligature, but were her own items. My knowlege is limited to the practioners of the study of Kaballah. Madonna wears or wore these things for a while, not sure about now, as do people in the general population who are disciples of Kaballahism.
Somehow, I think the meaning was not the same for Jenna.
From what I'm reading so far, the string would only be red and it would only be around the left wrist. Also, it would be one string knotted seven times. This is basically just a summary of what I've cut & pasted above.
 

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