GUILTY NC - Laura Ackerson, 27, Kinston, 13 July 2011 #2

[borndem]

The children are with Grant's mother, right? I remember she took them and she owns a daycare or something. So sad for those kids. What a mess their dad is. You know the mother will always defend her son, she probably brings them to visit him if she can.

I live in Garner, about 15 mins from the courthouse.. I could totally go to court, I am nervous about it though.. I hope its just streaming so i can watch it here. My son is out of school in June and July anyways so that would be hard to get away for more than a couple hours.

Yes, C'Addict, as far as I know, GH's mother does have all the children now -- I was just wondering if the custody of the Ackerson children is legal. We have also heard bits & pieces about LA's dad trying to get custody of them, and along with that have heard about some type of other problems he has had -- so that, even in its fogginess, is a concern.

 

[Cherry]

Live Pretrial motion for the Haye's is airing live now on wral.:fence:

 

[NCEast]

They will be tried separately. Hers is still scheduled for May 20 and his has been rescheduled to August 26 or sooner. I can't wait!!

From WTVD a moment ago.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9074498

I meant to add that I still applaud law enforcement agencies in NC and Texas for their swift and accurate work on this case. It's almost unheard of these days to move that quickly and make an arrest.

 

[NCEast]

Video of this morning's hearing is here:

http://www.wral.com/news/video/12366987/#/vid12366987

I want to slap that smirk off of GH's face.

 

[NCEast]

In watching the live coverage of the hearing this morning, they are talking about a psych review that GH's had to go through with respect to the custody hearing with LA. I think I just heard AM's attorney say that the report indicated that GH is a psychopath and a sociopath. Ha, we already knew that.

 

[NCEast]

A few tidbits I gathered from the motion hearing so far. They are currently on a 30 minute recess and will continue.
1. GH's defense will be accident defense and/or self defense
2. AH's defense is that she was not there--she has alibi witnesses lined up and they must be named to the state by May 3
3. State has no rec'd psych reports on AH yet
4. Move AH from one jail to another closer to the courthouse IF her trial will begin on May 20. Seems that may still be up in the air.
5. Heresay determination involving a Michael M. person to which GH told him about dismembering LA on or about 6/20/11.
6. AH attorney to provide to state the letter from GH threatening her or contain threats
7. All 3 sides were saying they were not receiving discovery properly.

The word requination was tossed about a few times and I have never heard it before. Will check on definition in a moment.
I have a huge headache and I hope my notes are correct. This case appears to be fluid at the moment, even the trial date of May 20 for AH is still up in the air, so a lot may change.
7. All 3 sides were saying they were not receiving discovery properly.

 

[NCEast]

A few tidbits I gathered from the motion hearing so far. They are currently on a 30 minute recess and will continue.
1. GH's defense will be accident defense and/or self defense
2. AH's defense is that she was not there--she has alibi witnesses lined up and they must be named to the state by May 3
3. State has no rec'd psych reports on AH yet
4. Move AH from one jail to another closer to the courthouse IF her trial will begin on May 20. Seems that may still be up in the air.
5. Heresay determination involving a Michael M. person to which GH told him about dismembering LA on or about 6/20/11.
6. AH attorney to provide to state the letter from GH threatening her or contain threats
7. All 3 sides were saying they were not receiving discovery properly.

The word requination was tossed about a few times and I have never heard it before. Will check on definition in a moment.
I have a huge headache and I hope my notes are correct. This case appears to be fluid at the moment, even the trial date of May 20 for AH is still up in the air, so a lot may change.
7. All 3 sides were saying they were not receiving discovery properly.

 

[NCEast]

A few tidbits I gathered from the motion hearing so far. They are currently on a 30 minute recess and will continue.
1. GH's defense will be accident defense and/or self defense
2. AH's defense is that she was not there--she has alibi witnesses lined up and they must be named to the state by May 3
3. State has no rec'd psych reports on AH yet
4. Move AH from one jail to another closer to the courthouse IF her trial will begin on May 20. Seems that may still be up in the air.
5. Heresay determination involving a Michael M. person to which GH told him about dismembering LA on or about 6/20/11.
6. AH attorney to provide to state the letter from GH threatening her or contain threats
7. All 3 sides were saying they were not receiving discovery properly.

The word requination was tossed about a few times and I have never heard it before. Will check on definition in a moment.
I have a huge headache and I hope my notes are correct. This case appears to be fluid at the moment, even the trial date of May 20 for AH is still up in the air, so a lot may change.

 

[NCEast]

I'm so sorry for the triplicate posting. Don't know how that happened!

 

[NCEast]

Glee -- Yes, Boz is on this one! He's first chair, and IINM, it looks like Becky Holt, 2nd chair, but I could be mistaken. She didn't speak & she wasn't on camera very much.

WRAL said they would stream this trial if the principals were willing. And Judge Stephens, Boz & Becky (if it is indeed Becky) have been there & done that, so we'll see. Oh, I hope so!

----------------------------------------------------------
​

It's been so long since I've actually done anything on here I can't remember how. I ended up with 3 identical posts--but I promise I didn't do it--there must have been a glitch!
Trying to cut your quote down to Boz and Becky Holt. Yes, today's motion hearing had both with Boz handling what seemed like the details and Holt handling discovery issues. I think they will make a good team. I am praying they will make a good team--there can be no mistakes in this trail because the Hayes/Haze couple (who are not legally married after all) are both very sadistic and should never be allowed to walk among us ever again!

 

[borndem]

Glee -- Yes, Boz is on this one! He's first chair, and IINM, it looks like Becky Holt, 2nd chair, but I could be mistaken. She didn't speak & she wasn't on camera very much.

WRAL said they would stream this trial if the principals were willing. And Judge Stephens, Boz & Becky (if it is indeed Becky) have been there & done that, so we'll see. Oh, I hope so!

----------------------------------------------------------
​

It's been so long since I've actually done anything on here I can't remember how. I ended up with 3 identical posts--but I promise I didn't do it--there must have been a glitch!
Trying to cut your quote down to Boz and Becky Holt. Yes, today's motion hearing had both with Boz handling what seemed like the details and Holt handling discovery issues. I think they will make a good team. I am praying they will make a good team--there can be no mistakes in this trail because the Hayes/Haze couple (who are not legally married after all) are both very sadistic and should never be allowed to walk among us ever again!

BBM

"not legally married after all" -- What? Wow! Tell us more, East! What is this? Of course nothing about these ~~~~ would surprise me, but what's the story? Still <smh> !

Now that their trials have been separated & she has a pay-for-it good attorney, the sparks should fly. Every ~~~ for him- or herself!


And HiYa! :seeya:

 

[borndem]

Video of this morning's hearing is here:

http://www.wral.com/news/video/12366987/#/vid12366987

I want to slap that smirk off of GH's face.

bbm

You and me both, NCEast. Smack! Slap! Fwop! Off it goes. One day, maybe.

That arrogant esso bee will die with that smirk on his face, I'm convinced, East. Oh, his face makes me shake with anger and feelings even worse.

I would like to see that smirk droop a bit when a verdict of Guilty of Murder in the 1st Degree is announced as his verdict. Oh, let it happen thus.

Thanks a bunch, East for the link! Our good ol' WRAL!

 

[Cherry]

Basically the Judge agreed to the Motion to sever, the defendants will be tried separately.

 

[borndem]

Here is an article from this morning's newspaper, The News & Observer:

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/04...couple-accused-of.html#emlnl=Crime_and_Safety

 

[NCEast]

This just in---Grant Hayes to be tried FIRST in Ackerson murder case.

4/24/13 RALEIGH (WTVD) -- Wake County prosecutors announced Wednesday they will try Grant Hayes first in the 2011 murder of Kinston mother Laura Ackerson.
The move came after Superior Court Judge Donald Stephens said earlier this week that Hayes and his wife Amanda will be tried separately.
Grant Hayes trial date is set for August 26, but it could be moved up.
Ackerson's remains were found in Oyster Creek near Skinner Lane in Richmond, Texas July 2011. Identification was made through dental records days later. The 27-year-old was reported missing on July 18.
Texas deputies said they believed Ackerson was killed in North Carolina, and then dismembered, before her body was taken to Texas in coolers. The creek where the remains were found is near Amanda Hayes' sister's home.
During a 2011 court hearing, an assistant district attorney told a judge that Grant Hayes wanted Ackerson out of his life.
Ackerson and Hayes had been involved in a custody battle over their children for more than a year. Hayes was later granted primary custody in 2010.
Grant Hayes was a local musician in Raleigh.
Prosecutors said he legally changed the spelling of his last name from Hayes to Haze, so they now refer to him as "Grant Haze, a.k.a. Grant Hayes."

 

[cocomod]

Ugggghhhhh!! I can't stand either of these two! If he honestly tries to claim self-defense, I am going to :sick:

What also makes me sick is that Laura's children will grow up in an environment that likely will poison their little minds against their mommy. I doubt that his parents will teach them to love their mommy, miss their mommy, honor her memory. :sigh: The kids really lose here. :cry:

 

[borndem]

Well, East, it's disappointing that this trial isn't beginning NOW, but I do understand that the new def atty, Cutler, does need some time -- after his arrogant, bull-headed client refused to work with two previous attys, one after the other. (And what a pity that GH wasn't able to get "a black attorney from Durham." Ohhhh, he makes me grind my teeth & growl.

Of course, now that they will have separate trials, the prosecutors want to try GH first, with AH to follow. If she rolls on him, which it sounds like she will, they can weigh her testimony to see if she is telling the truth (they really won't know except what can be proved, if anything) and if her testimony helps bury him, and they can give her a pre-agreed-upon sentence that will be very favorable to her -- unless her involvement was too direct and independent from GH. But they should at least have a good idea about that now -- seems like her attys (paid-for by her now -- whence the money for this, BTW??) would have had pow-wows about this along with their client's telling her side of it.

So we wait....

 

[borndem]

Well, I guess it wouldn't be fair to leave out the WRAL article about the new arrangement for the Hayes trials:

Ex-boyfriend to be tried first in Ackerson murder

http://www.wral.com/ex-boyfriend-to-be-tried-first-in-ackerson-murder/12375387/

 

[NCEast]

Well, East, it's disappointing that this trial isn't beginning NOW, but I do understand that the new def atty, Cutler, does need some time -- after his arrogant, bull-headed client refused to work with two previous attys, one after the other. (And what a pity that GH wasn't able to get "a black attorney from Durham." Ohhhh, he makes me grind my teeth & growl.

Of course, now that they will have separate trials, the prosecutors want to try GH first, with AH to follow. If she rolls on him, which it sounds like she will, they can weigh her testimony to see if she is telling the truth (they really won't know except what can be proved, if anything) and if her testimony helps bury him, and they can give her a pre-agreed-upon sentence that will be very favorable to her -- unless her involvement was too direct and independent from GH. But they should at least have a good idea about that now -- seems like her attys (paid-for by her now -- whence the money for this, BTW??) would have had pow-wows about this along with their client's telling her side of it.

So we wait....

I am still wondering why she, AH, isn't demanding to go first. Especially since, according to the motions hearing of Monday she has an alibi and alibi witnesses who will testify, that she was not even there apparently when the murder took place. Maybe I'm thinking through this all wrong--and I certainly don't have any facts, but seems she could/would be working with the DA's office to nail him and it seems that her case should be tried first in order to do that. Seems the facts gleaned in her case should make their case against him stronger. Ok, you all know that I have migraines and I have one right now so bear with me. Also seems that the Boz and Holt would be willing to work with her, try her first, to get the damning goods on him that he could not refute whatsoever...... unless her case is weak and her attorneys are just throwing out the notion that she was not there and they have people who will testify to it.
Anyhow, I am disappointed that we will have to wait a few more months too. At least that will give me a chance to lose more pounds before the trial starts cause I sure don't plan to do anything but sit here and watch it. Both of them.
About their marriage. I have read two difference sources, and I don't have them handy now but it seems like one is the Kinston paper that has somewhat followed this case, that AH just took his name but they have never married. I'll try to remember where those comments were and then I can provide cites for each. I find that interesting too....it's coming out now and it didn't last summer when this first hit the airwaves and the two were still lovey-dovey.
I don't know who is paying for her attorneys, I think the female attorney was removed from the case on Monday during the motion hearing. I don't want sharp attorneys to get either of these horrible people off. Even if AH didn't actually hack LA to death, her involvement is huge since the body parts were discovered at her sister's house in TX,,, so she cannot be totally innocent. Lordy, I'm rambling, so sorry.

 

[gracielee]

I am still wondering why she, AH, isn't demanding to go first. Especially since, according to the motions hearing of Monday she has an alibi and alibi witnesses who will testify, that she was not even there apparently when the murder took place. Maybe I'm thinking through this all wrong--and I certainly don't have any facts, but seems she could/would be working with the DA's office to nail him and it seems that her case should be tried first in order to do that. Seems the facts gleaned in her case should make their case against him stronger. Ok, you all know that I have migraines and I have one right now so bear with me. Also seems that the Boz and Holt would be willing to work with her, try her first, to get the damning goods on him that he could not refute whatsoever...... unless her case is weak and her attorneys are just throwing out the notion that she was not there and they have people who will testify to it.
Anyhow, I am disappointed that we will have to wait a few more months too. At least that will give me a chance to lose more pounds before the trial starts cause I sure don't plan to do anything but sit here and watch it. Both of them.
About their marriage. I have read two difference sources, and I don't have them handy now but it seems like one is the Kinston paper that has somewhat followed this case, that AH just took his name but they have never married. I'll try to remember where those comments were and then I can provide cites for each. I find that interesting too....it's coming out now and it didn't last summer when this first hit the airwaves and the two were still lovey-dovey.
I don't know who is paying for her attorneys, I think the female attorney was removed from the case on Monday during the motion hearing. I don't want sharp attorneys to get either of these horrible people off. Even if AH didn't actually hack LA to death, her involvement is huge since the body parts were discovered at her sister's house in TX,,, so she cannot be totally innocent. Lordy, I'm rambling, so sorry.

I'm coming in late again, but it would seem to me that they'd try him first because they need to pin down her testimony at his trial to be sure she 'tells it like it is' before granting her any sort of deal?? JMT < just my thoughts >

:seeya: Hi guys, long time no see and now we have three cases. lease: How will we keep up with Janet & Shaniya? :banghead: Thank goodness this one isn't immediately too. :scared: