GUILTY NC - Laura Ackerson, 27, Kinston, 13 July 2011 #2

[borndem]

I'm coming in late again, but it would seem to me that they'd try him first because they need to pin down her testimony at his trial to be sure she 'tells it like it is' before granting her any sort of deal?? JMT < just my thoughts >

:seeya: Hi guys, long time no see and now we have three cases. lease: How will we keep up with Janet & Shaniya? :banghead: Thank goodness this one isn't immediately too. :scared:

I think that's exactly what the PT's plan is, glee -- although this arrangement will delay justice for the victim & her family. But that is what's customary in trials of this nature. It gives great incentive to the 2nd (and usually lesser-involved suspect) to give truthful testimony & lots of it.

And I am really looking forward to see what Amanda has to say about that arrogant smirking Grant. And in the same vein, I want to hear what Antionette has to say about that :liar: smirking MAM. Oh, yes, I can't wait.

As to the MAM and Abaroa trials occurring simultaneously, we won't get to watch the MAM trial anyway, but I do think WRAL/WTVD will stream the Abaroa trial. So, when there is a break in the streamed trial, we'll have to see if there are any news sources making reports during the day. And we'll certainly have the local news media reporting on the Fayetteville trial when court is in recess overnight.

Our houses are going to be in trouble -- :scared: -- no more spotless :sweep: floors, kitchens:shocked2: & bathrooms :floorlaugh: ; fewer gourmet meals coming out of our kitchens, and spring planting will be in 15- to 30-minute spurts.

Such is life for Websleuthers.... :websleuther:

 

[Cherry]

bah I planted all weekend, I'm so sore! I planted a salsa garden. Thank you for the link regarding the news in the case!

 

[NCEast]

This is a newspaper article about Laura's father in Michigan, dated 5/17/13. He is trying to get custody of Grant and Laura's two little boys. It's rather long, and sad.

http://www.sentinel-standard.com/article/20130517/NEWS/130519506

 

[borndem]

Video of this morning's hearing is here:

http://www.wral.com/news/video/12366987/#/vid12366987

I want to slap that smirk off of GH's face.

bbm

Ditto that, NCEast! Was he born with that smirk? Grrrr.

Let's hope the jury will do it for us and to him -- for the rest of his life!:websleuther:

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I would indeed like to know what it was that Amanda was a-doin' the night that Laura was killed. I wanna know what her alibi is!! :waiting:

 

[borndem]

In watching the live coverage of the hearing this morning, they are talking about a psych review that GH's had to go through with respect to the custody hearing with LA. I think I just heard AM's attorney say that the report indicated that GH is a psychopath and a sociopath. Ha, we already knew that.

Yeppers, to that, East! We could've saved the citizens of Wake County (and I'm one of 'em!) a bit of money -- we had him diagnosed fairly early in this thing -- we've seen so many, haven't we?! He was a piece o'cake....

Poor little AH may just be a regular nut-job, bless her heart.... But I am glad she's is separate from him in this case... yeah, GH, you can't win 'em all!!!

 

[borndem]

You know, upon further thought, how do you guys feel about this supposed life threatening letter GH supposedly sent AH?

My hinky meter is pegging.....don't they monitor jailhouse communication? I don't see how GH could've sent AH a letter, threatened her life, and no one else saw it?

Has anybody here seen this letter? If so, where?

 

[NCEast]

From WRAL's internet news tonight at 8pm:

Raleigh couple sued over Kinston mom's slaying

Raleigh, N.C. &#8212; The father of a 27-year-old Kinston woman whose remains were found in a Texas creek nearly two years ago filed a wrongful death lawsuit Wednesday against the Raleigh couple accused of killing her.

Grant Ruffin Hayes, 33, and Amanda Perry Hayes, 41, are each charged with first-degree murder in the death of Laura Jean Ackerson, who was reported missing July 15, 2011.

Her dismembered body was found nine days later in Richmond, Texas, about 60 miles south of Houston, near the home of a relative of Amanda Hayes.

Ackerson was Grant Hayes' ex-girlfriend and the mother of two of his children. She was last known to be in Raleigh on July 13, 2011.

The lawsuit, filed in Lenoir County on behalf of Rodger Ackerson, claims Ackerson "suffered mental and physical anguish" as a result of the defendants' actions, but it does not offer a motive for her death.

Family members have previously said that Ackerson and Grant Hayes were involved in a child custody dispute.

Grant Hayes is expected to go to trial Aug. 26, and Amanda Hayes' trial is scheduled for mid-January.

Court documents filed by attorneys for Amanda Hayes indicate that she was scared of her husband and was coerced into helping him dispose of Ackerson's body.

 

[CrimeAddict]

I am starting to wonder if this will be televised? Locally or on insession. It seems like a pretty intense case, I guess it would depend on what else insession has going on at the time, huh. I also wonder if Grant will testify, he is so full of himself it seems...

 

[borndem]

First of all, a Big HOO-RAY to the Wrongful Death suit! I just read the article in today's news -- I'm a few hours behind, believe it or not :blushing: -- and I had copied the link to bring over here, and our good 'East beat me to it, bless her....

I had read a few months back that it was in the works, so now it's on the record. Excellent! This can go forward independently of the court trial....

Yessssssssss!!!!

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ETA - Re the trial being streamed..... The last I heard from WRAL was that they were planning to live-stream it the way they have done so many -- Young, Cooper, Cook (Felony Death by Vehicle), Williford (Kathy Taft), etc., as long as the principals were okay with it, and the ADAs and the Judge have previously been on camera in several trials, but I don't know about the DT. WRAL made that statement a while back -- before this trial was delayed, delayed, and now split, so we'll see. I don't wanna jinx anything, but I would think it would still be a "go."

No idea, however, on the national level.

 

[CrimeAddict]

I talked to my husband yesterday and said I may want to go and asked him to go with me to the trial. He said he would go. He works 3pm-midnight, so we could go for 9am-12noon or something like that. I want to pick a good day. i would love opening statements, but there is always that chance that we can't get a seat because that would be a popular time to go. I just don't wan to go when its boring!

 

[geevee]

Hi everyone, I'll be following this trial as well, NCEast mentioned it to me and I read through this thread and got as caught up to speed as I could. In 2009 my husband and I looked at a house in the subdivision (Pecan Grove) where Oyster Creek runs, I recall all the news reports of them finding the body parts (because we'd been in that area two years before and the news was heavy with the story) but didn't know about the trial or anything until just recently (thanks NCE).

I google-mapped the area and got a GEMap of the street the sister's house is on, there was serious drought going on that summer so the creek was probably at its lowerst level in quite a while, but I think where the A marker is looks like the closest point of the creek to the back yards. I'll attach the map but if it looks like there will be crime scene photos enough for an album I'll open one on Photobucket and upload whatever we get so it's accessible to everyone here.

ETA: Also added a closer-up map.

 

[borndem]

Glad to have you aboard the Good Ship Websleuths, geevee!

And thanks for the maps -- I think most of us are very "visual" -- it's the old thing about a picture being worth 1,000 words & all that, so keep 'em coming! Lots of us are good about finding and sharing things like this and it adds a lot to our discussions, IMO.

I want there to be a lot of strong evidence in this one so that the jury will have no problems putting this arrogant ~~~ where he belongs, and for life.

I am also looking forward to seeing Mrs. Amanda take the stand -- maybe then we can get an idea of what makes her tick, and try to decide if she is just another worthless schemer/murderer or if she is/was a victim of a slimy snake with a sappy song and a smooth slither... <gag>

Welcome and just jump on in! Any friend of NCEast is a pal o'mine!! :seeya:

And a Greetz to NCEast!!

 

[NCEast]

Hi everyone, I'll be following this trial as well, NCEast mentioned it to me and I read through this thread and got as caught up to speed as I could. In 2009 my husband and I looked at a house in the subdivision (Pecan Grove) where Oyster Creek runs, I recall all the news reports of them finding the body parts (because we'd been in that area two years before and the news was heavy with the story) but didn't know about the trial or anything until just recently (thanks NCE).

I google-mapped the area and got a GEMap of the street the sister's house is on, there was serious drought going on that summer so the creek was probably at its lowerst level in quite a while, but I think where the A marker is looks like the closest point of the creek to the back yards. I'll attach the map but if it looks like there will be crime scene photos enough for an album I'll open one on Photobucket and upload whatever we get so it's accessible to everyone here.

ETA: Also added a closer-up map.

SOO happy you will be following this trial with us Geevee! Thanks so much for the maps. I am going to have to go back and re-read a lot of this case just to give myself a refresher course. Seems like only last week, yet it seems like 10 years ago.

 

[NCEast]

Glad to have you aboard the Good Ship Websleuths, geevee!

And thanks for the maps -- I think most of us are very "visual" -- it's the old thing about a picture being worth 1,000 words & all that, so keep 'em coming! Lots of us are good about finding and sharing things like this and it adds a lot to our discussions, IMO.

I want there to be a lot of strong evidence in this one so that the jury will have no problems putting this arrogant ~~~ where he belongs, and for life.

I am also looking forward to seeing Mrs. Amanda take the stand -- maybe then we can get an idea of what makes her tick, and try to decide if she is just another worthless schemer/murderer or if she is/was a victim of a slimy snake with a sappy song and a smooth slither... <gag>

Welcome and just jump on in! Any friend of NCEast is a pal o'mine!! :seeya:

And a Greetz to NCEast!!

I just sat here and wrote out a lengthy reply, apparently too long because I got cut off, and my post is flying around in outer space. That doesn't happen when I use my IE browser so I'm sticking with it.
Geevee is a darling and you will love her! She is smart and trial savvy and has already gained enough background info on the Hayes/Haze crazies that she feels the same as we do.
We just finished a trial in Albequerque unlike any I've ever watched. So happy Judge Stephens will be on the bench for this Hayes/Haze trial because we had our fill of a pro-defense judge in that other case from day one. And...strangely, the defense attorney's wife showed up on our thread just after the ***not guilty*** verdict was rendered trying to convince us that both her husband and the defendant were really fine men. Very odd.
Looking forward to spending time with you Born when this trial gets started...and I can't wait!

 

[NCEast]

Hi everyone, I'll be following this trial as well, NCEast mentioned it to me and I read through this thread and got as caught up to speed as I could. In 2009 my husband and I looked at a house in the subdivision (Pecan Grove) where Oyster Creek runs, I recall all the news reports of them finding the body parts (because we'd been in that area two years before and the news was heavy with the story) but didn't know about the trial or anything until just recently (thanks NCE).

I google-mapped the area and got a GEMap of the street the sister's house is on, there was serious drought going on that summer so the creek was probably at its lowerst level in quite a while, but I think where the A marker is looks like the closest point of the creek to the back yards. I'll attach the map but if it looks like there will be crime scene photos enough for an album I'll open one on Photobucket and upload whatever we get so it's accessible to everyone here.

ETA: Also added a closer-up map.

Thanks for the maps Geevee. The Hayes/Haze wife's sister lives along that creek and LE are not charging her with anything related to this case. Obviously, she was totally unaware of what her sister was up to that day. I bet she was surprised when LE showed up and told her what was going on. I am still so very thankful to both the Raleigh police dept. and the Texas law enforcement folks who tied all of this together in such a very short time--about a week IIRC. Have no idea how they did it.

 

[Jewels53]

Okay NC I made over here. Hello everyone seeya:

I have read over this whole thread and part of the 1st thread to try to catch up. I just wanted to know who the players were in the case. I haven't watched any video's yet.

I do remember the Laura being found in TX and wondering how close that it was to my DD. It was very far from her.

 

[NCEast]

Okay NC I made over here. Hello everyone seeya:

I have read over this whole thread and part of the 1st thread to try to catch up. I just wanted to know who the players were in the case. I haven't watched any video's yet.

I do remember the Laura being found in TX and wondering how close that it was to my DD. It was very far from her.

Glad you made it over Jewels. You will be among friends. BornDem and Gracie Lee (Glee) and several others are simply terrific people much like the group on the Chavez thread. I need to do some homework on this case to get myself prepared for it. I am finding myself forgetting stuff and rereading this thread is what I'll do over the weekend.
I went to bed, slept for a while, now I'm up. I am going to give the sandman one more chance.
Hope everybody has a nice night.

 

[thefragile7393]

Glad you made it over Jewels. You will be among friends. BornDem and Gracie Lee (Glee) and several others are simply terrific people much like the group on the Chavez thread. I need to do some homework on this case to get myself prepared for it. I am finding myself forgetting stuff and rereading this thread is what I'll do over the weekend.
I went to bed, slept for a while, now I'm up. I am going to give the sandman one more chance.
Hope everybody has a nice night.

Catching up here too

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[geevee]

Glad to have you aboard the Good Ship Websleuths, geevee!

And thanks for the maps -- I think most of us are very "visual" -- it's the old thing about a picture being worth 1,000 words & all that, so keep 'em coming! Lots of us are good about finding and sharing things like this and it adds a lot to our discussions, IMO.

I want there to be a lot of strong evidence in this one so that the jury will have no problems putting this arrogant ~~~ where he belongs, and for life.

I am also looking forward to seeing Mrs. Amanda take the stand -- maybe then we can get an idea of what makes her tick, and try to decide if she is just another worthless schemer/murderer or if she is/was a victim of a slimy snake with a sappy song and a smooth slither... <gag>

Welcome and just jump on in! Any friend of NCEast is a pal o'mine!! :seeya:

And a Greetz to NCEast!!

Hiya BD, and thanks for the warm welcome! I think we ran across each other on the Abaroa thread, seems like a long time ago. lol Looking very forward to that retrial.

This case looks to be really interesting, I hope we'll have access to plenty of pics and documents.

Thanks again, BD.

 

[geevee]

SOO happy you will be following this trial with us Geevee! Thanks so much for the maps. I am going to have to go back and re-read a lot of this case just to give myself a refresher course. Seems like only last week, yet it seems like 10 years ago.

You rock NCE, thanks for saving me a seat with the cool folks.