GUILTY NC - Laura Ackerson, 27, Kinston, 13 July 2011 #7

[CUCKOOHEAD]

What do you mean?

She was proud at what she thought of as her son's ability to charm others but she went farther and didn't find it creepy that some teachers were jealous. So there is no problem in PH's mind between children and adults.

This struck me as a twistedness in character. I would think a parent would demand adults be adults around their children and to not enter into some sort of competition leading to jealousy.

 

[Nymeria]

Crim. 307.10 - Accident (Defense to homicide)

http://www.aoc.state.nc.us/www/public/coa/opinions/2005/041626-1.htm

:tyou:

 

[Madeleine74]

Here's how Patsy helped the state: they needed to get in those letters and they got them in through her. Because they called Patsy to the stand, the defense cannot later use that as judicial error on the judge's part.

 

[Nymeria]

Judge Stephens "If you can't say what you need to say in 2 hours, you probably need to sit down"
:giggle: Love him!

 

[Nymeria]

She was proud at what she thought of as her son's ability to charm others but she went farther and didn't find it creepy that some teachers were jealous. So there is no problem in PH's mind between children and adults.

This struck me as a twistedness in character. I would think a parent would demand adults be adults around their children and to not enter into some sort of competition leading to jealousy.

I am not quite sure what she was saying there though.
Did she mean they were jealous because THEY (the teachers) were hot for him?

Or maybe somehow trying to say the girls chasing him was a distraction in class?
But she did say jealous. I don't know, it was such a weird thing to say I almost can't think she meant the teachers were into Grant...ya know?

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

I've got to stop hoping the last witness or last piece of evidence is the bombshell that'll blow this trial sky high.

I really get loopy when it sounds like the defense is asking better questions on behalf of the State then the State is.

What did I get out of the letters? Nuttin

 

[Nymeria]

Hold up.
They said Monday right?
Won't the courts be closed for Presidents day?
Or did I miss them amending it to Tuesday?

 

[MissSallyAnnie]

She was proud at what she thought of as her son's ability to charm others but she went farther and didn't find it creepy that some teachers were jealous. So there is no problem in PH's mind between children and adults.

This struck me as a twistedness in character. I would think a parent would demand adults be adults around their children and to not enter into some sort of competition leading to jealousy.

Agree to that, that was a weird statement, as if she was proud of that fact. I wonder if Grant's claims of being molested as a child (including an aunt ?!?) are true. No telling with that man; but her including that remark about the teachers in her testimony is a pinhole-sized light into his childhood.

 

[borndem]

Good Gawd she looks like Grant in a wig!
:scared:
They look a lot alike.

My thoughts the same, my friend!!

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

I am not quite sure what she was saying there though.
Did she mean they were jealous because THEY (the teachers) were hot for him?

Or maybe somehow trying to say the girls chasing him was a distraction in class?
But she did say jealous. I don't know, it was such a weird thing to say I almost can't think she meant the teachers were into Grant...ya know?

Yes she said jealous. She didn't say annoyed which would have led the listener to the conclusion that it was disrupting class time while being proud of her son's ability to charm.

I took it to mean that some teacher's resented the attention female classmates gave to Grant. Until more info I'm not sure where this may have gone.. are these teachers pedophiles?

What I did get from PH's statement was that the inappropriateness of a jealousy even existing didn't bother PH. In fact she was proud. Does this mean that sexual abuse between adults and children in her family was present? I can't say but it made me uncomfortable.


It gave me the ickies.

 

[jmt707]

Did the prosecution ask the "snitch" if she got anything in return for her testimony? Seems to me in another trial and I'm thinking it was Jason Young's trial (may very well be wrong) - they made a point of asking the "snitch" what they got for their testimony. That way it wouldn't be an issue. I think she was very detailed about a someone else's story. I could retell a story that was relayed to me, but I swear I wouldn't remember names - specifically song names.

And do you think Patsy came flying into town with those letters because she was afraid AH was about to be set free by the jury? She's had them all this time.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Agree to that, that was a weird statement, as if she was proud of that fact. I wonder if Grant's claims of being molested as a child (including an aunt ?!?) are true. No telling with that man; but her including that remark about the teachers in her testimony is a pinhole-sized light into his childhood.

MissSally that is exactly what I meant when I said it was a peek into her character. It does lend creedence to GH's claims of being sexually abused.

 

[Jewels53]

Hold up.
They said Monday right?
Won't the courts be closed for Presidents day?
Or did I miss them amending it to Tuesday?

I just checked and yes it is a Federal Holiday so a State one also. Judge did say Monday.

Trial Diva Jen ™ ‏@TrialDivasJ 30m
Judge says 9:30am Monday for more #AmandaHayes.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Did the prosecution ask the "snitch" if she got anything in return for her testimony? Seems to me in another trial and I'm thinking it was Jason Young's trial (may very well be wrong) - they made a point of asking the "snitch" what they got for their testimony. That way it wouldn't be an issue. I think she was very detailed about a someone else's story. I could retell a story that was relayed to me, but I swear I wouldn't remember names - specifically song names.

And do you think Patsy came flying into town with those letters because she was afraid AH was about to be set free by the jury? She's had them all this time.

The State also did this in Martin McNeil's trial.

She's had them all this time. I'll tell you I wouldn't have my kids at her day care center let alone raising them.

 

[borndem]

Does Grant have siblings? Anyone know?

A sister, Grantina. IIRC. I don't know if there are more.

 

[Boodles]

Wake county courts are open on Monday. Per their website. No worries.

 

[Skittles]

Monday is not a holiday for Wake County:

https://we.wakegov.com/updates/Pages/holiday.aspx

 

[borndem]

Ugh, the reality of this gruesome crime and all the pain these two
have inflicted on all their family, friend, and especially those precious little children.

And everybody in Kinston knows all about it. Great for those little children and the grandparents who take them places.... You know how unthinking and mean children can be. <smh> My heart hurts for them.

 

[borndem]

Did she just call her son 'Grant Purple Hayes the third'?

Grant Ruffin Hayes III.

 

[borndem]

This woman reads as if she is reading a bedtime story to little kids. I don[t believe that voice.

She's prolly read about a million stories to the kids in her daycare place.