NC - MacDonald family murders at Fort Bragg, 1970 - Jeffrey MacDonald innocent?

[Amraann]

He has been claiming this in one form or another since the death of his wife and children.


Always some new evidence.

 

[michelle]

He has been claiming this in one form or another since the death of his wife and children.


Always some new evidence.

oh i know he has....

 

[PonderingThings]

http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=228294

The hair of a former Army doctor convicted in the slayings of his wife and two daughters was found clutched in his dead wife’s hand, according to long-awaited results of DNA testing made public Friday. Testing of another hair, under the fingernail of Jeffrey MacDonald’s youngest daughter, showed that it came from an unidentified person, a find that MacDonald’s supporters say bolsters his case.

MacDonald asked for the DNA testing in 1997, claiming it would help prove that a band of crazed hippies killed his family in 1970, while he was stationed at Fort Bragg. But federal prosecutors said in a statement Friday that the testing found no DNA from either the man or the woman MacDonald named as suspects.

 

[blueclouds]

So did someone help him then? I mean how does an already dead wife clutch her husbands hand? That should have knocked him off his high horse. As for the unidentified - well then the floppy hat woman and her druggie group weren't responsible either. Therefore wondering if JM hired someone to help so he didn't have to "do the girls". Good lord. I used to believe this guy was innocent.

 

[ISPTRAX]

Ha! I always wondered what this BIG DNA thing that was supposed to get him OFF was going to be. This only proves he had hired someone to help him. Like another said, probably to OFF the kids. What a creep. How in God's name can that woman stand behind her "MAN" the quadruple murderer?

 

[Jules]

I'm really shocked he put so much faith in the DNA tests proving him innocent. He had to have known what the results were going to be. (I firmly believe he commited the murders and acted alone). I think the reason he pitched such a fit about having the testing done was not so it actually would be done, but so he could complain that it wasn't done timely. He requested, and the judge granted, the testing in 1997. I guarantee you that will be the next complaint filed by his attorneys.

As for the hair on Kristen - that could have come from anywhere and since that didn't match the persons MacDonald named either, I'm guessing it did come from anywhere.

It's been said that they did not have a washing machine and dryer in their apartment. Therefore, the hair could have come from the laundry and brought in the house that way. At this point, who knows.... all I know if Jeffy is going to be staying right where he is until he breathes his last breath - and that suits me JUST fine!

 

[less0305]

I agree with Jules....I still believe he did it and did it alone. The hair under the daughter's nail could have been picked up earlier in the day from anywhere else. Nobody says the hair HAD to come from someone in the house that night while being attacked. Nope, Dr. Mac did this and did this alone and I feel sure his will rot in jail.

 

[nanandjim]

I also believe that he did it and did it alone. The guy is a self-centered narcissist who thinks that he is smarter than everyone else. He'll think that to the day that he dies. Thank God his wife had such a wonderful stepfather. Without his persistence, MacDonald would most likely have gotten away with murdering his family.

 

[sharpar]

I'm really shocked he put so much faith in the DNA tests proving him innocent. He had to have known what the results were going to be. (I firmly believe he commited the murders and acted alone). I think the reason he pitched such a fit about having the testing done was not so it actually would be done, but so he could complain that it wasn't done timely. He requested, and the judge granted, the testing in 1997. I guarantee you that will be the next complaint filed by his attorneys.


He will have a hard time with that since Mac's team chose the lab where the testing was done. I believe he got plenty of mileage out of " waiting for results" though. It will be mildly interesting to see what spin gets put on these results. Hopefully media and all will ignore him and that delusional wife of his.

 

[Lacy Wood]

It's been many years since I read the details, but didn't blood evidence show the girl stabbed to death in the parents' bed was later moved to her own bed in a crime scene rearrangement? Things like that speak volumns.

 

[blueclouds]

Just thinking about this last night in depth. WHY

WHY IS HE SO INSISTENT ON THE DNA TESTING??? HE KNEW that some of the evidence would absolutely come back with someone else's .

He had someone help him. Most likely a serious druggie that he could and probably DID overdose after the deed was done. He probably promised him unlimited drug supply. I mean, he said himself that druggies probably did this for revenge and Fort Bragg was full of drugged out vets.

So there you go. Not quite like we all thought. So he lets a strung out druggie in his house late at night, he does his wife and lets the other guy kill the little girls. then he gets himself stabbed in all the right places and calls for help.

Later in the week or 2 weeks, he injects the guy that helped him and makes his death look like an overdose.

Oh gee - I'm going to email this to his site......

What a son of a .

 

[Jules]

It's been many years since I read the details, but didn't blood evidence show the girl stabbed to death in the parents' bed was later moved to her own bed in a crime scene rearrangement? Things like that speak volumns.

I believe the blood evidence showed that Collette had been struck in one of the girl's rooms - I believe Kimberly's room.

MacDonald said that one of the daughters was in his bed and had wet it. I believe that was Kristen. However, she was not stabbed in the bed. She was put back in her room.

As you said - it's been a long time.... :waitasec:

 

[Jules]

Just thinking about this last night in depth. WHY

WHY IS HE SO INSISTENT ON THE DNA TESTING??? HE KNEW that some of the evidence would absolutely come back with someone else's .

He had someone help him. Most likely a serious druggie that he could and probably DID overdose after the deed was done. He probably promised him unlimited drug supply. I mean, he said himself that druggies probably did this for revenge and Fort Bragg was full of drugged out vets.

So there you go. Not quite like we all thought. So he lets a strung out druggie in his house late at night, he does his wife and lets the other guy kill the little girls. then he gets himself stabbed in all the right places and calls for help.

Later in the week or 2 weeks, he injects the guy that helped him and makes his death look like an overdose.

Oh gee - I'm going to email this to his site......

What a son of a .

There has never been any evidence of another person at the crime scene - no fingerprints, no footprints, no nothing - other than Mac saying there was.

 

[SewingDeb]

There has never been any evidence of another person at the crime scene - no fingerprints, no footprints, no nothing - other than Mac saying there was.

From Pondering's link above:

Testing of another hair, under the fingernail of Jeffrey MacDonald’s youngest daughter, showed that it came from an unidentified person, a find that MacDonald’s supporters say bolsters his case.

 

[Jules]

From Pondering's link above:

Testing of another hair, under the fingernail of Jeffrey MacDonald’s youngest daughter, showed that it came from an unidentified person, a find that MacDonald’s supporters say bolsters his case.

I saw that - what I meant was that the hair could have come from anywhere - not that night. It could have been attached to the bedding when it was washed in the public laundry facility Collette used. It could have been attached to the stuffed animal she slept with that night.

Then again, Mac could have planted that hair there too. Now that wouldn't surprise me a bit.... although if he was going to do that, you'd think he would have planted a few more.

 

[SewingDeb]

Those are all possibilities, but under her fingernail? It seems that wouldn't just be random.

 

[Jules]

Those are all possibilities, but under her fingernail? It seems that wouldn't just be random.

I guess it would also depend on the size of the hair they found. If it was long one, that would be different. I'd be willing to bet it was a small piece - maybe even a broken of one. That could have been picked up anywhere.

If I'm not mistaken, there was no evidence Kristen ever woke up during the attack. I believe it was Kimmy that woke up.

I'm going to have to go back and read through things. It's been a while since I've done that.

 

[blueclouds]

There has never been any evidence of another person at the crime scene - no fingerprints, no footprints, no nothing - other than Mac saying there was.

But now Jules, there IS evidence within the hands of his daughters. So how to explain that away now?


Why would it be too far fetched to believe he got a druggie to help him?

 

[Jules]

But now Jules, there IS evidence within the hands of his daughters. So how to explain that away now?


Why would it be too far fetched to believe he got a druggie to help him?

As I said earlier, the hair could have come for many things prior to the murder. If it was a long hair twisted around her finger or something like that I'd be more prone to think it occurred during a struggle. However, we don't know how big or long the hair was. I don't believe there was any evidence though of Kristen waking up during the attack. Then again, who knows.....

The reason I don't believe anyone else was there is because Mac is a narcissit who would never entrust a plan like this to someone else. He is a control freak - ego maniac, etc. - I just can't see him having anyone help him.

Sorry, Blue. Just my feelings. :blowkiss:

 

[less0305]

In my opinion, the reason I can't wrap my brain around an accomplice is because I still believe this was a rage killing that was touched off that night by something.... I don't know what, but something. I think he was more than a little cranked up on some type of speed or whatever his drug of choice was and there was a boiling rage that spilled over and he went after the object of his rage - his wife.....then during a struggle and fight one of the babies woke and from then on - his mission had to be kill them and kill them all and make it look like an intruder. I believe he could kill his own children - he was trained in the military to survive and at that point his life was at stake and he did what it took to survive being ruined and sent to prison for the murder of his wife. He seriously thought it would pass muster following on the heels of the Sharon Tate murders by Charlie Manson and his crew. And it almost worked - but his narcissistic self just couldn't shut up and that got Freddy thinking and working, thank God.