Found Deceased NC - Mariah Woods, 3, Onslow County, 27 Nov 2017 #3

[keeleydoll]

I have sometime tomorrow.. Give me some parameters.

1. How far back do we go
2. A list of cases to start
3. Will age matter?
4. Gender or child or prep?

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Aveion Lewis, he was removed to foster care and returned to his mother.


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[kimlynn]

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A few other cases I remember were Shaniya Davis (also North Carolina), Somer Thompson (Florida) and Hailey Dunn (Texas) where they were eventually found.

Unfortunately, this case reminds me so much of little Haleigh Cummings, who sadly, was never found. She suffered from Turner's Syndrome if I remember correctly.

I'm still praying that LE gets the one break they need to lead them to Mariah.

This case also reminds me of Haleigh Cummings even to the open door on the home. I followed her case from the start on another forum.
I'm hoping this will be different and Mariah will be found.
I'm trying to recall the name of the little girl that was murdered by her stepmother and the father knew about it.
All I can recall is her freckles and she also had a brace on her leg. Mother made her run up and down a hill in spite of her leg.
Parts of her (ugh) were found scattered in various locations.
ETA...her name was Zahra Baker

 

[rsd1200]

I am so glad you got out - thank you for your insight, I believe this was the case too.

I believe this could be the case also. Unfortunately, even if Mom wanted out, it's not as easy as some folks think that it is. Even if she knows, in her heart, or for sure, the he has done something she may be too afraid to say anything. The emotional control that abusers have over their prey is amazing. I'm reserving judgement on Mom for now because I know that most can't just get up and walk out that door with kids in tow. It's a terrible existence. I have a couple friends who had abusive spouses. I'm surprised that one of them made it out alive. The man was a monster and LE was of zero assistance.

 

[margarita25]

Alex Woods said in the Nancy Grace interview that someone was seen leaving the mobile home at 3 am carrying a bundle. someone he thought was the grandmotherly neighbor. He said there were 2 witnesses to that. Maybe there was more info from a tip about where she may have been going.
I think it's ok to post this bc it was on MSM media?

Note to post NG transcript

 

[gitana1]

No [emoji20]

Just had a very short presser. 700 people showed up to volunteer [emoji33]

Family is cooperating is what he said....had a lengthy conversation with a family member. Didn’t say who.


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Thank you so much!!

And if that is how he punishes mom for neglecting to provide cigarettes...

Exactly.

I found another site that references EK allegedly attacking the truck

http://www.kinston.com/news/20171201/daily-news-request-for-911-audio-and-callout-logs-denied



[/FONT][/COLOR]So what I'm wondering is, if you add together this allegation along with the allegations made by the bio dad in the Nancy Grace interview of one of the elder boys in the home being beaten with a belt by the bf....

*If* both these allegations were true, if someone could take out their temper on a truck in that way, how far could they go in beating a child that had displeased them? Would they be able to hold back better with a child than a truck?

Nope.

I've never heard anyone refer to themselves as having an "adult temper". I don't like this one bit.

That's quite the reaction to being inconvenienced, without car keys or cigarettes. And we know how "inconvenienced" one could be from a 3 year old.

Yeah. Let's leave a vulnerable, tiny toddler alone with a full grown man who has an "adult temper". That's not neglect, right?

Can we please just once see manslaughter or some form of negligent homicide charges against a mother who leaves her precious child alone to be battered to death by one of these freaks?

 

[lonetraveler]

I don't believe anything the bio dad stated.

In addition, I can't believe this thread has gotten so out of control that Susan Smith is constantly mentioned.

As far as I know right now, Mariah and her mother are the main victims.

Am I missing something? Is there a reason that the bio-dad isn't considered a victim as well?

 

[emilybobemily]

Is there a new thread coming?

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[Amonet]

I have sometime tomorrow.. Give me some parameters.

1. How far back do we go
2. A list of cases to start
3. Will age matter?
4. Gender or child or prep?

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1- depends how many cases you can come across. Maybe 20 years to allow for the change in housing and road development, though this might not have a huge impact other than in big cities.

3 - size of the victim's body may make a difference to ease of transportation, this could be an interesting subset to explore if one was doing a paper on the subject, but we want something a bit quicker, so I would say under 7 or 8 years old and with the age of the deceased noted because our focus would really be on the 18 month to 5yr old subset I think. But that will reduce the number of relevant cases, so it's worth adding in a few either side of that age range to get a bit more info and see if it's still consistent with the target age range.

I think it's worth noting the gender of the child, definitely to note the gender of the perp, the one doing the body disposal. I don't think Sherin's case is good for this purpose as we don't have enough details...jmo, as all of this is. The gender of the perp should be very relevant.

My interests would be the perp's gender, their relationship to the child, the type of general geographical environment of the body dump, the specific environment where the body was found and whether it's above ground,above ground and slightly covered, below ground, in water, landfill, etc. Also very important would be the distance from the child's home and/or site of death.

I'm so sorry that my posts are coming over very bossy tonight...These are my suggestions, my dream list, I definitely don't expect *all* of my wishes to be fulfilled, because that's asking too much, but whatever you can come up with will be totally amazing. Thank you so much!

ETA Type of dump site is already known to have a (perp) gender component, there is research on that subject already and should be accessible online.

Personally, one thing I would love to be able to do, but not enough hours in the day, is to study road routes taken to dump sites by the perp, how they choose the route and how they decide on the dump site, how far they will drive, and what impacts on those decisions. I just had a look on G maps to try and understand Hwy 17 in relation to Mariah's home and the decisions that would have to be made on that journey.

 

[Busylady]

I have been trying to catch up on all the post today and have spent an hour searching msm for links on the following and have come up empty - can someone be kind enough to direct me in the right direction?

1. Boyfriend is a drug addict and dealer - cooking and selling meth
2. Pictures with bruises on Mariah
3. Mom is a victim of domestic violence

Thanks

 

[Miss Magnolia]

I can only speak from my experience. My son, a combat vet died tragically in 2010. By todays standards (I won't go into specifics) the person partially responsible would have been charged. An hour after I had walked into the funeral home and seen my son lying there, there was a scurrying of people upset and talking. I went to see what was wrong. The person partially responsible was seen sitting in the parking lot. Everyones motions were very high and angry. I have always believed in forgiveness and the personal burden it would be to for me not forgive. I had enough of a burden at the time without adding unforgiveness to it. I walked to the parking lot and to the persons car. He looked frightened. He admitted what happened and with tears in his eyes he apologized. I took his hand and walked with him into the funeral home so he could have whatever peace he could find. I am so grateful that all of that happened. I personally believe it was something greater then myself that allowed that to happen. Forgiveness frees a person. Wisdom gives you the understanding to avoid it happening again. I don't judge anyone for how they handle tragedy. Just wanted to share how I handled a part of mine.

Forgiveness is healing. It helps you make peace within yourself. So very sorry for the loss of your Son.

 

[margarita25]

Yep. When I read that article at the time it was posted, it had a heck of a lot more information in it. Now, going back to that verysame post, and it is as if I was hugely mistaken. I did copy the text of the article, but then "cut" out some parts, so it is is not representative of the entire "original" article that was in the post.

I did wonder at the neighbor's courage, to be quoted by name in the article. Then concerned about whether a baseball bat might be taken to the informant! Glad the article was edited, for the sake of the neighbor.

(Oh my gosh, there's this show called "I solved a crime" or something like that...well LE named a witness in a news article (NOT cool), so then that guy was rightfully scared, he said it put him in a situation of "either he gets me first or I get him first"...so he went after the perp himself.)

 

[EA18G]

Just to add, the bio father had an interview with NG and stated the reason CPS had taken the children and given them to him was because the BF beat his son with a belt and the mother and BF tried to cover it up by saying he fell out of a bunkbed. Link is in this thread somewhere.

Have the 2 sons been removed from their home with Mariah's Mother since Mariah disappeared? I didn't know this.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Maybe they found some wet adult clothes at the house?

That is exactly what I have been wondering...:thinking:

 

[gitana1]

I believe this could be the case also. Unfortunately, even if Mom wanted out, it's not as easy as some folks think that it is. Even if she knows, in her heart, or for sure, the he has done something she may be too afraid to say anything. The emotional control that abusers have over their prey is amazing. I'm reserving judgement on Mom for now because I know that most can't just get up and walk out that door with kids in tow. It's a terrible existence. I have a couple friends who had abusive spouses. I'm surprised that one of them made it out alive. The man was a monster and LE was of zero assistance.

I have zero understanding or sympathy for a parent who knowingly leaves their tiny, vulnerable child alone with an abusive monster. I'm sorry. Her child had a dad and step mom who could've come to get her and her brothers. And keep them safe.

 

[lonetraveler]

I often think of the search for Caylee Anthony. Texas Equasearch was there with all their big guns and nothing.

Then she was found so very close to home by a meter reader.

I have a feeling this is how this might end. Not by searching but by accident.

How do these dumb bunnies get so lucky.

For those searching it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. God bless them for trying so hard.

Able to send a man to the moon but unable to find a murdered child.
Surely we can come up with something???

Well, people put micro-chips in their dogs in order to locate them when they are missing.

 

[rsd1200]

Which leads me to speculate on -- oh, never mind. I had better not go there! Just wondering if someone does not have a valid driver's license? Keys "not available"!

If he is an abuser I doubt that she'd deliberately take those keys (if she did, she'd never admit to him that she did), I also doubt not having Ls would stop him from driving.

 

[gitana1]

I can only speak from my experience. My son, a combat vet died tragically in 2010. By todays standards (I won't go into specifics) the person partially responsible would have been charged. An hour after I had walked into the funeral home and seen my son lying there, there was a scurrying of people upset and talking. I went to see what was wrong. The person partially responsible was seen sitting in the parking lot. Everyones motions were very high and angry. I have always believed in forgiveness and the personal burden it would be to for me not forgive. I had enough of a burden at the time without adding unforgiveness to it. I walked to the parking lot and to the persons car. He looked frightened. He admitted what happened and with tears in his eyes he apologized. I took his hand and walked with him into the funeral home so he could have whatever peace he could find. I am so grateful that all of that happened. I personally believe it was something greater then myself that allowed that to happen. Forgiveness frees a person. Wisdom gives you the understanding to avoid it happening again. I don't judge anyone for how they handle tragedy. Just wanted to share how I handled a part of mine.

My heart just broke for you. But then the pieces swelled in admiration. You are a role model.

 

[Cardinal47]

(Reminds me of Sherin's case, when they asked the same thing, have you seen this vehicle during this time frame...the vehicle had been seeing leaving on a neighbors surveillance camera...)

There was a reference to a sighting at 3am of the BF. I can't find it now but it was on the Nancy Grace Podcast interview with Bio Dad. I wonder if that's what they are looking for.

I notice that road by the trailer park is very heavily traveled. Would there be camera's. Usually gas stations and banks have good cameras.

I'm sure they have all the tapes along those routes looking for the car/truck BF owns.

 

[NewMama]

1- depends how many cases you can come across. Maybe 20 years to allow for the change in housing and road development, though this might not have a huge impact other than in big cities.

3 - size of the victim's body may make a difference to ease of transportation, this could be an interesting subset to explore if one was doing a paper on the subject, but we want something a bit quicker, so I would say under 7 or 8 years old and with the age of the deceased noted because our focus would really be on the 18 month to 5yr old subset I think. But that will reduce the number of relevant cases, so it's worth adding in a few either side of that age range to get a bit more info and see if it's still consistent with the target age range.

I think it's worth noting the gender of the child, definitely to note the gender of the perp, the one doing the body disposal. I don't think Sherin's case is good for this purpose as we don't have enough details...jmo, as all of this is. The gender of the perp should be very relevant.

My interests would be the perp's gender, their relationship to the child, the type of general geographical environment of the body dump, the specific environment where the body was found and whether it's above ground,above ground and slightly covered, below ground, in water, landfill, etc. Also very important would be the distance from the child's home and/or site of death.

I'm so sorry that my posts are coming over very bossy tonight...These are my suggestions, my dream list, I definitely don't expect *all* of my wishes to be fulfilled, because that's asking too much, but whatever you can come up with will be totally amazing. Thank you so much!

Nodding head specifically to the gender portion re: victim and suspect and/or perp. Things my subconscious is probably aware of that I will leave to those that can address them with composure.

 

[kkdj]

I have a feeling someone is going to confess very soon.