Found Deceased NC - Mariah Woods, 3, Onslow County, 27 Nov 2017 #7 *Arrest*

[Hoosier952]

I am just going to throw this out there. Looking at the severe dysfunction that appears to be rampant in this "family" it seems to me that there isn't an acceptable custody option for the boys with any of them. Foster care in a loving home may or may not be available.

About 40 years ago or so, the prevailing sentiment evolved that "the worst home is better than the best institution".. Orphanages closed their doors. I really believe we may need to take a long hard look and think about some kind of group living facility for children whose lives have been ruined by all these crazies. Something that would provide comprehensive psychological help, loving and nurturing staff and would truly be a SAFE HAVEN.

The need is absolutely there........JMO

I wish something like this would be possible, but I'm afraid of the potential of more abuse, neglect, and mistreatment they might be exposed to. I just think about all of the group/nursing homes and awful foster care situations that people get sent to. Finding a loving and nurturing staff (who would probably be expected to be loving and nurturing for about minimum wage) and keeping them around and not letting them get burnt out would be near impossible, I'm afraid.

I have a lot of ideas, but I doubt most would agree with them as they are pretty extreme, but it kinda goes along with this. I don't think children should be returned to homes where investigations proved there was abuse of any sort. Abuse doesn't stop and the "parents" get better at hiding it or better at keeping the kids hidden from the world when it can't be hidden. In homes where drug use is occurring (weed excluded), daily supervised urine tests for a week, weekly for a month, and then randomly until all children are out of the home. I do not think addicts can be good parents. I do not think they should get financial aid for children they are not properly caring for. Children removed from these situations early, given the therapy and safe living conditions they need should be able to break the cycle. Returning them to the dysfunction is just allowing for the cycle of abuse to continue.

 

[Tminct]

I agree they would not leave their drugs out on purpose, but if they had just used and were nodding off then the drugs would be easily accessible to that poor littlr girl.... sorry this was meant to reply to a post but guess I am not 100% sure on how to post here

 

[MyBelle]

Isn't it possible that Mariah was already toilet trained or is 3yo too young? I can't quite remember, been a long time since I've had any little ones around.

She may have been toilet-trained during the day but at night sometimes kids that age are sound sleepers and the "gotta go" urge doesn't awaken them and they wet the bed. The wet bed awakens them and they do not like it one bit.

 

[therion20]

Isn't it possible that Mariah was already toilet trained or is 3yo too young? I can't quite remember, been a long time since I've had any little ones around.

It could be, but remember she had mobility issues or maybe other medical problems that can contribute to a delay on the toilet training.

 

[MyBelle]

Hi! Long time lurker, first time poster. Has anyone else noticed that Mariah is not wearing leg braces in any photos? I know she was supposed to have them but I can't find one picture with her wearing them.

I noticed that, too.

 

[haven71]

Isn't it possible that Mariah was already toilet trained or is 3yo too young? I can't quite remember, been a long time since I've had any little ones around.

It's totally possible. I have 5 kids, 3 adopted from overseas orphanages, who were understandably delayed in toilet training among other things. But 4 of my kids were trained no later than age 3.25. Hardly any required pull-ups, even at night once they were trained. I was lucky that way I guess.

 

[rsd1200]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5028957/missing-toddler-marines-mariah-woods-north-carolina/

Thanks for that, Tortoise... I already had that image burned into my retinas. :notgood: At this point, after what we have learned, I do not think that mom was a victim of DV, at all. They may have fought, and fought loudly, but that's all, I'm venturing to guess, unless some sort of other bombshell drops. I think that these two belong on that show, I can't remember the name, but it should have been called "when psychos fall in love". On their own, they may never have perpetrated such horrors, but, they somehow link up, and it's like the perfect storm. I looked at mom's FB and it looked like a normal family. Christmas, Easter, outings to the zoo, etc... EK's got a photo of him beaming at his newborn, with one of the kids sitting neaby. So similar to my, and my family's, and friend's, photos. What chameleons.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5028957/missing-toddler-marines-mariah-woods-north-carolina/

Quite the Casey Anthony type smile...and by that I mean the bared teeth, and the smile doesn't quite show in her eyes.

 

[Hoosier952]

Isn't it possible that Mariah was already toilet trained or is 3yo too young? I can't quite remember, been a long time since I've had any little ones around.

I think it's quite possible. One of mine was dry at night from 18 months on, the other two were mostly dry by 3 but having enough accidents that we opted for pull-ups until they had gone 2 weeks without an accident and still put them in them when they fell asleep without using the restroom or if we knew they were overtired, or drank a ton right before bed.

I was thinking more along the lines of why they wouldn't have her in them due to her mobility issues. If they were as bad as how they were described and she didn't wear her braces to bed, I would think if she woke up during the night, she might not have enough time to get to the bathroom.

 

[MyBelle]

It's totally possible. I have 5 kids, 3 adopted from overseas orphanages, who were understandably delayed in toilet training among other things. But 4 of my kids were trained no later than age 3.25. Hardly any required pull-ups, even at night once they were trained. I was lucky that way I guess.

Mariah had leg braces and had just turned age 3 two weeks before her death. I don't know if she was capable of getting out of bed by herself if she did awaken and have to use the restroom.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I wish something like this would be possible, but I'm afraid of the potential of more abuse, neglect, and mistreatment they might be exposed to. I just think about all of the group/nursing homes and awful foster care situations that people get sent to. Finding a loving and nurturing staff (who would probably be expected to be loving and nurturing for about minimum wage) and keeping them around and not letting them get burnt out would be near impossible, I'm afraid.

I have a lot of ideas, but I doubt most would agree with them as they are pretty extreme, but it kinda goes along with this. I don't think children should be returned to homes where investigations proved there was abuse of any sort. Abuse doesn't stop and the "parents" get better at hiding it or better at keeping the kids hidden from the world when it can't be hidden. In homes where drug use is occurring (weed excluded), daily supervised urine tests for a week, weekly for a month, and then randomly until all children are out of the home. I do not think addicts can be good parents. I do not think they should get financial aid for children they are not properly caring for. Children removed from these situations early, given the therapy and safe living conditions they need should be able to break the cycle. Returning them to the dysfunction is just allowing for the cycle of abuse to continue.

Yup. Institutions of all sorts mean lots of staff and lots of potential for people with all sorts of issues. Controlling people are sometimes drawn to these situations. Look at all the abuse that goes on in rest homes. Read Jane Eyre for some history on what used to go on.

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[Oregonmama]

She may have been toilet-trained during the day but at night sometimes kids that age are sound sleepers and the "gotta go" urge doesn't awaken them and they wet the bed. The wet bed awakens them and they do not like it one bit.

Some kids who are abused will have bathroom issues such as bed wetting.

 

[haven71]

Mariah had leg braces and had just turned age 3 two weeks before her death. I don't know if she was capable of getting out of bed by herself if she did awaken and have to use the restroom.

That's true. And if she was expected to make it to the toilet on her own, I hope she wasn't yelled at or hit and sent back to bed before she was even able to make it there! UGGGH.

 

[watergirl62]

Both have pinpoint pupils. Just noticing.

Why I do believe she looks higher than a Georgia pine.

 

[MaryG12]

MOO, EK deserves lethal injection

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cops-body-missing-3-old-155020944.html

 

[MyBelle]

Some kids who are abused will have bathroom issues such as bed wetting.

Very true. I just think her mentioning not just the underpants--but also the color--on the 911 call is odd.

 

[cluciano63]

Depending upon autopsy results...if cause of death can be determined, it may still be impossible to say she was intentionally killed, much less by which person. I feel like this is why they are using the term "unnatural death" and why the only major charge right now is concealing the body. This case might be difficult to prove as murder, if no one believable tells what happened. And how can either adult here be believed?

In the case I mentioned earlier (from ID last night) the mother hid the child's body and said she suffocated by accident in her bed. It could not really be proved as murder and she served about 15 years.

 

[margarita25]

rsbm

Mariah's father speaks on CPS documents, memories of his daughter

"The father of the 3-year-old who’s captured the hearts of the county and beyond laughed, even as tears dried on his cheeks, while he remembered his little girl.

“She loved to dance,” Alex Woods said of his daughter, Mariah. “Especially in the car.”

Standing next to him, Woods’ fiancé Heather Craft laughed along and they spoke of how Mariah would fall asleep in her car seat, cheese dust from a snack covering her face and clothing, but hear a good beat come on and she’d wake up and start bouncing her head along to the music.

Mariah loved her siblings, both her two brothers and Craft’s children, too. She’d wake up the whole house, running from bed to bed and telling everyone to get up, they said.

Craft’s daughter would carry Mariah around on her hip, and Craft said she and her children fell in love immediately with Mariah, with her big blue eyes and curly hair.

“She was just so smiley and happy and carefree,” Woods said. “She was a happy little baby.”"

 

[Mica]

Depending upon autopsy results...if cause of death can be determined, it may still be impossible to say she was intentionally killed, much less by which person. I feel like this is why they are using the term "unnatural death" and why the only major charge right now is concealing the body. This case might be difficult to prove as murder, if no one believable tells what happened. And how can either adult here be believed?

In the case I mentioned earlier (from ID last night) the mother hid the child's body and said she suffocated by accident in her bed. It could not really be proved as murder and she served about 15 years.

In a press conference the FBI agent said the case is now a homicide. They must have evidence to come to this conclusion, IMO. Though, I guess an accident can be classified as a homicide.

 

[margarita25]

Sorry for any reposts...

"The documents

The unverified documents dated Dec. 1 and released by Woods and Craft are reports after interviews done with Mariah’s two young brothers who, due to their ages, will not be named.

According to the document, the court believes there is a reasonable basis to believe that the boys have been exposed to “a substantial risk of physical injury or sexual abuse because of the parent, guardian, custodian, or caretaker has created conditions likely to cause injury or abuse or has failed to provide, or is unable to provide, adequate supervision or protection.”

“The respondent parents have a history of exposing the juveniles to adult situations and conversation during their ongoing custody battle,” according to the documents.

The documents also mention a history of altercations between Craft and Kristy Woods. Craft said Kristy Woods allegedly tried to run her over in front of the children."

http://www.jdnews.com/news/20171205/mariahs-father-speaks-on-cps-documents-memories-of-his-daughter