Found Deceased NC - Mariah Woods, 3, Onslow County, 27 Nov 2017 #9 *Arrest*

[Mica]

Officials: No New Updates On Mariah Woods Case


Officials confirmed there is no new information to release surrounding three-year-old Mariah Wood’s case Tuesday.

About a week out from the memorial service honoring Mariah Woods in Swansboro, officials are still waiting on more information to update the case.

No one has been charged with Woods’ death as of Tuesday afternoon and officials are still waiting on the autopsy report.

Maj. Chris Thomas with the Onslow County Sheriff’s office said it’s still too early to say when information will be released.

“We have nothing new to give out,” Thomas said. “When we have anything to release, we will release it.”

Reporter Kelsey Stiglitz can be reached at [email protected] or 910-219-8453.


http://www.jdnews.com/news/20171212/officials-no-new-updates-on-mariah-woods-case

 

[haven71]

Is it a fact that the son said all those things? Can you provide a link where I can read that? Thanks in advanced.

No, it is not a fact. Another poster and I were surmising a logical possibility based on EW's interview with Nancy Grace.

 

[Stunned]

Marking spot

 

[Hatfield]

Here's another case of mama's new man and dead baby:
A 24-year-old Oklahoma man faces upgraded charges to murder after a toddler died Monday from brutal injuries -- including being slammed into a wall so hard a hole was made -- after the baby would not go to sleep, police said.
Zachary Collins, 24, of Tulsa was originally arrested Saturday on child abuse and neglect after he allegedly threw his girlfriend's baby into furniture until the child was unconscious and quiet while he was babysitting Friday night.
He originally tried to blame another child for the baby's severe injuries, claiming a 3-year-old pushed the toddler off the bed.
Investigators said the injuries were too severe for officers to believe the story, and Collins later admitted he was behind the brutal assault. He also told police he drank a six-pack of beer and a half pint of tequila that night, the Tulsa World reported.
Collins, who is already involved in a separate domestic assault case, had his charges subsequently upgraded to murder.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/12/babysitter-allegedly-kills-toddler-by-throwing-him-against-walls-and-furniture-to-make-him-sleep.html

Let me guess - unemployed prize of a man watching some woman's extremely precious and vulnerable young child while she works?

Love his background. What a prize!

It seems like this excuse below is more common than I thought:

"He originally tried to blame another child for the baby's severe injuries, claiming a 3-year-old pushed the toddler off the bed."

 

[lonetraveler]

That bothers me too. I just can't see my hubby disposing of a body (let alone a child's body) just because I told him to.

It just doesn't sound right unless EK is mentally challenged to the point he just mindlessly obeys everything someone tell him to do.

No I think EK had a vested interest in hiding the body also. And I think KW took the attitude of "what is done is done" so now let's figure a way out of it.

JMO but I can see where a boyfriend would dispose of the body even if he didn't kill her if maybe the person who did kill her reminded him that if she wasn't disposed of, then it would come out that he had been sexually abusing her and that they would both go to prison. Just an opinion on the motivation to dispose of a body even if you were not the one who murdered her. JMO

 

[MyBelle]

I am sorry, but in most small towns/counties the odds of you recognizing someone are high. Every caseworker cannot stop what they are doing and call the office or contact the courts if they recognize a face. By your standards, if I were a case worker in the county I grew up in I would not be able to handle 90% of the cases I was given because I would either recognize the kid, the family name, or have gone to school with the parents or grand parents or have had contact with them socially at some point. I mean I cannot think of a place I have been in my home county where I have not gone into a business or a home and after speaking with someone for 10 minutes not realized I knew someone in a round about way or had someone say 'hey I know you, you are so and so's kid'. That's small town/county life. Come to think of it, I can go anywhere in a 3 county radius from my home county and have the same thing happen. Heck,I moved 6 hours away and still run into people who know my parents, etc...so by your standards I pretty much could not work anywhere in my state probably. Once you throw in my ex-husbands family and everyone knowing him where I now live, I really could not work anywhere in this state if I were a caseworker.

Onslow County NC has a population of nearly 200,000 people. That doesn't sound like a small county at all but it also doesn't matter because it is an ethical consideration. I find it hard to believe a caseworker has a difficult time disclosing a possible conflict of interest to a party you are being paid to investigate. If that happened in this case, it shouldn't have happened.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

JMO but I can see where a boyfriend would dispose of the body even if he didn't kill her if maybe the person who did kill her reminded him that if she wasn't disposed of, then it would come out that he had been sexually abusing her and that they would both go to prison. Just an opinion on the motivation to dispose of a body even if you were not the one who murdered her. JMO

BBM

As i said, EK had a vested interest in hiding the body.

 

[Mainemom76]

Law enforcement seems to know she was removed from the scene of her death, so they must have grounds to believe she was dead.

Very good point. JMO

 

[Doghairrules]

Here's another case of mama's new man and dead baby:
A 24-year-old Oklahoma man faces upgraded charges to murder after a toddler died Monday from brutal injuries -- including being slammed into a wall so hard a hole was made -- after the baby would not go to sleep, police said.
Zachary Collins, 24, of Tulsa was originally arrested Saturday on child abuse and neglect after he allegedly threw his girlfriend's baby into furniture until the child was unconscious and quiet while he was babysitting Friday night.
He originally tried to blame another child for the baby's severe injuries, claiming a 3-year-old pushed the toddler off the bed.
Investigators said the injuries were too severe for officers to believe the story, and Collins later admitted he was behind the brutal assault. He also told police he drank a six-pack of beer and a half pint of tequila that night, the Tulsa World reported.
Collins, who is already involved in a separate domestic assault case, had his charges subsequently upgraded to murder.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/12/babysitter-allegedly-kills-toddler-by-throwing-him-against-walls-and-furniture-to-make-him-sleep.html

Let me guess - unemployed prize of a man watching some woman's extremely precious and vulnerable young child while she works?

Love his background. What a prize!

Yep. And here’s another case of bio dad trying desperately to protect his child:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article189037514.html

 

[drama_farmer]

Hey Everyone,

People reading this thread would assume what you are posting without links is fact. That's what we need to avoid.

Thank you,
Tricia

*unless the fact is a widely known fact then you don't need to keep posting the link over and over. It's a grey area so you will have to use your judgment.

Snipped by me for relevance and space. BBM

Thanks so much for your guidance on this thread, and also thanks to all of the mods on every thread here at WS.

Just wishful thinking, I guess, but how great would it be if we were able to implement a sort of "hashtag" or keyword system that would allow sleuths to search a thread for something like "#fact"

I imagine it would a time-consuming ordeal to figure out how such a system would work, fraught with all sorts of issues, because even trusty MSM occasionally reports "facts" that turn out to be misquotes, misunderstandings, and/or conclusions drawn from scant/misunderstood/incomplete evidence, etc.

So, in reality, it might be impossible and/or impractical, but I can dream! Anyone else out there share the same dream? :moo::dunno:

 

[MarisaS1985]

Can I please ask a quick favor?

I read several amazing posts today but because I had no clue where the information came from, whether it was speculation, a theory or fact based. It read as though new information had come out and without links/reference or saying it was pure speculation and how these posts were worded it read as fact.

This is REALLY confusing and caused me to have to do a lot of googling trying to fact check things. I do that anyway, but if everyone could be really clear on where they heard something or what they are interpreting and use links that would be super helpful!!!

Thanks for all your theories and thoughts on what may have happened! Sorry for being off-topic!

 

[gitana1]

3-yrs old seems to be a very risky age for children at the moment, it's cropping up in what feels like an inordinate number of cases. I have no idea if that is observer bias or whether statistics might bear it out. I think that late two- and three-year old children can be very challenging for parents, and also the first 3 months or so when baby cries incessantly for hours for days and weeks on end, and the parent (or bf) doesn't have enough experience/patience to handle it. I am also thinking that 3 is an unusual age for an abductor to go for, so these could be key ages for parental (including partners of bio parents) murder of a child.

I would be interested to see stats on this.

It disgusts me on a human level as I feel nothing but maternal feelings for children of those ages, but I do feel those are particularly challenging times, and wonder on an intellectual level whether that is being borne out by stats.

To me, three is an age of "why? why?" and challenging the parent's authority and testing parents for how far they can be pushed. Not all parents cope well with this stage, parenting isn't always easy, it can be frustrating for the best of parents. It should *never* end in abusing or murdering a child, I am not making excuses, I'm wondering if these are key points, though, where those who don't have the patience are more likely to break into violence toward the child.

Kids in general are always at greater risk of abuse when mama has a new man:

While children living with their unmarried biological mother and her live-in boyfriend face a higher risk of suffering child abuse than kids in any other type of family, children who live with their own cohabiting parents are more likely to be abused than children of married parents.
(Emphasis by me).
https://ifstudies.org/blog/for-kids-parental-cohabitation-and-marriage-are-not-interchangeable/

A 2009 study by Lawrence Berger and colleagues examined whether Child Protective Services (CPS) involvement varied based on a man in the mother’s life.[1]Results of the 2009 study showed that families living with a man who was not the biological father of all the children in the home, and families living without a man in the home, were significantly more likely to be contacted by CPS compared to families in which the biological father of all the children lived with the mother.

The following year, a report on the National Incidence Study of Abuse and Neglect, which examines not only CPS cases but all reported incidences of abuse and neglect to community professionals, also found that maltreatment rates differed according to family structure.[2] Children living with their married biological parents had the lowest rate of abuse and neglect, whereas those living with a single parent who had a partner living in the household had the highest rate. Compared to children living with married biological parents, those whose single parent had a live-in partner were at least 8 times more likely to be maltreated in one way or another. They were 10 mores more likely to experience abuse and 8 times more likely to experience neglect.

A 2001 study by Aruna Radhakrishna and colleagues at the University of North Carolina followed 644 North Carolina newborns for eight years. These babies were mostly from families considered at high risk of abuse or neglect based on the characteristics of the mother and infant at birth. Researchers found that maltreatment was lowest among children who lived with two biological parents.[3] Maltreatment was most common in homes with a stepfather or boyfriend, with 80% of the maltreatment occurring between birth and age 4, 20% between ages 4-6, and 27% between ages 6-8. Unlike the 2009 study, however, this one found no significant difference in maltreatment rates between kids living with both parents and kids living with only their biological mother.
http://www.center4research.org/child-abuse-father-figures-kind-families-safest-grow/

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Can I please ask a quick favor?

I read several amazing posts today but because I had no clue where the information came from, whether it was speculation, a theory or fact based. It read as though new information had come out and without links/reference or saying it was pure speculation and how these posts were worded it read as fact.

This is REALLY confusing and caused me to have to do a lot of googling trying to fact check things. I do that anyway, but if everyone could be really clear on where they heard something or what they are interpreting and use links that would be super helpful!!!

Thanks for all your theories and thoughts on what may have happened! Sorry for being off-topic!

Here's a link to the media thread. Not quite a hashtag, but it might help.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=358692

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[gitana1]

Snipped by me for relevance and space. BBM

Thanks so much for your guidance on this thread, and also thanks to all of the mods on every thread here at WS.

Just wishful thinking, I guess, but how great would it be if we were able to implement a sort of "hashtag" or keyword system that would allow sleuths to search a thread for something like "#fact"

I imagine it would a time-consuming ordeal to figure out how such a system would work, fraught with all sorts of issues, because even trusty MSM occasionally reports "facts" that turn out to be misquotes, misunderstandings, and/or conclusions drawn from scant/misunderstood/incomplete evidence, etc.

So, in reality, it might be impossible and/or impractical, but I can dream! Anyone else out there share the same dream? :moo::dunno:

It is super easy to just say "IMO (In my opinion...)" or, "I believe..." or, "I think...". I do it all the time when it's speculation and not backed by links. It is no trouble. Somehow, people are very resistant to that or think that if there is a tagline in their signature about "Everything I say is my opinion" that should suffice. But while I get why some people do that (in some cases it could have to do with libel issues), just having a catch all phrase in the tag line doesn't help make things less confusing when pure speculation or opinion are stated.

It literally takes one second.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

It is super easy to just say "IMO (In my opinion...)" or, "I believe..." or, "I think...". I do it all the time when it's speculation and not backed by links. It is no trouble. Somehow, people are very resistant to that or think that if there is a tagline in their signature about "Everything I say is my opinion" that should suffice. But while I get why some people do that (in some cases it could have to do with libel issues), just having a catch all phrase in the tag line doesn't help make things less confusing when pure speculation or opinion are stated.

It literally takes one second.

And those of us who use tapatalk do not see the signature lines either.

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[gitana1]

The fact that the son said when Mariah was crying, KW or EK hit her, and KW told EK to get rid of her.

This really stood out to me today. I think it lends more credence towards KW being abusive to Mariah as well. Otherwise he might've said, "But I don't think so, because my mom never hits Mariah/us."

Also that KW told EK to get rid of her. That almost sounds like someone who had really lost it with their child, knew it, and was still angry about it, kind of like, "get her out of here, she's caused me enough trouble."

JMO of course.

Is it a fact that the son said all those things? Can you provide a link where I can read that? Thanks in advanced.

No, it is not a fact. Another poster and I were surmising a logical possibility based on EW's interview with Nancy Grace.

You said, "The fact that..." That's extremely misleading.

 

[tlcya]

excuse me, what thread am I on here? This surely can't be the Maria Woods thread.

I am really confounded as to why I see posts debating police shootings, police violence, police trumping up charges, etc in this thread devoted to a dead child.

Thread is closed for review. What in the actual . . . ??

 

[tlcya]

I can't believe I need to spell this out but here goes:

You either currently believe EK is capable of violence or you don't. The debate about how maybe the assault charges don't mean he assaulted someone violently ends now.

I cannot believe I just had to remove post after post discussing police shootings, mentally ill people shot by police and all manner of similar completely off topic debate from this thread.

Good Grief!

The thread is reopened.

 

[abeaman02]

I can't believe I need to spell this out but here goes:

You either currently believe EK is capable of violence or you don't. The debate about how maybe the assault charges don't mean he assaulted someone violently ends now.

I cannot believe I just had to remove post after post discussing police shootings, mentally ill people shot by police and all manner of similar completely off topic debate from this thread.

Good Grief!

The thread is reopened.

Thank you for for all you do even if it is something we should all know by now, and for keeping everyone in line.:tos:

 

[moonlessnight]

and there was a 2 yo boy in the next town over from me killed just a few days ago by... you guessed it - mom's live - in bf while she was at work. do they do this on purpose as soon as they are alone with the child or can they just not deal with children at all? bf's are not free childcare for crissakes.

https://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Man-arrested-after-SeaTac-toddler-s-death-12414209.php

and of course this one from Saturday - mom's bf kills child trying to make him sleep. http://whdh.com/news/man-kills-girl...lly-beating-him-to-make-him-sleep-police-say/
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"Police told the station that it is unclear if anyone else will face charges in the boy’s death, saying prosecutors have charged mothers in the past for leaving their children with violent boyfriends."[/FONT]

Is this the same as the live in bf who.killed the three year old for not putting on her pajamas?

Way too many murdered 3 yr old girls on the last month...

ETA it's not. This one was in Missouri.

http://www.newsweek.com/man-accused...hree-year-old-daughter-not-putting-her-745500

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