Found Deceased NC - Mariah Woods, 3, Onslow County, 27 Nov 2017 #9 *Arrest*

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  • #701
So..I totally forgot about the Walmart photo! After I posted, I went on over to the media thread. Did the false sighting cause some if the players to have to change course. Anyone who *knew* she was dead could have not have forseen a credible sighting to happen so quickly. Maybe that is what got a presumably female family member to start talking? When does that sighting fit in the timeline of public interviews and info and arrests?
 
  • #702
Uh oh! Something just ran thru my mind. With KW knowing her son had been SA, supposed to be monitored around other children (Mariah being one), allegations of Mariah having been SA by EK, nobody working in that household, do you think they might have been filming and selling child 🤬🤬🤬🤬? Makes me sick to think about, but ..........

I have thought about this as well, in the court documents KW alleges that HC kids are sexually abused. (screen shot on post 248 of this thread) alot of SA claims going on does make me wonder what all these children have been exposed to.
 
  • #703
So..I totally forgot about the Walmart photo! After I posted, I went on over to the media thread. Did the false sighting cause some if the players to have to change course. Anyone who *knew* she was dead could have not have forseen a credible sighting to happen so quickly. Maybe that is what got a presumably female family member to start talking? When does that sighting fit in the timeline of public interviews and info and arrests?

This was so poorly written. I'm sorry.

My point was if anyone lied and thought they could outsmart LE and the public, maybe this false sighting of a possible Mariah tripped someone up. If I'm a grieving parent claiming my child is missing and I know she is dead, I'm going to have all kinds of wrong reactions to the news of a possible sighting of a living child. I would think.
 
  • #704
So..I totally forgot about the Walmart photo! After I posted, I went on over to the media thread. Did the false sighting cause some if the players to have to change course. Anyone who *knew* she was dead could have not have forseen a credible sighting to happen so quickly. Maybe that is what got a presumably female family member to start talking? When does that sighting fit in the timeline of public interviews and info and arrests?
[FONT=&quot]JACKSONVILLE, N.C. — The Onslow County sheriff on Wednesday morning said surveillance photos circulated in [/FONT]the search for Mariah Kay Woods[FONT=&quot], 3, are not the missing girl.


http://wavy.com/2017/11/29/new-photos-released-in-search-for-missing-3-year-old-in-north-carolina/
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  • #705
I have thought about this as well, in the court documents KW alleges that HC kids are sexually abused. (screen shot on post 248 of this thread) alot of SA claims going on does make me wonder what all these children have been exposed to.
I don't think it's right to bring HC kids into this, yes it's an allegation KW made but her credibility is zero. IMO.
 
  • #706
I don't think it's right to bring HC kids into this, yes it's an allegation KW made but her credibility is zero. IMO.

Wasn't trying to drag anyones kids into anything - was responding to a post regarding SA and was pointing out the number of SA claims surrounding this case. What I do agree with there is no point in discussing if the allegations are true or not.
 
  • #707
I am not putting as much weight into AW statements about what KW dad supposedly said regarding what happened to Mariah in the NG interview and I am not drawing the conclusion that the son is the one he is referring to that told grandpa anything that some are. This interview was done after Mariah was found and AW is angry rightly so. He also states in the interview that it could even be KW that killed Mariah, yet in his court documents there is not one allegation from him that KW physically was harming the children, even the statement regarding the son not wanting to go home because mom was mean and doesn't pay attention to us - the son didn't say didn't want to go home because mom hurts us.

Until the cause of death is released we do not know if Mariah cried or there was a loud commotion. I can very easily see a mom asleep, EK comes crawling in bed at 3:30 am she wakes up and he uses excuse that he was out stealing dressers, if she was use to him leaving at night or coming to bed at strange hours it would not of phased her one bit if she heard the door she would just think it was him going out and wouldn't of gotten up to check. Now if Mariah cried that would be a different thing and I would expect her to wake up and go check. We also don't know what she told LE right away with regard to EK.

It may very well turn out that KW was involved or knew what happened, I just can't reach that conclusion yet based on AW statements just too many holes and timing of interview for me to make it work. Once the holes are filled in I may think completely differently about it all.

Oh I can reach that conclusion based on the fact that she didn't immediately call the father of the missing child, you know, the one she had been in a custody dispute with.

KW REALLY makes me mad with her lack of glasses and makeup. Does she think she is America’s Next Top Model? Sorry, not sorry.. she, to me, is so narcissistic to worry about her appearance when her baby is missing.


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If her hair was different she'd be ready to go clubbin'.
 
  • #708
I have thought about this as well, in the court documents KW alleges that HC kids are sexually abused. (screen shot on post 248 of this thread) alot of SA claims going on does make me wonder what all these children have been exposed to.

I thought AW was claiming his and KW's oldest son had SA someone and should not be left alone around other children. I'm having trouble reading his writing but I didn't see anything that made me think HC's kids were SA. I thought this was written by AW. Am I confused?
 
  • #709
Wasn't trying to drag anyones kids into anything - was responding to a post regarding SA and was pointing out the number of SA claims surrounding this case. What I do agree with there is no point in discussing if the allegations are true or not.

Yes. I think the point we are trying to get at is there seems to be allegations swirling of child SA on more than one child in the mix. Seems like a focus in this case.
 
  • #710
Yes. I think the point we are trying to get at is there seems to be allegations swirling of child SA on more than one child in the mix. Seems like a focus in this case.

JMO...Seems to be KW saying whatever you say about me, I’m gonna say about you. You accuse my BF, I’ll accuse your GF. Childish behavior at the expense of the children! Again, JMHO.


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  • #711
This was so poorly written. I'm sorry.

My point was if anyone lied and thought they could outsmart LE and the public, maybe this false sighting of a possible Mariah tripped someone up. If I'm a grieving parent claiming my child is missing and I know she is dead, I'm going to have all kinds of wrong reactions to the news of a possible sighting of a living child. I would think.

zelda you make an excellent point. she "disappeared" then two days after it was reported, a possible sighting 42 miles away? that's enough to spook anyone watching volunteers scramble the local woods.

if the long arm of the law could extend to morehead city that early on...if i had any information withheld, i'd speak up simply out of fear...

hm...haven't had a post make me think this deep in a while...
 
  • #712
I thought AW was claiming his and KW's oldest son had SA someone and should not be left alone around other children. I'm having trouble reading his writing but I didn't see anything that made me think HC's kids were SA. I thought this was written by AW. Am I confused?

It is in post 248 of the screenshot at the very bottom - yes it was written by AW claiming KW alleged it. I want to be perfectly clear - i was responding to a post regarding SA and possibly filming etc - was pointing out we have numerous children where SA allegations have been made which gives pause and makes you consider if there is something more to it.
 
  • #713
Uh oh! Something just ran thru my mind. With KW knowing her son had been SA, supposed to be monitored around other children (Mariah being one), allegations of Mariah having been SA by EK, nobody working in that household, do you think they might have been filming and selling child 🤬🤬🤬🤬? Makes me sick to think about, but ..........

BBM - That horrible thought entered my mind after a poster previously mentioned the notion that Mariah had probably been stuck in the house every day/all day with the unemployed “mother” & EK. Disgusting to think about & I pray it didn’t happen.....
 
  • #714
It has been said that mom alluded to the eldest child causing harm to M. If this were the case, there'd be no need to protect the child, or themselves, from prosecution. There's been times when all of us, cousins, siblings, etc... have played, alone, or together, of varying ages, and could have gotten badly hurt/or died. Parents cannot be everywhere. This goes for me and my own.

I went through a plate glass chasing my younger sibling. I could have easily died, trying to get to him. My brother about knocked me silly, when he nailed me, with a big ole rock upside the head, we didn't think my cousin would survive childhood, and were terrified of his eldest sibling (yet we all played together). None of us died during childhood, but we were injured. Same goes for my kids.

Sometimes elder siblings/cousins/neighbor kids, are too rough with littler ones. My oldest could be rough. I kept a watch but couldn't keep eyes glued constantly. And, sometimes kids do, just fall out of trees, while playing Tarzan, turn their go-karts over, or, get thrown from ponies, etc... and it is what it is. What I'm getting at, is, even if she'd been supposed to watch the eldest, around other children, accidents can still happen. As OP said, he could have been trying out the latest wrestling move, (I've had to come down on mine for that), and hurt her badly, internally, but that would be an accident, and zero reason to hide her body. There would be every reason to seek medical attention.

I'm not letting mom off the hook yet. Mothers, (bio parents), can be just as guilty as anyone else re; abusing children in the household and even more-so. I think, if true, and she's tossing some blame on her eldest, she's doing so to save her own hide, and probably that of EK, for being complicit.



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Lots of interesting data in this source, from the Children's Bureau, an Office of the Administration for Children and Families.
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/cb/resource/child-maltreatment-2014

Mom blames son for child's death
http://www.ibtimes.com/mariah-woods...-north-carolina-toddlers-death-report-2623894
 

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  • #715
JMO...Seems to be KW saying whatever you say about me, I’m gonna say about you. You accuse my BF, I’ll accuse your GF. Childish behavior at the expense of the children! Again, JMHO.



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That is very very possible except these allegations were made before any allegations were made against EK. I don't believe we need to dig into whether they are true or not. It concerns me because I think in most peoples mind SA allegations isn't something that comes to mind regarding their children even when fighting for custody or angry with one another, so I have to consider what exposure or lifestyle is present to make these allegations being thrown around and did SA play a role in Mariahs death.
 
  • #716
It is in post 248 of the screenshot at the very bottom - yes it was written by AW claiming KW alleged it. I want to be perfectly clear - i was responding to a post regarding SA and possibly filming etc - was pointing out we have numerous children where SA allegations have been made which gives pause and makes you consider if there is something more to it.

Aw. Now I understand better. (post 248)
And what I was originally pointing out was what you were responding to......the numerous SA on the children allegations and what might have been going on. There seems to be enough talk throughout that it causes my mind to wander into other depths.
 
  • #717
That is very very possible except these allegations were made before any allegations were made against EK. I don't believe we need to dig into whether they are true or not. It concerns me because I think in most peoples mind SA allegations isn't something that comes to mind regarding their children even when fighting for custody or angry with one another, so I have to consider what exposure or lifestyle is present to make these allegations being thrown around and did SA play a role in Mariahs death.

And, I wonder if KW participated in anyway, perhaps with a camera.
 
  • #718
Oh I can reach that conclusion based on the fact that she didn't immediately call the father of the missing child, you know, the one she had been in a custody dispute with.



If her hair was different she'd be ready to go clubbin'.
Something thing that has bothered me is the "story" about, on the night that Mariah disappeared, Mariah was up at midnight and he told KW, that he told Mariah to go back to bed. I would think, KW would have gone to check on Mariah, to see why she was up.
 
  • #719
Something thing that has bothered me is the "story" about, on the night that Mariah disappeared, Mariah was up at midnight and he told KW, that he told Mariah to go back to bed. I would think, KW would have gone to check on Mariah, to see why she was up.

Do we know if EK told KW that at midnight hey Mariah got up I told her to go back to bed - or is that a story he told her after KW noticed her missing.
 
  • #720
Something thing that has bothered me is the "story" about, on the night that Mariah disappeared, Mariah was up at midnight and he told KW, that he told Mariah to go back to bed. I would think, KW would have gone to check on Mariah, to see why she was up.

Also, I think most people with 3 yr olds know that you can't just say 'go back to bed' and then the 3 yr old simply turns and goes back to bed, no problem.

You will hear one of several reasons why they cant go back to bed yet---thirsty, hungry, potty time, bad dream, not tired, etc etc...

There is usually a bit of negotiations necessary to get a 3 yr old to return to their bed. A glass of water, a hug, etc.

So I always thought it was weird that he just said ' I told her to go back to bed...' In a normal interaction there would have been mention of her getting a sip of water or using the potty, then going back to bed, in my opinion.
 
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