GUILTY NC - Melissa Huggins-Jones, 30, murdered in her Raleigh home, 14 May 2013

  • #41
The family must know something if they told LE that Melissa had deleted her FB. I would guess she told her family why she did that.

From what I glean from the FB page (Remembering Melissa), it sounds like she went to a work party Friday, did not have a date. I believe the family member was quoted as saying she deleted FB Saturday. Sunday Melissa went to Elizabethtown to see her family. Monday night at 11:30 she texted with a friend.

Hopefully, LE has a feel for whether this is: 1) someone close; 2) a stalker-type; or, 3) random. They keep everything so close to the vest, and I understand why. But how scary not knowing whether there's a random killer loose.

But they're definitely saying publicly that "we have her FB info." They must want the public to know that for some reason.

I sure hope they have her other data, too (phone, email, etc.).
 
  • #42
Was Melissa dating anyone?

She was 'dateless' the previous Friday and what looks like a co-worker from FB page stated he wished he had driven over there now. :confused:

Confused because it didn't happen Friday night, so maybe it is grief 'speaking'.
 
  • #43
That's something I wonder as well. Also, some of the online articles have a comment section. I just read something in a comment that suggested there were a rash of break-ins that night. I think the comment mentioned vehicles, as in breaking into several vehicles & stealing whatever's in them. Could it all be related?

The type of people breaking into vehicles are drug users looking for GPS, iPads, iPods, etc., things to sell for quick cash. Apartment complex and hotel parking lots are the ideal place to hit. These people are not into murder, as a rule.

From all the silence on this case, it seems to me the RPD must have an idea of where they are going! The comment above about the possibility of a construction worker with a passkey is scary! Perhaps that is why the other residents in that building are staying elsewhere. Hmmm?

Thoughts and prayers to her family. Special love sent to her little girl and son. He will probably carry a terrible guilt because he wasn't with her. We know he wouldn't have been able to help, but that is how sons think.
 
  • #44
Hmmm... Other residents of the building are staying elsewhere until investigators finish with the crime scene? Does that include neighbors of her apartment or other residents of her apartment? Why would a neighbor have to stay anywhere other than their own apartment if the crime didnt occur in their apartment?

I live in this area of Raleigh, about a mile away from these apartments, so this case is really hitting home for me.

The way I read it from the news reports is that they don't know if this was totally random so they've suggested others in the complex (she was the only one in her building) stay elsewhere.

I inferred two possible things--they don't know if someone involved in the construction was involved (maybe there were no signs of forced entry) and/or given how empty the buildings still are--with no one to hear any cries of distress--it may be just be safer to stay elsewhere for the time being.

It's generally a very safe area, aside from a rash of car break-ins throughout Midtown in recent months. As 1&2&3 said, those more seem to be addicts or teens looking for things to sell for quick cash. There was one car break-in on her street that night and a burglary reported the day she was discovered at 2PM. But that could have been from the night before or even a few days before if they broke into an unoccupied apt to take stuff.

Would a construction worker even have a master pass key? I'd imagine they're just given the locks to install while the unit keys are kept behind at the rental office.

The good thing is, since the complex is still under construction, maybe there's a better chance to find footprints in the dirt/fingerprints in dust or whatnot outside her building.

One thing that has always made me nervous about apartment complexes is it's so easy to go online and get a floor plan. If someone was out to get her, it would be so easy to figure out which room she'd be sleeping in.
 
  • #45
When I lived in an apartment there was an attic access in the ceiling of a closet. It gave me the creeps to think that a person might be able to crawl through from one unit to another. A construction worker who helped build that building would know if there was any place he could slip through up there to get from one apartment to another. They are supposed to be completely walled off but who knows if that is very closely checked during building inspections or not? I would imagine that in a large apt building the inspector might get up there and closely inspect one or two and assume that the rest were built accordingly.


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  • #46
When I lived in an apartment there was an attic access in the ceiling of a closet. It gave me the creeps to think that a person might be able to crawl through from one unit to another. A construction worker who helped build that building would know if there was any place he could slip through up there to get from one apartment to another. They are supposed to be completely walled off but who knows if that is very closely checked during building inspections or not? I would imagine that in a large apt building the inspector might get up there and closely inspect one or two and assume that the rest were built accordingly.


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You know, I saw a true crime case just like that on one of those mystery/forensics shows once so you had a good reason to be creeped out!

These aren't large buildings, they're garden-style. But I agree--it's probably not even something a building inspector would think much about checking. Especially since the developer is pretty well respected in the community.

If anyone is interested, I drove over there today to scope out the situation. Like I said, it's literally a stone's throw from my house, on the other side of the beltline (our word for a beltway).

I only saw one building ready for occupancy, but there must be at least one other--probably back toward a pool area. It's so under construction right now that I felt really conspicuous driving around too much.

Crime scene tape was cut so people could get in and out and construction was back in full force. Judging from the amount of yellow tape, and the empty and occupied police cars, I believe she was in the same building as the model home--which is right along the road. Could not tell which floor.

I walked up to the police officer in one car and asked if he thought it would be safe for me to move in there. He said it wasn't normally his beat but it's usually a really good area. I asked if he would let his daughter move in there and he said yes, he would.

In retrospect, I wish I'd approached it from the angle of angle asking why they told other residents to stay elsewhere. Because he's probably sitting there looking at this luxury apt community in a nice neighborhood and thinking it's nicer than where he lives!

So I'm not sure you can infer much from his answer. :(

The other road her building is on (Ramblewood) backs up to the sound wall for the interstate. Single family homes in that neighborhood are at least $500K+, one is currently for sale at $900k.

While you could use the road by her building to cut over from one main road (Six Forks) to another largish one (Lassiter Mill), there's really no reason to. Anything worth walking to (grocery, etc) would be on Six Forks. Lassiter Mill is just a long street of more $500k+ houses. And if you're going to North Hills, you're better to just stay on one of those streets b/c Ramblewood is so long and windy.

(BTW I'm only talking home values b/c I think we tend to think of apartments as being in not-so-great areas. That is definitely not the case here.)

The whole little neighborhood has a ton of construction going on though. Even a vendor I talked to couldn't seem to keep straight what was what. Her apts are going in on the site of an older apt complex that was razed. A small enclave of new single family homes is being built just behind it. And new upscale townhomes are being built behind that, although a good chunk of those are finished.

I wouldn't say the neighborhood is isolated. But it's not typical of neighborhoods closer to downtown where people travel through them to get other places and where a big boost in property values has created more of a mixed situation in terms of housing and income.

Bottom line, no way someone was just wandering by those apts that night and spotted her in a window or whatnot.
 
  • #47
  • #48
Just to add...

This news story said she "deleted" her FB page to keep her ex from knowing she was "coming back into town" (to Cleveland or Elizabethtown, where they were from, I guess) from Raleigh.

I put deleted in quotes b/c a friend on her FB memorial page said it was just temporary and for personal reasons and she was planning to put it back up this week--which is more of a deactivation/reactivation scenario than a full delete.

And that would make sense. Because while it's deactivated, any of her family or friends could post updates or pics of her in their timelines but they wouldn't be broadcast to all of her FB friends (which probably includes her son's account, which dad can probably see).

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It also said their divorce was finalized in January.
 
  • #49
Thinking on the fact that the place was empty except the building she was in. Thinking about how very many people could have access in many different ways. (the attic access idea creeps me out big time).

Sounds like a pretty big complex. I know many complexes in my area that make use of the "master" key, which is sort of like a dummy key that opens all units. It is used by complex personnel, realtors or leasing agents, maintenance men, etc.

What with construction going on I wonder about which individuals who may not be the normal ones who only had access recently due to the construction around the complex.
 
  • #50
What with construction going on I wonder about which individuals who may not be the normal ones who only had access recently due to the construction around the complex.

Oh for sure. I saw probably 10-15 construction workers in the immediate vicinity of the building. I didn't see any trades people, but I wasn't really looking for them and I'm sure they're around too.

Also, being in the same building as the model home (which it looks like they plan to move across the street, once that building is done) and not much parking right there, you've got plenty of opportunity to run into strangers.

I also noticed on their website (www.allisternorthhills.com) there's only one floor plan currently available. That would make it pretty easy to figure out where she was in the apt even if you hadn't ever been in it.

She reportedly also went to a party a co-worker hosted that Friday night. Again, another chance should could have met someone creepy.

I know the stats about the likelihood of it being the ex. I guess I just hate to think he would leave her body for the daughter to find. Although again, I know it's happened before.

But I also don't see how he could have made that 7 hour trip to and from Raleigh between the time the son went to bed and the daughter discovered her mom the next AM.

And I don't necessarily think the ex would have to be stalkerish for her to temporarily deactivate her FB... Maybe she didn't want to worry that he'd just show up somewhere to talk (or fight) or want him to know she was going to visit another man. Or maybe he had just been making a lot of snide remarks about her social life lately and she was just tired of it.

I guess only time will tell. For the sake of her family and friends, I just hope it's not a long time.
 
  • #51
It's been reported that she had family nearby (I think an hour or so away?) and that she had taken a job at a local bank in the area.

Yes, Kaylynn -- one article said she grew up in Elizabethtown, NC -- E'town, as we used to call it, is about 25 miles from where I grew up. It's a close-knit little town of about 3,800 people. E'town is about 90 miles SE of Raleigh.

I wonder how LE will determine if the crime was random or not? I guess that's where the investigators come into the picture. It's prolly going to be more complicated since she hadn't been in Raleigh very long. So I guess our LE will be doing a lot of communication by phone, email and squad car with her old location and friends.

Could she have been noticed by a construction worker, plumber, inspector, contractor, electrician or other personnel having to do with the completion of the apartments in that area? Someone she had spoken with having to do with the apartment? Endless possibilities.

Since the apt was new, and would have, I assume, few "outside" fingerprints or footprints, that might be a help. And lifts should be easy to obtain since appliances, light switches, walls, doors, etc., should be pretty clean. We'll see....

And thanks, Kaylynn, for starting this thread.
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  • #52
So if she sent a text just before midnight to a friend and is cold as ice by 7.30am, I'd guess she was murdered closer to midnight. MOO

Rip Melissa.

Hmmm, beanz, that makes sense...

Did she go out on a date with a wacko, heaven forbid? If so, and if they went out to eat or to a movie or something, nobody would have prolly known her to notice -- thus maybe not many hotline tips. She was pretty enuff to notice, however, so maybe that could produce a lead.

Maybe her daughter saw or heard something -- she seems to be pretty aware of things...

And there's always the old standby: "Maybe somebody saw something," but I'm guessing there weren't that many people close by, either. Grrrrr.
 
  • #53
I'm from Nc and haven't seen this in the news! How sad! I hope they find out who is responsible. Have they stated cause of death?


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  • #54
I wonder why cod hasn't been released. I also wonder if she was raped?


She was 'dateless' the previous Friday and what looks like a co-worker from FB page stated he wished he had driven over there now. :confused:

Confused because it didn't happen Friday night, so maybe it is grief 'speaking'.

Maybe she was sad about not having a date and he wished that he had gone with her.

Hmmm, beanz, that makes sense...

Did she go out on a date with a wacko, heaven forbid? If so, and if they went out to eat or to a movie or something, nobody would have prolly known her to notice -- thus maybe not many hotline tips. She was pretty enuff to notice, however, so maybe that could produce a lead.

Maybe her daughter saw or heard something -- she seems to be pretty aware of things...

And there's always the old standby: "Maybe somebody saw something," but I'm guessing there weren't that many people close by, either. Grrrrr.

bbm - I'm also thinking about her poor daughter. Did she sleep through the assault? I guess she did, because she found her in the morning, probably after waking up. Poor girl! :(

Makes me believe she didn't scream otherwise the daughter would have woken up. Also if she had been shot the daughter probably would have woken. My guess is she was stabbed. Either personal (a new date? hence the disabled fb?) or a rapist/killer?

I can't imagine the father being involved, because a) he lives a 7 hour drive away, and b) he wouldn't have left his daughter to wake up to this.

Very sad. RIP beautiful woman!
 
  • #55
I wonder why cod hasn't been released. I also wonder if she was raped?

Maybe she was sad about not having a date and he wished that he had gone with her.

bbm - I'm also thinking about her poor daughter. Did she sleep through the assault? I guess she did, because she found her in the morning, probably after waking up. Poor girl! :(

Makes me believe she didn't scream otherwise the daughter would have woken up. Also if she had been shot the daughter probably would have woken. My guess is she was stabbed. Either personal (a new date? hence the disabled fb?) or a rapist/killer?

I can't imagine the father being involved, because a) he lives a 7 hour drive away, and b) he wouldn't have left his daughter to wake up to this.

Very sad. RIP beautiful woman!

BBM

We know from reports the bed was covered in blood. If the daughter never heard screams or a gunshot, then you have to think she has had her throat slashed.
My guess is she was stabbed multiple times. :(
 
  • #56
BBM

We know from reports the bed was covered in blood. If the daughter never heard screams or a gunshot, then you have to think she has had her throat slashed.
My guess is she was stabbed multiple times. :(

I had the same thoughts too Elainera and jellybeanz.
I think the person who murdered her might have intended to murder her, so I think she was targeted. Also, for the fact that the little girl did not hear/wake during the night makes me think the attack was quick (or while she was sleeping) so that there was no noise or disturbance.

And I agree with others - the murder must have known which room she was in - I think the perpetrator knew that there was another person in the house, and made sure the child's room wasn't targeted, not the child was disturbed.

But the murderer would have to have a lot of guts (or planning) to go in there knowing that there was another person in the home, kill the woman and then escape. What if the child had woken and gone to see whats happening? Unless they knew the child and the child knew them and they could cover themselves somehow for being there.

Because of the amount of blood, I thought it may have been throat too - though Im not sure because of the daughters call for help to the workman - she mentioned the blood, but didn't mention that her mother had injuries - she may not have been able to see them if she was faced down though.

Even the 911 call - didn't seem to mention injuries (though they may have edited that part) - the caller had to touch her arm to say she was cold - though I'm sure he was under the impression that she was deceased.
Did she not look deceased - even with the amount of blood on her?
:dunno:
 
  • #57
I had the same thoughts too Elainera and jellybeanz.
I think the person who murdered her might have intended to murder her, so I think she was targeted. Also, for the fact that the little girl did not hear/wake during the night makes me think the attack was quick (or while she was sleeping) so that there was no noise or disturbance.

And I agree with others - the murder must have known which room she was in - I think the perpetrator knew that there was another person in the house, and made sure the child's room wasn't targeted, not the child was disturbed.

But the murderer would have to have a lot of guts (or planning) to go in there knowing that there was another person in the home, kill the woman and then escape. What if the child had woken and gone to see whats happening? Unless they knew the child and the child knew them and they could cover themselves somehow for being there.

Because of the amount of blood, I thought it may have been throat too - though Im not sure because of the daughters call for help to the workman - she mentioned the blood, but didn't mention that her mother had injuries - she may not have been able to see them if she was faced down though.

Even the 911 call - didn't seem to mention injuries (though they may have edited that part) - the caller had to touch her arm to say she was cold - though I'm sure he was under the impression that she was deceased.
Did she not look deceased - even with the amount of blood on her?

:dunno:

bbm

I think the person knew she was deceased but, prompted by the 911 responder to lie her flat and check her, touched her and then realized she was cold and said there is nothing to be done. I think I would do the same. I'm no doctor, I don't have any medical training, and would always do what a professional tells me rather than go by my layman impression, kwim?

You're right, the killer had a lot of guts. He got in somehow without waking anybody, both Melissa and her daughter probably asleep, then went right into her bedroom and killed her. Why?? Was something stolen too? Was she raped?

Or maybe she brought him home, but wouldn't the girl tell police that? I doubt she would put the girl to bed and go out again to find a date for the night. Or she had a late visitor?

Could it have something to do with her job, her recent promotion?
 
  • #58
My personal opinion is that she didn't go on a date (not that night at least) and that she didn't leave the house.

I think she put her daughter to bed and sometime after midnight an intruder (whether someone she knew, or a stranger) came in and she was murdered sometime close to midnight. It would have had to be between 12-2AM, in my opinion, if she was already ice cold by morning.

I just don't think she put her daughter to bed and went out that night with anyone.

I wonder if she went anywhere that day though (whether with her daughter or not). I lived in NC for several years and still have family in that area (within about 10 miles of where this crime occurred). The area has a lot to do between shopping, restaurants, and easy access into numerous suburbs of Raleigh, downtown, etc. If she went anywhere that day and someone spotted her, followed her home, then returned that night? It's far fetched (as I'm not very convinced this was random) but it could have happened.
 
  • #59
FYI- according to the memorial group set up for Melissa on Facebook, it sounds like her funeral was either today or tomorrow morning.

Reading the messages left by her friends & family is heartbreaking. :(
 
  • #60
Wonder why LE is so tight lipped? If this was a random attack/rape, public should know and be warned that a rapist is in the area, and the more info provided the better, no?
 

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