NC - Melvin Levine, renowned pediatrician and pedophile*found deceased*
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I believe the man is guilty. The fact that he told the parents to stay in the waiting room is red flag 101. It's completely against any sort of protocol to examine a child naked alone.
However I do have to ask, as a mother. My sons have had their genitals examined by the doctor and I step out of the room because I do not want to embarass them. It is usually a quick check and feel. Is this not normal?
How would a child determine that it was "prolonged." I'm just wondering if he thought he could cover it up by saying it was routine. I'd like to hear more of the victims stories.
However I do have to ask, as a mother. My sons have had their genitals examined by the doctor and I step out of the room because I do not want to embarass them. It is usually a quick check and feel. Is this not normal?
How would a child determine that it was "prolonged." I'm just wondering if he thought he could cover it up by saying it was routine. I'd like to hear more of the victims stories.
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oh my god.
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Chewy, probably the most significant proof is that he had no standing to be doing any physical exams. This is why he gave up his license to practice-there was no medical justification for a psychiatrist to be touching his patients genitals. None.
Believe09, you won't like this in memoriam blog, which extols Levine's work and ignores the victims:
http://departingthetext.blogspot.co...howComment=1298322920426#c4452291191883666829
http://departingthetext.blogspot.co...howComment=1298322920426#c4452291191883666829
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D'oh-I got my doctors confused.
Again, there is no protocol for a physcian who "specialized" in learning disabilities to request his patients to drop their trousers.
I've dealt with my own rage towards Levine for quite a while. What galls me right now is that even news sources and blogs which know better are still referring to the man as Dr. Levine and lauding his accolades. There seems to be only a passing glance back at the massive abuse case. He's former Dr. Levine. He was disgraced.
The only discussion that I can brook concerning his death is the conundrum of what to do about his body of work. I fully agree with Believe that much might have been bogus but I do think that some of his original ideas filtered down into the very fibre of what we know as special education today. That can't be extracted.
Like Gajdusek, though, IMO, we have to wait for another researcher to build on a more solid and moral foundation.
The only discussion that I can brook concerning his death is the conundrum of what to do about his body of work. I fully agree with Believe that much might have been bogus but I do think that some of his original ideas filtered down into the very fibre of what we know as special education today. That can't be extracted.
Like Gajdusek, though, IMO, we have to wait for another researcher to build on a more solid and moral foundation.
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It's funny-I used to have a roomate in college who was a double chem/biology major and never ever received less than a perfect score on any exam. It was annoying, lol. But she looked like Stevie Nicks and was free with her affection. Yet, when she went to her classes she would wind her hair up in a bun, put on her spectacles and be something completely different from the woman I saw everyday. It bordered on the bizarre.
Levine was adept at moving through the world of adults, apparently, I mean to a degree. I wonder how those who worked with him every single day felt about him? Facades can only be kept for so long...after a while the true man peaks out.
Maybe he believed that what he was doing was OK. Maybe Ayres, Rife and Levine all felt that they were exempt because they "did good" with the patients they didnt molest. I think they felt entitled.
The Hippocratic Oath states "Do NO Harm" do I have that correct?
How does that apply here, not only to the situation with this monster in a lab coat, but to the colleagues who continue to express their affection and admiration for him.
Dont they get what they are saying? Dont they get what they are condoning?
Levine was adept at moving through the world of adults, apparently, I mean to a degree. I wonder how those who worked with him every single day felt about him? Facades can only be kept for so long...after a while the true man peaks out.
Maybe he believed that what he was doing was OK. Maybe Ayres, Rife and Levine all felt that they were exempt because they "did good" with the patients they didnt molest. I think they felt entitled.
The Hippocratic Oath states "Do NO Harm" do I have that correct?
How does that apply here, not only to the situation with this monster in a lab coat, but to the colleagues who continue to express their affection and admiration for him.
Dont they get what they are saying? Dont they get what they are condoning?
I was just checking on Dr. Phillip Riback, the NY pediatric neurologist who was found guilty of a number of sex crimes against children, served some time, and then was released pending the granting of a new trial. Just when it was set to begin, he pleaded guilty. In return for that guilty plea, he walked.
Anyway, in searching about how his crime is presented on the web, I found this:
http://www.healthgrades.com/directo...r-phillip-riback-md-fda75346/background-check
This is what I'd like to see for all the doctors who have had their licenses revoked or who have surrendered them. This site even states that it is common practice for doctors with sanctions to move to another state and set up practice again.
He's the one who played sick "drooling games" with his patients, masturbated them and sodomized them.
Nice to know that he's walking free. Can anyone figure out where Riback studied?
I guess his dad was wrong:
http://www.aninchfrommurder.com/blog/archives/2004/10/riback_sentence.php
"...Riback's family still insists he is an upstanding doctor who was wrongly accused. Father Arnold Riback said, "As a pediatric neurologist, he saved a tremendous number of lives. He has helped many people live a good life. I think in the future he'll be exonerated."
FWIW, Believe, I strongly believe in the "entitlement" component. The Judge Herrick, who found Riback guilty, said:
"You are Phillip Riback, however, I think in the truest sense of the word, a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde."
Anyway, in searching about how his crime is presented on the web, I found this:
http://www.healthgrades.com/directo...r-phillip-riback-md-fda75346/background-check
This is what I'd like to see for all the doctors who have had their licenses revoked or who have surrendered them. This site even states that it is common practice for doctors with sanctions to move to another state and set up practice again.
He's the one who played sick "drooling games" with his patients, masturbated them and sodomized them.
Nice to know that he's walking free. Can anyone figure out where Riback studied?
I guess his dad was wrong:
http://www.aninchfrommurder.com/blog/archives/2004/10/riback_sentence.php
"...Riback's family still insists he is an upstanding doctor who was wrongly accused. Father Arnold Riback said, "As a pediatric neurologist, he saved a tremendous number of lives. He has helped many people live a good life. I think in the future he'll be exonerated."
FWIW, Believe, I strongly believe in the "entitlement" component. The Judge Herrick, who found Riback guilty, said:
"You are Phillip Riback, however, I think in the truest sense of the word, a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde."
The entitlement issue works in a number of different ways, IMO. Pedophiles in the helping professions have "given" to their communities. They are the ones who save lives, protect lives, teach, coach, serve on boards....give, give, give. Aren't they magnanimous and wonderful????
That gift convinces and grooms the community to place them on a pedestal and to set them above all accusations of wrong doing. After all, look at all they give. It also helps assuage their conscience and allows them to set up this twisted rationale for their sick behavior. I have no doubt that some even play games with their own minds...striking bargains as to who they choose to truly help and who they allow themselves to destroy for their own pleasure. I think this is the reason that we find so many instances where a pedophile can be seen completely differently by different children they've worked with. They typically choose very carefully.
Entitlement is a dangerous thing, indeed.
That gift convinces and grooms the community to place them on a pedestal and to set them above all accusations of wrong doing. After all, look at all they give. It also helps assuage their conscience and allows them to set up this twisted rationale for their sick behavior. I have no doubt that some even play games with their own minds...striking bargains as to who they choose to truly help and who they allow themselves to destroy for their own pleasure. I think this is the reason that we find so many instances where a pedophile can be seen completely differently by different children they've worked with. They typically choose very carefully.
Entitlement is a dangerous thing, indeed.
Believe: From my understanding, Ayres didn't practice any kind of therapy on the boys he didn't molest. Remember "Joel" his patient at Judge Baker in Boston from 1962? Joel told the Boston Globe that either Ayres was asking him graphic questions about b*** j*** or he was asleep in his chair. Ayres never asked Joel about his family, friends, girlfriends, school, feelings. It was all weird sexual stuff that was over the top.
That crackpot Dr. J's Housecalls blog is defending Levine and attacking the victims for staying anonymous. She refuses to look at the evidence; misstates facts and at the end of her blog quotes from a friend who insinuates that if the allegations from victims are false, and that it's just a witch-hunt, then it's murder.
Johnson turned off the comments for that post, though she keeps comments open for other posts. Shame on her. She's been on this blog before and was attacking people for defending Levine's vicitms.
http://drjshousecalls.blogspot.com/2011/02/dr-melvin-levine-back-in-news.html
Johnson turned off the comments for that post, though she keeps comments open for other posts. Shame on her. She's been on this blog before and was attacking people for defending Levine's vicitms.
http://drjshousecalls.blogspot.com/2011/02/dr-melvin-levine-back-in-news.html
Reading that woman's blog makes my head hurt.
Why does Levine's family cite his desire to have as many animals as he can in his obit? Even beore mentioning that h e ha a a wife?
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/o...rvice_for_dr_melvin_levine_set_for_wednesday/
Why does Levine's family cite his desire to have as many animals as he can in his obit? Even beore mentioning that h e ha a a wife?
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/o...rvice_for_dr_melvin_levine_set_for_wednesday/
I didn't realize that the victims in North Carolina were also represented by a lawyer there. This story says that a dozen victims went to the North Carolina Board about Levine, which resulted in him being forced to surrender his license.
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7971387
"For many of those people, he may have also helped them," attorney Elizabeth Kuniholm said. "But, what he did to them has left them with a lifetime - in some cases -devastation and that is the reality."
Kuniholm represents about a dozen of Levine's former patients in North Carolina. Three years ago, they took their claims the state medical board, forcing Levine to give up his medical license.
Unlike Levine's former patients in Massachusetts, they cannot sue his estate in the wake of his death.
"In NC, the statute of limitations is very different than it is in Massachusetts," Kuniholm said. "It is not as forgiving as it is in MA in situations like this where someone may have suffered abuse and molestation as a child."
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7971387
"For many of those people, he may have also helped them," attorney Elizabeth Kuniholm said. "But, what he did to them has left them with a lifetime - in some cases -devastation and that is the reality."
Kuniholm represents about a dozen of Levine's former patients in North Carolina. Three years ago, they took their claims the state medical board, forcing Levine to give up his medical license.
Unlike Levine's former patients in Massachusetts, they cannot sue his estate in the wake of his death.
"In NC, the statute of limitations is very different than it is in Massachusetts," Kuniholm said. "It is not as forgiving as it is in MA in situations like this where someone may have suffered abuse and molestation as a child."
Some of Levine's victims and people who knew Levine's victims posted on this blog:
http://goodmenproject.com/good-feed...ntly-commits-suicide-over-pedophilia-charges/
Here's a post:
Levine Insider says:
February 21, 2011 at 4:15 pm
A very dear friend’s son was abused by Dr. Levine as a little child. We knew about this creep and his proclivity for little boys for almost 10 years.
http://goodmenproject.com/good-feed...ntly-commits-suicide-over-pedophilia-charges/
Here's a post:
Levine Insider says:
February 21, 2011 at 4:15 pm
A very dear friend’s son was abused by Dr. Levine as a little child. We knew about this creep and his proclivity for little boys for almost 10 years.
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