NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, missing from her home 11/10/09 #1

[panthera]

perhaps there is a shred of truth that mom says she put her on the couch at 0530. Perhaps, tho, she wasn't alive when she did it.

sorry to be disgusting like that....

Also, I agree that this mhp would most likely be connected to the sewer system and the "sewage" problem in the home is due to those living there... mister nursebeeme worked as a maintenance dude in college at the apartments we lived in and you would not believe the things that college coeds would flush down the toilet!!! He once pulled a shampoo bottle out of one..

If the toilet was backed up/overflowed that could also lend to the terminology sewage...

I've thought of that too ~ the small bit of truth among the lies. Also, maybe the reason they remember the "pink underwear" was because it had just been put on her, but then where is the pair she would've soiled had this been an accident? or did somebody stuff them down the toilet and this hasn't been an ongoing problem after all? :waitasec: MOO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I'd love to know what the neighbor meant by "somebody was beating"
Did she mean, like somebody was pounding on something like the sound of hitting on the wall, hammering a nail...
Or, did she mean somebody was getting beaten.
I'd love to have some clarification on that statement. The difference in those 2 things is huge and would make a big difference in finding out what happened. IMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Can anybody tell me what the local new source is?
A certain website I can keep cheking?
TIA

 

[nursebeeme]

kim,
www.wral.com

 

[panthera]

I'd love to know what the neighbor meant by "somebody was beating"
Did she mean, like somebody was pounding on something like the sound of hitting on the wall, hammering a nail...
Or, did she mean somebody was getting beaten.
I'd love to have some clarification on that statement. The difference in those 2 things is huge and would make a big difference in finding out what happened. IMO

I think maybe she meant "somebody was beaten" instead of the "ing" suffix. If that did occur, I'm wondering if there's any forensic evidence inside the house, like blood? MOO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

All I can say is if I woke up and thought I heard somebody being beaten, I would darn sure find out what was going on.
Now, If I woke up and heard somebody beating on something, then I might get annoyed but try to go back to sleep.
YKWIM????

 

[not_my_kids]

(bolding mine)

That's why I was wondering when the last time somebody outside the family saw her. I'm more inclined to think though that it was a violent act that night and hence the cover up. MOO

Would she have been in school? I don't know when they have to start in NC. If she was supposed to be and wasn't, why wasn't CPS sent out? (Never mind, rhetorical question.)
Normally, there would be people popping up and saying "Last time I saw her..." None of that this time.

 

[kellync]

The mother (or other family) not going on television to beg for the babys safe return speaks volumes to me.

 

[not_my_kids]

Can we trace the original printer of the beating/beaten statement? I could email and ask if their quote got cut off. Might clarify some things.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I see it on the article on WRAL.com. Reporter was Dan Bowens. Looks like you can click his name. Maybe an email link there.

 

[not_my_kids]

E-mail going out.

Let you know if I get an answer.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Actually, when you click on his name, it gives you a bio on him and also has a link to contact him on the web.

 

[panthera]

The mother (or other family) not going on television to beg for the babys safe return speaks volumes to me.

As well as the mother being questioned by LE for two days, the scant information coming out except from what the neighbor found in her trash, and the whole scenario in general now that we know there were video cameras. :furious: MOO

 

[trigger]

On HLN they said that they are looking at surveillance cameras. I think they said there was one camera that they are looking at, thats right in front of her home. They only said that they did see people coming out after the 911 call, looks like they were looking for the child around the home.

 

[mycroft]

I agree that the "beating" statement makes no sense. I took it to mean somebody beating on an object.

My initial reaction when I heard about the state of the blanket was that she had soiled herself while being beaten.

Another, perhaps less likely possibility occurs to me now: What if the family did not have a working toilet and had been going outside. You might resort to that if sewage was leaking into your house. Did the girl need to go and went out on the back porch while wrapped in her blanket against the cold? If it was dark she might have been scared and did not want to go far, hence the porch. Perhaps she soiled her blanket in the process as well as the porch, and was beaten when it was discovered that she had ruined her blanket. Maybe what the neighbor heard was someone beating her and telling her to clean it up. (Although that doesn't match the neighbor's phrasing.)

I can also see a scenario where she causes the toilet to overflow and is beaten for that, as has already been mentioned, and someone in the home cleans it up with her blanket as a punishment.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Article on this link
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7109962

says LE took the childs mother, her boyfriend and her sister in for questioning.

 

[not_my_kids]

Email sent (after I finally found the link to his email). I'll let you know if I get an answer.

 

[panthera]

On HLN they said that they are looking at surveillance cameras. I think they said there was one camera that they are looking at, thats right in front of her home. They only said that they did see people coming out after the 911 call, looks like they were looking for the child around the home.

I missed the exact time that people were seen outside the house and thought it was after they discovered her missing. So they don't go outside until after calling 911? Wouldn't you normally look outside first just in case she'd wandered out? And another thing we haven't heard is whether the door was locked, unlocked, found open or whatnot. I'd really like to know what they told LE. MOO

 

[NewMommy09]

Gotta go. Finally off work. But real quick, just had to say this....
If what the neighbor heard was the child being beaten, IMO, she was already dead or unconscious. I can't imagine a child being beaten and not screaming, crying out, begging, or at the very least, moaning. The neighbor seems close enough to have heard those things if she heard a beating. IMO.

 

[trigger]

I missed the exact time that people were seen outside the house and thought it was after they discovered her missing. So they don't go outside until after calling 911? Wouldn't you normally look outside first just in case she'd wandered out? And another thing we haven't heard is whether the door was locked, unlocked, found open or whatnot. I'd really like to know what they told LE. MOO

So many questions I know. I taped the show. Let me go back and listen. Also the full interview on hln with the reporter Michelle Sigona who interviewe that Lady Barbara who is the manager there. Am I allowed to post HLN's reporters interview?