NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, missing from her home 11/10/09 #4

[BeanE]

Jesus God we need a mod in here

 

[panthera]

What the hell is that?

Hopefully it will be gone soon.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I'm gonna take a stab at being an educated person.

1 - Coe says Mom had nothing to do with the kidnapping.

2 - Coe said there was some negligence on Mom's part.

3 - Coe said in the whole time he was there (3 weeks Shaniya was there) that Shaniya was *never* sleeping on the couch. Something happened - something big and unusual - that Mom put her on the couch that morning.

4 - The neighbor said Coe was walking around and seemed angry.

5 - Coe is saying figure it out. He's saying we *can* figure it out. He just doesn't want to say. It's nasty.

So what scenario fits all these factors?

My guess:

Mom's negligence was not watching Shaniya closely enough with McNeil. In the middle of the night, Mom caught McNeil molesting Shaniya. She put Shaniya on the couch. A fight ensued. McNeil took Shaniya.

Fits all factors.

My guess/MOO.

Much of this fits, sadly, but some things don't. For instance, McNeill is aunt's EX bf thus presumably not still going to see BDavis and afaik we've been given no indication he was there that night eihter, is this right?
arrot:

 

[mysticrose]

ok that what his lawyer said.....LE didn't say that.

if that true where did he see Shaniya...who is he connect to in the park:banghead:

Coe did not mention anything about McNeil...I guessing that the reporter didn't ask if he knew McNeil??

We might hear more from Coe....pretty sure a network wants his story.
I bet his phone is ringing off the hook.

I believe Coe and the seven year old boy both told LE that McNeill is the Aunt's Ex Boyfriend...so if his attorney said that he is fibbing or more then likley does not have the right story...jmo

 

[trigger]

Yes it doesn't say when Davenport figured out that Shaniya (her mother, et al) was staying there. But evidently it must have been recently, w/in last 3 weeks.

arrot:

Yes it was went she was reported missing. She was surprised to find out that they were all living there.

 

[trigger]

McNeil's girlfriend's name is April Autry

Yes thats his current gf.

 

[mycroft]

Not according to his lawyer.

Where did you find this information? Do you have a link? I watched his court appearance and nothing substantive came up in the portion that I saw. When did the lawyer make this statement?

 

[panthera]

Coe is saying the couch story is bs and that mom gave the baby away. Btw, I'm not too happy with dad right now. The entire story of him wanting baby mama to be a mama is bs. More like he wanted a break or stepmom or stepmom did. He's crying now? He should be. There is now way he could have seen moms situation and not seen train wreck!

I agree. I just wonder if he did check out where mom was living, if it wasn't this mobile home. Maybe she gave him some other address and pretended she lived there. I'm just trying to believe he didn't knowingly send Shaniya off to this dump. MOO

 

[Blue Ridge]

My guess:

Mom's negligence was not watching Shaniya closely enough with McNeil. In the middle of the night, Mom caught McNeil molesting Shaniya. She put Shaniya on the couch. A fight ensued. McNeil took Shaniya.

Fits all factors.

My guess/MOO.

But if that were true, would she put Shaniya out on the couch by herself? If anything, you'd think had she caught someone in the house molesting her child (and she felt too threatened by him to call police or whatever the majority of us would do) she would at least take the child into her own bed to comfort her and protect her? And what would MAM have been doing there anyway...he was the sister's EX, not current, boyfriend....?

This is the most confusing case ever :-(

 

[mycroft]

Not according to his lawyer.

Where did you find this information? Do you have a link? I watched his court appearance and nothing substantive came up in the portion that I saw. When did the lawyer make this statement? Did he say this to the press or to a judge?

 

[mayelf]

here is a beginners map of the key areas...

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?sour...5.225429,-78.931274&spn=1.581728,2.449951&z=9

Here is the gf tidbit link http://www.fayobserver.com/Articles/2009/11/13/951920

 

[not_my_kids]

Okay, most everything else I can square away in my mind somewhere. The one thing that doesn't fit is McNeill himself.
He waved his right to a public defender, didn't he? That was a privately retained lawyer he had today? I think it was. From who? Did he pay for that lawyer, and if he didn't, who did? And if he did, where did he get his money from? Drugs are a possibility, but if he has that much cash sacked away from his deals, what is he doing with someone like Shaniya's aunt, who is a lower end dealer, if she deals at all. He's a higher (couple levels higher) class than them, if he has that much extra cash. He would be hanging around and dating under his class (there's a class system, this was my world for many years.) With that much money, McNeill would have to be at least a lieutenant, and the kind of living arrangements and lower end convictions from the rest of the people at the trailer indicate street dealer, maybe a small step above. That's an issue.

If he didn't pay, who's the one with the deep pockets. Follow the money.

 

[mysticrose]

Can I ask barry9120 , is that you posting that disgusting picture or has Satan taken over your computer ???!!!!

 

[BeanE]

Much of this fits, sadly, but some things don't. For instance, McNeill is aunt's EX bf thus presumably not still going to see BDavis and afaik we've been given no indication he was there that night eihter, is this right?
arrot:

Ah okay. I thought it had been stated that he was there.

In that case, he *could* have been visiting if they remained 'friends'.

Darnit. And it all fit so well... Oh well... I think I'm too tired for any more theories tonight. Maybe after my first cup of coffee in the morning.

I wonder if it could be that the aunt molested Shaniya? Sorry I am thinking so much of molestation, but I'm keying on what Coe is telling us we can figure out but he doesn't want to say.

 

[mayelf]

Okay more questions just popped in my head :

Why did he check in a hotel so close to her home?

Why did he check into a hotel in the morning? when did he check out?

Why did he turn himself in when his family mentioned he was on T.V.?

 

[Money Girl]

Where did you find this information? Do you have a link? I watched his court appearance and nothing substantive came up in the portion that I saw. When did the lawyer make this statement?

Current Fayetteville Observer story. It is posted a couple of pages ago inthis thread.

 

[elepher50]

"I've been asked that by 13 detectives and everybody, I don't know and I tell you like I told the detectives, I don't think the mother had anything to do with it," he said. "Do I feel there might have been some negligence somewhere, yes I do."

Coe says Antionette Davis, the child's mother, was his girlfriend and he says he wasn't at the mobile home when the child disappeared.

"Every day I was there the little girl was never in the living room," Coe said. "Every night when I slept there the little girl was never in the living room, so all I can say is educated people figure it out."

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?se...cal&id=7116354

Can't stand the thought that we are not as educated as Coe. So reading between the lines here is the best I can put forth:

1. Somebody put Shaniya on the couch in the livingroom and it wasn't mom.
2. McNeill was in the MH to have taken Shaniya.
3. Mom wasn't home all night and she is lying her off.
4. Negligence is squarely on the person who is the ex of McNeill
5. Coe was not in the MH that night

It is my best guess that there was more than one custody battle going on in that MH. Bet that baby in the still frame of the video is McNeill's from a union with the ex girlfriend/aunt who was living in the MH. McNeill may have went to the MH to take the baby and got in one helluva fight with the ex and simply took Shaniya as a revenge.

Will probably hate myself that Coe is smarter once all the information and connections finally come out.

The mother and the aunt had best come real clean real soon with all the information before it is too late for Shaniya - if it isn't too late already.

Shaniya is the innocent in all of this and what a motley dammed crew for any child to be living with. This case must be one of LE's worst nightmares... I do not envy them their job of getting to the bottom of this.

Shaniya you deserve better - shame on all the adult wannabe's in this fiasco - shame on you. Damm it triple shame .... shame.. shame..shame!!!!!!!!!

 

[trigger]

I think this MH Manager is also the one who said she saw Coe drive off with the girl when Coe was no where around.
Bet she gets sued.

No it was not the manager who saw her in the car.

 

[lonetraveler]

It doesn't sound like she was there at all. Didn't the landlady say she didn't know the girl? Or am I getting that wrong? The dogs didn't pick up her scent outside which is really strange. I don't know. This whole case is weird and making my head hurt.

I'm a bit confused over that too. I read that one probable reason that the scent dogs didn't pick her scent up at the mh could be because she was being carried. I have read that scent dogs can actually pick up a person's scent if they are put into a vehicle and driven away, hummmmmmmm. Well, we know that she was definitely carried into the hotel. To be sure, LE knows which room she was carried to? I hope.

 

[Money Girl]

Did they release what hotel it is or the address for it?

Comfort Inn and Suites