Found Deceased NC - Stephanie Mayorga, 27, & Paige Escalera, 25, Wilmington, 15 Apr 2020

[Backstroke10]

They should have more thoroughly investigated an accident report period. From the photos posted earlier I think it would have been pretty apparent in the light of day that something had happened there. I can't believe the officers that investigated that night didn't even take a second look the next day - or the next twenty days.

Your absolutely right! I totally agree.

 

[Rocky1]

Regarding the whole car computer thing, I don’t think it’s all that need of a technology.
Mechanics can plug into a cars computer and diagnose issues.
I have that thing with my insurance that I plug into my computer and it tracks all my hard breaking events, times of day I drive, speeds, etc.

JME

The ECU(S) your mechanic (unless it's a dealership) or the insurance company is plugging into, although may be tying a few ECU's together, is separate from an Event Data Recorder. That ECU is part of the ACM (Airbag Control Module) and only starts recording after excessive speeds or after airbag deployment.
Retrieval of event data requires special tools. It's much more detailed than the ECM(S) a mechanic would download data from. It records things like vehicle angle at the time of a crash, and time relation between air bag deployment and seat belt retraction deployment etc.

The fight to retrieve that data is not only in relation to privacy laws, it's a fight between the auto manufactures and the NHTSA. Manufacturers do not like releasing information as to how their vehicles perform .

 

[Gardenista]

They should have more thoroughly investigated an accident report period. From the photos posted earlier I think it would have been pretty apparent in the light of day that something had happened there. I can't believe the officers that investigated that night didn't even take a second look the next day - or the next twenty days.

Are there photos from before the car was pulled out by the tow truck?

 

[evilwise]

Are there photos from before the car was pulled out by the tow truck?

No, but the tow trucks pulled it out the shorter way, from the side.

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You can still see the path where trees were broken behind the position of the car as it went in even after three weeks of spring growth

Yeah, it might have required patrolmen to get out of their cars and walk around a little bit to see it but it still astounds me that it wasn't investigated. I haven't listened to the truck driver's 911 call but it seems like it described a serious accident. I suppose it's possible that the 911 operators failed to communicate this to the investigating officers but there's still some kind of investigative breakdown when people going missing in the exact area a major car accident is reported goes unconnected. That seems like it should be among the first possibilities to eliminate.

 

[kshultz06082]

BBM I agree. They didn’t know because they didn’t investigate the accident. The 911 caller identified the color of the car. They should have cross checked that with the missing women’s car. Let’s say it was a husband/wife or parent/child that disappeared after leaving in their car. I think they would have paid more attention to the car and therefore put two and two together. MOO

They weren't even reported missing until 3 days after the accident happened, therefore there was no 2 + 2 to put together at that time.

 

[Lusitana]

They weren't even reported missing until 3 days after the accident happened, therefore there was no 2 + 2 to put together at that time.

Yes, this case suffered a few setbacks that delayed them being found. They weren't reported missing right away and then, they weren't found on that quick search the night they crashed. Man, sometimes bad stuff just keeps happening and happening.

 

[MimosaMornings]

When did the “stay at home” go into effect in NC? A friend in Durham told me that the response time was a lot slower during April due to reduced staff (daycare/schools closed, out sick, etc) JMO

 

[cujenn81]

When did the “stay at home” go into effect in NC? A friend in Durham told me that the response time was a lot slower during April due to reduced staff (daycare/schools closed, out sick, etc) JMO

It looks like March 30th.
NCDHHS: Governor Cooper Announces Statewide Stay at Home Order Until April 29.

 

[borndem]

If they hit a wall at high speed there would have been car parts lying about, evidently missed by first responders in their search after the "rear view" report. Something a bit off about this.

bbm
I've heard the "hit a wall" phrase a couple of times, but try as I might with google maps -- several times -- I cannot find a wall anywhere. It does sound a bit off.

Am I looking in the wrong area for the accident scene? Has anyone seen an actual wall where this accident happened, or is the word "wall" used loosely and there really isn't a true brick, concrete, wood, etc., wall at all?
Anyone? Thanks in advance.

 

[cujenn81]

bbm
I've heard the "hit a wall" phrase a couple of times, but try as I might with google maps -- several times -- I cannot fine a wall anywhere. It does sound a bit off.

Am I looking in the wrong area for the accident scene? Has anyone seen an actual wall where this accident happened, or is the word "wall" used loosely and there really isn't a true brick, concrete, wood, etc., wall at all?
Anyone? Thanks in advance.

I believe that was just the wording used by the man who reported the accident to 9-1-1.

“Listen this is like, really serious,” the 911 caller said. “The car didn’t stop at the stop sign and keeps driving so fast...I was seeing with my back mirror - the car smashed the wall there."

911 call: ‘...the car like disappeared inside the tree’

 

[borndem]

Welcome to Websleuths,
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[borndem]

I believe that was just the wording used by the man who reported the accident to 9-1-1.

“Listen this is like, really serious,” the 911 caller said. “The car didn’t stop at the stop sign and keeps driving so fast...I was seeing with my back mirror - the car smashed the wall there."

911 call: ‘...the car like disappeared inside the tree’

Thanks -- I guess I'm not a total moron!

That's kind of what I thought, or that it was the curb which acted as a wall -- and I think a curb could "launch" a car if the speed was pretty high.

 

[sloothseeker]

answers a lot of my questions - WPD confirms bodies in vehicle were those of missing Wilmington women

 

[sloothseeker]

Who was driving, speed, drinking, time, everything but why! WPD confirms bodies in vehicle were those of missing Wilmington women

 

[Lusitana]

I just can't understand why two people who had DUI charges, had several empty beer bottles in the car. That, added to the many videos of them driving while drinking alcohol, bothers me so much. They could've really hurt or kill someone else. I hate to say this, but this outcome was bound to happen. It's a shame that two young people had to lose their lives in such a stupid way.
Why were they driving so fast? They had to know that if they were pulled over they would be in big trouble, with all of those bottles in the car and the previous DUI charges... so weird.

 

[sloothseeker]

more of same just a few more details Police: Speed, alcohol led to fatal crash involving missing women - WWAY TV

 

[carbuff]

So it sounds like everybody did everything that could have been done.

 

[Lusitana]

So it sounds like everybody did everything that could have been done.

That's what I think too.

 

[Teeena]

I just can't understand why two people who had DUI charges, had several empty beer bottles in the car. That, added to the many videos of them driving while drinking alcohol, bothers me so much. They could've really hurt or kill someone else. I hate to say this, but this outcome was bound to happen. It's a shame that two young people had to lose their lives in such a stupid way.
Why were they driving so fast? They had to know that if they were pulled over they would be in big trouble, with all of those bottles in the car and the previous DUI charges... so weird.

"added to the many videos of them driving while drinking alcohol"

Where do you find these? sorry if I missed it

 

[Nancy19XX]

"added to the many videos of them driving while drinking alcohol"

Where do you find these? sorry if I missed it

On their Instagram account. It was linked earlier, I don't have it off hand.