NC - Two Duke Lacrosse Players Indicted

[BillyGoatGruff]

I heard on Oprah that a lot of AA men are also "bisexual." So, couldn't a fear of contracting something like AIDS also play into this resistance?

AIDS is extremely prevalent in the hetero AA community due largely to a cultural resistance to condoms, IV drug abuse, and the belief that only gays get AIDS.

 

[Wudge]

Dad: Broomstick used on dancer

Object cited in TV talk apparently not a focus of past police searches

DURHAM - The father of the accuser in the rape case involving Duke University lacrosse players said his daughter was raped with a broomstick during a party last month, and that explains defense lawyers' claims that no DNA from players was found on her.

The woman's father, appearing on MSNBC's "Rita Cosby Live & Direct" Tuesday night, said his daughter told him that when three team members raped and sodomized her, they also used a broom.

The father said he learned about the broom from others, "and then she told me afterwards because she didn't want me to know that part," he said. (More at link)

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/14438495.htm

Aha, now I understand, LE sent the swabs into a lab to test for a broomstick, which, allegedly, was used by three men. But having found no evidence of a broomstick in the initial lab work-up, LE decided to retest for broomstick trace evidence.

Listen closely and you will hear my case summary: GIVE ME A BREAK.

 

[Summerskye1]

I heard on Oprah that a lot of AA men are also "bisexual." So, couldn't a fear of contracting something like AIDS also play into this resistance?

Please don't take offense, but I'd be quite surprised if AA men were any more or less likely than white men or other men to be bisexual. I think Oprah's show had more to do with bisexual or gay AA men staying "closeted" and getting married or dating women for cultural reasons (such as less acceptace of homosexuality in males in the AA community, perhaps) while sleeping with men "on the down low," thus putting their female partners at risk.

 

[nanandjim]

Please don't take offense, but I'd be quite surprised if AA men were any more or less likely than white men or other men to be bisexual. I think Oprah's show had more to do with bisexual or gay AA men staying "closeted" and getting married or dating women for cultural reasons (such as less acceptace of homosexuality in males in the AA community, perhaps) while sleeping with men "on the down low," thus putting their female partners at risk.

Yes, that's the show. Oprah was saying that it is more taboo in the AA community. My thinking is that, since the AA guys hide it and are resistant to wearing condoms, they may be more fearful of contracting an unknown disease.

 

[jannuncutt]

Yes, that's the show. Oprah was saying that it is more taboo in the AA community. My thinking is that, since the AA guys hide it and are resistant to wearing condoms, they may be more fearful of contracting an unknown disease.

For crying out loud! A whole lot of white guys hide it too. If he won't wear a condom - don't do it - no matter what race he happens to be!

 

[Masterj]

For crying out loud! A whole lot of white guys hide it too. If he won't wear a condom - don't do it - no matter what race he happens to be!

:clap:

 

[Sherlockmom]

Well it looks like this isn't the first time she has made these types of claims.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/27/D8H8L3M81.html

My opinion is that we have a girl with a bit of mental instability. Mix that in with a bit of drug/alcohol use and low morals and we have a recipe for disaster.

My guess as to what happened was that she appeared too drunk to perform her paid for duties, ended up kicked out of the house with less than her expected fee. Either out of fear of being beaten by her pimp or at the least fired by her employer she makes up the rape story to cover for the fact that she came back with less money than expected. Either that or she screamed rape out of revenge.

The "injuries" she sustained were most likely either from a beating she took or rough sex from one of her clients. She may or may not have been doing a bit more than just stripping.

I wonder if Jesse Jackson will pay for the boy's college tuition too. After all, their lives have been ruined. As far as I'm concerned, if her accusations turn out to be false, she should be charged with a hate crime.

I was skeptical of these charges from the beginning when I heard about the 911 call. No one calls 911 to whine about being called racial slurs. It made no sense and sounded like a set up to me.

Sherlockmom

 

[mic730]

I just read the article. Accusations before againist 3 men.
WOW - that's a bombshell.

 

[Wudge]

New reporting has the alleged rape victim previously reporting that around ten years ago, she was allegedly raped by another trio of men.

My previous case summary of "gimme a break" is now "let's all get a grip". This has become a farce.

 

[mister happy]

I just read the article. Accusations before againist 3 men.
WOW - that's a bombshell.

Wow is right. Wonder if there was a broom involved too.

 

[nanandjim]

New reporting has the alleged rape victim previously reporting that around ten years ago, she was allegedly raped by another trio of men...

Hmmm...:waitasec:

 

[mic730]

Wow is right. Wonder if there was a broom involved too.

That's a thought! :waitasec:

Does this mean game over for the prosecutor? I have heard over and over from the talking heads that if she made past accusations that would come into a trial. Sure would like to know the details of that report.
Maybe that prosecutor got his info before making a decision to take it to a grand jury.

 

[mister happy]

That's a thought! :waitasec:

Does this mean game over for the prosecutor? I have heard over and over from the talking heads that if she made past accusations that would come into a trial. Sure would like to know the details of that report.
Maybe that prosecutor got his info before making a decision to take it to a grand jury.

Really? I thought stuff like that couldn't be presented at trial. Anyway, I wonder why she waited all those years to report the rape.

 

[mic730]

Really? I thought stuff like that couldn't be presented at trial. Anyway, I wonder why she waited all those years to report the rape.

I think the rape shield protect accusers from their past sexual history coming into court but not past accusations of rape an accuser has made.

 

[mister happy]

I think the rape shield protect accusers from their past sexual history coming into court but not past accusations of rape an accuser has made.

Well, this would certainly influence a jury. I think the DA's case is burnt toast.

 

[mic730]

Well, this would certainly influence a jury. I think the DA's case is burnt toast.

I agree - case is burnt toast. Good analogy!
I could be wrong about that but I remember hearing it over and over again that past accusations and her criminal record could be used in court. Of course at that time past accusations were just speculative.

 

[mister happy]

Yeah, I thought I smelled something burning when the DNA tests came back "inconclusive"... after the DA said the tests would nail the perps.

Oh well, I talked myself into a dark toasted BLT sandwich. Talk later.

 

[tezi]

I think the DA needs to really consider all of the consequences that he could face if he continue to push forward with this case. Nothing seems to be adding up with the accuser's story. Personally, I don't think she was raped. Now with the news that she has accused three other men of raping her, well, something is rotten in Denmark. JMO If it turns out that she wasn't raped, I hope that she gets charges filed against her, because she has ruined the reputations of the people she has accused. And if she wasn't raped, women who are raped will not want to come forward because of all the bad press that this case has caused.

And what the heck is up with the stripper that was with her thinking she should make some money off of this? I couldn't believe that when I heard it. I also thought something wasn't right with her story either. First, she said her companion wasn't sexually assaulted, then she changed her story. I really liked the part about it being her "impression" that something happened. Impressions do not equal facts, plain and simple. She just acts like someone out to make a quick buck.

Something is really wrong with this case, I even agree with Wudge! LOL

 

[Beyond Belief]

DURHAM, N.C. — The woman who says she was raped by three members of Duke's lacrosse team also told police 10 years ago she was raped by three men, filing a 1996 complaint claiming she had been assaulted three years earlier when she was 14.
Authorities in nearby Creedmoor said Thursday that none of the men named in the decade-old report was ever charged but they didn't have details why.

A phone number for the accuser has been disconnected and her family declined to comment to The Associated Press. But relatives told Essence magazine in an online story this week that the woman declined to pursue the case out of fear for her safety.

The existence of the report surprised defense attorneys, one of whom has sought information about the accuser's past for use in attacking her credibility.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,193495,00.html

 

[partyuv5]

I saw the victim's father on NG a while back but he wouldn't show his face, now I know why.