NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct 2010 - #1

[kcsmom76]

Respectfully snipped from darlin gals post. "Bakers when they lived in nearby Sawmills," OMG that is where I live. I had no idea they lived here. We are a VERY small town located in Granite Falls, since Sawmills has no post office, but it's own town hall and Mayor. WOW this is way to close to home. I wonder also if she went to my daughter's school, Sawmills Elementary?? I know I read she was homeschooled.

 

[mysticrose]

Oriah I see you are here... With the dogs not picking up anything what does that say to you ?

I think she was moved to a vehicle and transported out of the area, perhaps wrapped in something..........

Bumping for Oriah....

 

[ella971]

Father said he saw her Thursday night. Let me get link.

In an emotional interview, Baker described when he last saw Zahra Thursday evening and said she was in bed when he got home from work on Friday.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/25354656/detail.html


I said "night", it should have been "evening".

Okay.Good.Thursday night he saw her in bed. I wonder what time that was?

 

[shefner]

Hudson is also on the other side of me. I am looking all over and checking everything i can to get more updates.

Are you in Granite Falls? Hubby worked there before moving here.....know the area well.

 

[kcsmom76]

Moving around does not surprise me. It would be interesting to know if the places they moved got continually less expensive? They may have had to keep downsizing due to the cost of Zahra's treatments. We moved several times from 2003-2006. Cheaper apartment, better job, closer to the doctors to use less gas...If we didn't we had to choose between life sustaining medication or having heat in the middle of winter.

Hickory is alot more expensive than Sawmills and Caldwell County. Hickory is located in Catawba County and has lots more "amenities" than Caldwell County. Would not have been cheaper for them to move there.

 

[Oriah]

Yes we are in a drought. It has been abnormally dry this year and in years past.

Unless you're over here, in which case it just rained like crazy for about a week. But yes, it has been dry.

 

[kcsmom76]

Are you in Granite Falls? Hubby worked there before moving here.....know the area well.

Yes, we have the address of Granite Falls, but live in Sawmills. Sawmills doesn't have a post office, but we do have a Mayor.

 

[kcsmom76]

Unless you're over here, in which case it just rained like crazy for about a week. But yes, it has been dry.

Where is over here?
We did have some rain a few weeks ago but we are STILL in a drought.

 

[tehcloser]

Okay.Good.Thursday night he saw her in bed. I wonder what time that was?

I'm guessing he must work an evening shift, so I'm thinking she disappeared Friday between the hours of 7 - 11....give or take. And then the fire and all was a smokescreen maybe so she could say she found her missing then....but she chickened out and did it later?

 

[Shutterfly]

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/25354656/detail.html

"was"......past tense...WTF?

*snipped*
Channel 9 spoke with Kayla Rotenbery, who is a friend of the family. “She was a great young girl. She was the best young girl you could ask for. She had perfect manners,” Rotenbery said.

:waitasec:

 

[watcher9]

fwiw, it has been abnormally dry in the area:

http://www.ncdrought.org/

catawba county is one of 12 NC counties currently under a moderate drought alert

Then it could just be a tossed cigarette fire.
At what time did the dad happen to find it?
Who called the FD?

 

[PoppyH]

Wonder what day trash day is there, here in Charlotte at my house is Thursday

 

[shefner]

Yes, we have the address of Granite Falls, but live in Sawmills. Sawmills doesn't have a post office, but we do have a Mayor.

OK....we lived in Caldwell County but had a Hickory address. We lived near the Lake. At first I wondered about this family's access to that body of water....could Zahra be in the water?

Praying for this sweet child....

 

[nursebeeme]

I am continually amazed that I am still amazed at how different my perspective is from 98% of the world. :waitasec:

I know it is hard for some people to believe...but not all kids like to play outside. My children do, but are only outside the hours my neighbors work and never unattended. I wouldn't be surprised if they have never seen them outside.

Moving around does not surprise me. It would be interesting to know if the places they moved got continually less expensive? They may have had to keep downsizing due to the cost of Zahra's treatments. We moved several times from 2003-2006. Cheaper apartment, better job, closer to the doctors to use less gas...If we didn't we had to choose between life sustaining medication or having heat in the middle of winter.

Home schooling doesn't surprise me. The hearing loss may have factored into that. When you add all the school that would have been missed for 2 different cancer battles... If she also got sick easily and would again keep missing a lot of school...

Not all cancer survivors have the horrible, lingering fatigue... but alot of them do. She did have other lasting effects from treatment, hearing loss...so that makes it more likely she would also have lasting fatigue or other effects.

My best friend's son who beat Hodgkins sleeps 15 hours a day. They cut him to half days at school so he takes a 3 hour nap and is awake for dinner. If she did have lingering fatigue her sleeping until 2pm would not be odd to me. (I don't believe that story, but it isn't because I don't think she would sleep that long.)

I really don't like the step mother's mug shot expression. I agree, I am going to wonder about drugs for now. It would make it easier to understand her hurting this little girl who fought so hard to stay alive.

I don't think Dad was involved.

Unfortunately I think this is going to be a horribly tragic situation, right up there with Ethan Stacy and Shaniya Davis...because of what this child has successfully battled, the people who failed her and how preventable this is going to turn out to be.

we don't know how old she was when the bone cancer was diagnosed and treated thusly we don't know if she ever missed school.

She got the hearing aids this past may and she had previously been attending school, per LE, in Caldwell county. She would have had the hearing issues (high freq hearing loss) during school so the hearing aids would only make this better... so why pull her out to homeschool now that she is able to hear?

a little OT but I am a hodgkin's lymphoma survivor (early childhood) and I do not sleep that much.. or sleep more than your average middle aged woman fwiw

all moo

 

[kcsmom76]

I'm wondering the same ella.....maye Zahra was gone much longer than the 2:30pm time missing. If that were the case, no telling how far away this poor child could be. I'm also starting to wonder if someone else is involved. If there's no evidence to suggest that Zahra left the home via the Suburban or the Toyota, then she certainly left somehow. If someone who doesn't live at the Baker home were involved, such as a friend of the Baker's, perhaps she could've been whisked away into someone else's vehicle?

What I read yesterday is that she was last seen in her bed at 2am. They didn't report her missing until 2pm. http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2010/oct/10/7/amber-alert-missing-hickory-girl-ar-447658/

 

[shefner]

Then it could just be a tossed cigarette fire.
At what time did the dad happen to find it?
Who called the FD?

The brush fire was in the backyard and was discovered at about 5 am...wish I could recall the link. I know it was mentioned on the newscast that was linked earlier.

 

[tehcloser]

The brush fire was in the backyard and was discovered at about 5 am...wish I could recall the link. I know it was mentioned on the newscast that was linked earlier.

The girl's stepmother told her husband she last saw Zahra sleeping in her bed around 2:30 a.m. Saturday, about 2 1/2 hours before the fire was reported. Adam Baker said he was panicked after the fire, but didn't check on his daughter.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...LWNY3lLWF2wqDQ34pAEwD9IPK8V80?docId=D9IPK8V80

 

[kcsmom76]

OK....we lived in Caldwell County but had a Hickory address. We lived near the Lake. At first I wondered about this family's access to that body of water....could Zahra be in the water?

Praying for this sweet child....

You must of lived out toward Grace Chapel or on the other side of 321 past MDI but before the bridge?

 

[Oriah]

Bumping for Oriah....

I'm not sure to be honest because I'm not sure what dogs they brought out. I can call and see. I suspect, unfortunately, that she was carried out of the house at some point. Not willing to speculate on when or why. And not understanding why if she was then the dogs wouldn't have gotten a hit or trail inside their home.

I don't have a good feeling either.

Heart currently breaking for this child who has already suffered so much, and now obviously suffering.... more.

 

[tehcloser]

She has two daughters and a son from a previous marriage. The mother and son don't have much of a relationship, the man said, after he stayed with his father when they divorced. The daughters went to live with their mother.
Still, 22-year-old Douglas Proctor said he had spoken to investigators about his mother and was dismayed over news of the case.
"It's not something that you want to open up a paper and see," he said, adding he'd met Zahra only once.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...LWNY3lLWF2wqDQ34pAEwD9IPK8V80?docId=D9IPK8V80