NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct 2010 - #15

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Personally... I don't understand why they didn't take her bedroom set/belongings the first time they were there.... They knew EB wrote the ransom note, family telling the press about the beatingings Zahra took, and 3 days later they take the mattress and such..??? and more ????? Maybe she bought the mattress after Sept. 25 th and if there is no DNA of Zahra's, two people are in going to be in alot of sh*t... I can dream... :D P.S. Thanks Sherbie... It means alot...:hug:

...from what i've learned ( in the kc anthony case ) LE can't just march in and start taking evidence without a search warrant.

...the warrant has to be signed off on by a judge, and they don't take these things lightly.

...the initial warrant they got was for the cars etc, due to the fire, ransom note etc.

...when they took out the bed, and the additional 2 bags of evidence, adam baker was there and they did so with his permission. no warrant neccessary.
 
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How good is that channel!! I only discovered it a few weeks ago and couldn't believe it. Such perfect timing here too, starts just as I settle into my desk at work. Sure my traffic manager wouldn't agree tho, and it's not easy to shuffle between JVM, NG, WS, and whatever is happening with what I'm supposed to be focusing on.

It's awesome...thanks again... :)
 
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Hello LE..:seeya: Could we get an update/new information about Zahra's case...?? Please and Thank You.. :)
..............................Never hurts to try..... :)...................................................................................................................................
 
  • #365
Have LE said -- or has AB answered -- whether he was aware that his wife had written the ransom note? I assume he has denied that, but I haven't seen anything to confirm it. I would like to see a reporter ask him that question next time there's any access to him.

Not to my knowledge, he hasn't commented on the note. I hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong.
 
  • #366
In psychiatry circles I understand that the terminology may be outdated; but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.......I'm just sayin........

Profile of the Sociopath

Glibness and Superficial Charm


Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.


Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."


Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.


Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.


Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.


Incapacity for Love


Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.


Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.


Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.


Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.


Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.


Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.


Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.


Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily

Other Related Qualities:

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

The only one that got me was the "conventional appearance". ROFL
 
  • #367
Bourbon Street !!!!!!! Nursie - I'm jealous.

Why would they put it "playing with a lighter"? So someone was just sittin' on the back steps flicking a lighter on and off? Strange

I sure hope they get the copters up and start looking at the waters.

goodness go away for a few days and there's 25 new threads you all are really moving fast...

The thing that comes to my mind with the lighter...Did the report say WHO saw this person "playing with the lighter"? My first reaction is that it was AB or EB smoking a crack pipe: Light it up; take a hit; light it up; take a hit. Not Zahra..although who would blame the poor little thing for trying to burn down that house of horrors and her crazy "family"..
JMO
 
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goodness go away for a few days and there's 25 new threads you all are really moving fast...

The thing that comes to my mind with the lighter...Did the report say WHO saw this person "playing with the lighter"? My first reaction is that it was AB or EB smoking a crack pipe: Light it up; take a hit; light it up; take a hit. Not Zahra..although who would blame the poor little thing for trying to burn down that house of horrors and her crazy "family"..
JMO

It was someone at the donut shop next door to the baker home who reported this info to police.

http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/Inve...s-in-Zahra-Baker-disappearance-105200489.html

Hope this helps:)

wm
 
  • #369
Hello LE..:seeya: Could we get an update/new information about Zahra's case...?? Please and Thank You.. :)
..............................Never hurts to try..... :)...................................................................................................................................

My gut says there's no new information because they have nothing... :banghead:
 
  • #370
Morning all! I am sooo behind on these threads for Zahra but was glad to learn the HPD is investigating the spiritual counseling network. Here's a link from pg 2.

http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13297637

Where are you Zhara?

wm
 
  • #371
My gut says there's no new information because they have nothing... :banghead:

LE has two sealed search warrants which I feel certain have yielded useful information. They've been working this case so hard. They might not be able to actually locate Zahra yet, but I feel they have compiled a lot of evidence that they simply are not sharing with the public at this time because it would not help further their investigation to do so (frustrating as that is for all of us who want to know what's been discovered!).

::slipping pillow between eleni's head and brick wall:: :)
 
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LE has two sealed search warrants which I feel certain have yielded useful information. They've been working this case so hard. They might not be able to actually locate Zahra yet, but I feel they have compiled a lot of evidence that they simply are not sharing with the public at this time because it would not help further their investigation to do so (frustrating as that is for all of us who want to know what's been discovered!).

::slipping pillow between eleni's head and brick wall:: :)

THANK YOU! :blowkiss:
 
  • #374
Pondering Mind

Do you remember your 1st words to the 911 operator?
I do. when my friend called me and was so sick she could hardly talk I hung up from her and called 911. My first words were, "my friend needs help!" and I was so upset I could hardly get that out!
 
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Canine teams continue search for missing girl
Zahra Baker's stepmother will be in court Wednesday for bond hearing in her obstruction case.
By Franco Ordoñez
[email protected]
Posted: Tuesday, Oct. 19, 2010
Zahra

HICKORY As canine-led police teams continued their search Monday for missing 10-year-old Zahra Baker, her stepmother, Elisa Baker, is preparing to return to court.

Baker, who has been charged with felony obstruction of justice, is scheduled to appear in Catawba County Superior Court on Wednesday morning for a bond hearing. Her attorney, Scott Reilly, has filed paperwork asking the court to reduce her $40,000 bond, which he says she can't afford.



Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...-teams-continue-search-for.html#ixzz12ntd14bh
 
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Video: Woman claims to have seen Zahra
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Hickory (North Carolina)
"We're speaking to her on a regular basis," Deal said of Zahra's biological mother in Australia. "She's very concerned, and she's very appreciative of everything being done to solve this case."
The deputy police chief said authorities are not clear on the circumstances of the split between the mother and father.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/10/19...+Most+Popular)&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
 
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