NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct. 2010 #26

[agathawannabe]

THank you, know off hand where on christie road they were searching? I have google earth up so I can get familiar with the area

Find Christy Road & Pine Mountain -- then follow Christy Road NE to Ekard Place (that's where they were).

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

This is not Zahras mother.. Her mother never cared before.This is an imaginatve American.

With all due respect, Peg...we don't know that.

According to that posting, AB took Zahra away without her permission. We don't know anything about her mother other than she lives in Australia...I wish she would come forward and tell everyone AB took Zahra from her native home to be with this evil, wicked woman she called Step-mother...she overcame two types of cancer, lost her leg and hearing and still had a smile a million miles wide amid the accusations of abuse, at the hands of EB!...JMHO

My only hope is that Zahra will be found alive and well, although all indications disprove that...I can only pray for a positive outcome for Zahra...JMHO


Where is Zahra??

 

[Spool]

How does LE know it is Zahra's mattress? (I missed that part) DNA seems to take forever (if poor Sylar is any indication...)

Your question is one that I've been pondering myself. Jeanne C. stated last night that "witnessess" had alerted poice to a missing mattress. Does that mean a tip was called in?
When you think about it, getting rid of any mattress is not simple. You can't just wad it up and throw it in a trash can. You have to "dispose" of it somehow. Even a twin size mattress is sort of cumbersome for one person to lug out of a room and out the door. And you have to have a vehicle to haul it away in and you have to deposit it somewhere. I'm wondering if someone with a truck helped take a a mattress to the landfill. I'm wondering if the mattress was rolled up into a log shape, like a rolled carpet, and tied or secured with cords. I'm wondering how that particular mattress could be distinguished on sight from any other mattress. (I would describe any mattress in my home as a large rectangle with a white padded cover. Can't recall any specific fabric designs or brand names. ) IMO, someone either came forth about helping remove the mattress to the landfill or maybe LE has a photograph from a computer that shows Zahra's sleeping quarters with a distinctive mattress, or they know to look for a certain size or style of mattress that has a suspicious lump in it.
MOO

 

[Patty G]

With all due respect, Peg...we don't know that.

According to that posting, AB took Zahra away without her permission. We don't know anything about her mother other than she lives in Australia...I wish she would come forward and tell everyone AB took Zahra from her native home to be with this evil, wicked woman she called Step-mother...she overcame two types of cancer, lost her leg and hearing and still had a smile a million miles wide amid the accusations of abuse, at the hands of EB!...JMHO

My only hope is that Zahra will be found alive and well, although all indications disprove that...I can only pray for a positive outcome for Zahra...JMHO


Where is Zahra??

We don't know if what was written on the other site is true or not and it could be anyone writing the comment.

 

[Spool]

FYI:

Val actually has a new article up specifically discussing the mattress for those interested.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/10/27/zahra-baker-case-why-is-the-mattress-important/

Thanks so much, BK, for this valuable link!

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

We don't know if what was written on the other site is true or not and could be anyone writing the comment.

Agreed, but we can't say that Zahra's mom didn't care. We have nothing from her own mouth, KWIM???

Who's to say one way or the other whether Zahra's mom wasn't trying to locate her child. I know it's a stretch but if AB's mother was aware of her son and graddaughter being in the US, why wouldn't she tell Zahra's mom? Was this split not a friendly one?

I think of RC and how he got custody of the children, which was done through manipulation, IMO...could this be the same reason AB took Zahra away from her homeland??? JMHO

Where is Zahra?

 

[kcsmom76]

I'm just looking at WSCOTV, WCNC and WBTV websites...and the weather and damage looks really bad and seems like it isn't going to get better until this afternoon...

Does anyone think they'll be searching for evidence today?

I am in the same county as the search and our weather was just rainy and windy. I think they will be back out until another storm comes. I hope it passes us by as did the other one. Praying for the ones that got hit last night.

 

[darnudes]

We don't know if what was written on the other site is true or not and it could be anyone writing the comment.

Could be why the comment was removed because I went to find the original and could only see the one that was a copy and paste job.

 

[nobodyspecial]

If it had to storm like that, here's hoping something important got kicked up into plain view.

 

[Soulmagent]

Your question is one that I've been pondering myself. Jeanne C. stated last night that "witnessess" had alerted poice to a missing mattress. Does that mean a tip was called in?
When you think about it, getting rid of any mattress is not simple. You can't just wad it up and throw it in a trash can. You have to "dispose" of it somehow. Even a twin size mattress is sort of cumbersome for one person to lug out of a room and out the door. And you have to have a vehicle to haul it away in and you have to deposit it somewhere. I'm wondering if someone with a truck helped take a a mattress to the landfill. I'm wondering if the mattress was rolled up into a log shape, like a rolled carpet, and tied or secured with cords. I'm wondering how that particular mattress could be distinguished on sight from any other mattress. (I would describe any mattress in my home as a large rectangle with a white padded cover. Can't recall any specific fabric designs or brand names. ) IMO, someone either came forth about helping remove the mattress to the landfill or maybe LE has a photograph from a computer that shows Zahra's sleeping quarters with a distinctive mattress, or they know to look for a certain size or style of mattress that has a suspicious lump in it.
MOO

I am smaller frame with tiny little muscles and I carry mattresses by myself often due to a strange hobby of buying other people storage units when they dont pay for them. I load them on trucks and into dumpsters alone. Granted some are harder to move then others but if it has to be done one can get it done. A twin mattress is not much of a problem. I have never had one I thought to roll up.
If I can do it she can.

 

[BritsKate]

I'm horrible at digging through all my links, but I would have sworn it was reported that the mattress was tossed 2 days before the 911 call. I found a link yesterday that claimed "days before" it was thrown out. Does anyone have anything more specific. I think it would be important in determining what AB may have known / may not have known.

Also, does anyone else find it odd that AB hasn't made bail yet ? It's like $700 to get out of there I think? I'm really :waitasec: over why he hasn't obtained a lawyer and he's still sitting in jail. Unless he was getting threats , etc. from the public and feels he's safer in there ??? It seems too coincidental that he went in there right when mama got here. Thoughts?

BBM

I'm sorry - I know this isn't overly helpful but I can't find it either. Several people here remember reading that and Val @ Hinky states on her blog that CNN reported that. Going to CNN's site though yields nothing more than 'days' prior to reporting her missing. Another case of a reworded article maybe?

Also, is it possible that the Australian Consulate is helping to secure an attorney and that process may take longer? I think perhaps having to face his mother and answer her questions may well have had an impact though. JMO

 

[Lera213]

Find Christy Road & Pine Mountain -- then follow Christy Road NE to Ekard Place (that's where they were).

I believe I saw the location on the map.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Your question is one that I've been pondering myself. Jeanne C. stated last night that "witnessess" had alerted poice to a missing mattress. Does that mean a tip was called in?
When you think about it, getting rid of any mattress is not simple. You can't just wad it up and throw it in a trash can. You have to "dispose" of it somehow. Even a twin size mattress is sort of cumbersome for one person to lug out of a room and out the door. And you have to have a vehicle to haul it away in and you have to deposit it somewhere. I'm wondering if someone with a truck helped take a a mattress to the landfill. I'm wondering if the mattress was rolled up into a log shape, like a rolled carpet, and tied or secured with cords. I'm wondering how that particular mattress could be distinguished on sight from any other mattress. (I would describe any mattress in my home as a large rectangle with a white padded cover. Can't recall any specific fabric designs or brand names. ) IMO, someone either came forth about helping remove the mattress to the landfill or maybe LE has a photograph from a computer that shows Zahra's sleeping quarters with a distinctive mattress, or they know to look for a certain size or style of mattress that has a suspicious lump in it.
MOO

I live in a 'colourful area' and mattresses are 'disposed of' in the streets around here continuously, I see a fair number on my walk into the office everyday. Usually they are dragged near a dumpster or onto the top of one and left, then picked up by whoever clears that. I really can't imagine these two actually taking it into the tip themselves, but can imagine them leaving it somewhere to be collected. Possibility of course.

 

[Patty G]

Has it ever been reported in the media that the woodchipper was taken as evidence and taken apart, or that there was no evidence on the woodchipper?

 

[agathawannabe]

I live in a 'colourful area' and mattresses are 'disposed of' in the streets around here continuously, I see a fair number on my walk into the office everyday. Usually they are dragged near a dumpster or onto the top of one and left, then picked up by whoever clears that. I really can't imagine these two actually taking it into the tip themselves, but can imagine them leaving it somewhere to be collected. Possibility of course.

Wasn't it reported that cadaver dogs hit on the dumpster at the donut shop behind the Bakers' house (or am I making that up)? Can't seem to find that in an article now.. but that's what I recall.

I think the mattress may have been disposed of in that dumpster and ended up in the landfill from there.

 

[BritsKate]

Could be why the comment was removed because I went to find the original and could only see the one that was a copy and paste job.

The original is on a previous post and still intact. The person who C&P'd did so in order that other readers wouldn't miss the post. This is the link to the original comment:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/10/20/zahra-baker-case-911-calls-released/

Scroll down to the very bottom. HTH

 

[Patty G]

Could be why the comment was removed because I went to find the original and could only see the one that was a copy and paste job.

It's still there just under another article.

 

[tlcya]

hope all our local friends stayed safe last night and hoping for minimal property damage from the storms. Good morning all, here's to hoping this is the day we get some answers.

 

[darnudes]

The original is on a previous post and still intact. The person who C&P'd did so in order that other readers wouldn't miss the post. This is the link to the original comment:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/10/20/zahra-baker-case-911-calls-released/

Scroll down to the very bottom. HTH

Thank you I looked all over for the original comment and couldn't find it anywhere - okay so Val left it intact.

Having been burnt in the past and no disrespect to Zahra's mother, but I won't believe it is really her until verified by Val, which I know she does do on occasion, such as with the Eric Preimesberger case.

 

[tlcya]

just my own two cents, If I am the long silent, at least to public, bio mother of Z. When I do finally decde to clear the air and make a public statement about my daughter's disappearance, it won't be on a site such as Val's. No offense to Val or the site, but with all the rumor and intertest about "where is bio mom, who is bio mom, why is bio mom not speaking?" IF and WHEN I was goign to say something, it would be to MSM, not a letter to an arbitrary site.