NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct. 2010 #37

[Mountain_Kat]

If there is evidence inside the house that indicates a massive clean up effort, there is no way EB did this alone, or in the time frame between when AB says he last saw Zahra and Saturday afternoon. I still stand by my opinion that, in the least, his guilt lies in his failure to act to protect his daughter. MOO

And I still stand by my opinion that at the very least, he helped clean up the crime scene and dispose of evidence. MOO

 

[wfgodot]

Did we ever "pin point" where on the property the "red goo glove" was found? IIRC it was somewhere along the property line that edges the neighbor's house.

Could that be a very definitive piece of evidence and also possibly why the change to homicide so early on?

There's just way too many questions going unanswered with the few lil crumbs we have been thrown.

Close as I can find:

"Charles Rotenberry, a friend of the family, called police after finding a glove in the bushes near the Baker’s backyard.

'It had a bad smell to it and there was just red goo all in it,' he says."

http://www.wcnc.com/news/Search-warrant-reveals-new-details-in-Zahra-Baker-case-104736309.html

 

[myzzy]

tomrrow i pray is the day they find Zahra

 

[froginTtown]

how do we know if Zahra's room was in the back of the house or the front....?? I think we are assuming... and I'm not falling for a pink curtain either... I think it has all been staged just like the ransom note, fire and etc... JMO...

 

[Reannan]

how do we know if Zahra's room was in the back of the house or the front....?? I think we are assuming... and I'm not falling for a pink curtain either... I think it has all been staged just like the ransom note, fire and etc... JMO...

This was from an article published today... "Investigators and Hickory firefighters resumed their scouring of the house, focusing on Zahra’s room in the right rear of the house."

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/...-return-baker-house-seize-evidence-ar-502595/

 

[tfrohning]

How can we have three cases of missing children, with less than bright suspects and we can't locate the bodies to bring closure? Haleigh, Kyron, and now Zahra!! I think LE is doing a great job, but maybe we need to bring the meter reader from Florida into the case.... :innocent:

Plis little Sylar Newton
IDK but I think the same thing every day. I do feel on Zahra's case that the perts are not to smart at all. I feel that LE knows everything they need and charges will be coming soon. It a waiting games until tests come back.

 

[78gidget78]

i just want to reiterate after looking at todays pictures how much i really really don't like that manhole in front of that house. also it has no bearing whatsoever on anything but i also don't know that it matters which room was zahra's because i'm not entirely sure they were keeping her in there much anyway given all the attention paid to the crawl space. personal experience (i had that kind of upbringing) tells me there is likely an access panel from inside the house, bedroom/hall closet floor. at this point the entire house seems to be the scene of the crime and now poor little zahra just needs to be found.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Close as I can find:

"Charles Rotenberry, a friend of the family, called police after finding a glove in the bushes near the Baker’s backyard.

'It had a bad smell to it and there was just red goo all in it,' he says."

http://www.wcnc.com/news/Search-warrant-reveals-new-details-in-Zahra-Baker-case-104736309.html

Wait a second...does that news report say that in the 911 missing child report AB told police that someone also poured gas in HIS vehicle and abducted his daughter? That can't be right. Is it? :waitasec:

 

[panthera]

And I still stand by my opinion that at the very least, he helped clean up the crime scene and dispose of evidence. MOO

I believe he did that also, which would be covering up for EB, and making a statement that she is more important than his daughter. And for that, I pray LE can charge both of them in Zahra's death. MOO

 

[Reannan]

Plis little Sylar Newton
IDK but I think the same thing every day. I do feel on Zahra's case that the perts are not to smart at all. I feel that LE knows everything they need and charges will be coming soon. It a waiting games until tests come back.

I felt the same way about Kyron's case too!!! I mean, it is just so frustrating!!! I can only imagine how the people who are involved with investigating this case must feel.

 

[panthera]

tomrrow i pray is the day they find Zahra

I'm now going to say good night with the same prayer. raying:


:seeya:

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Here's a thought on the fridge. BTW its driving me CRAZY about that.

Maybe they had to cut through the floor in the kitchen and the part they wanted was either very close to or even under the fridge and when they cut through the fridge wouldn't have been able to stand - KWIM? I would think they would just move it out of the way but if they were going over the entire kitchen - then its best to just remove it from the home.

Along with that thought - we don't know which cabinets they took out. It very well could be the bottom kitchen cabinets - again under that piece of floor.

JMO

 

[netsleuther]

If there is evidence inside the house that indicates a massive clean up effort, there is no way EB did this alone, or in the time frame between when AB says he last saw Zahra and Saturday afternoon. I still stand by my opinion that, in the least, his guilt lies in his failure to act to protect his daughter. MOO

I know if I were taking one piece of evidence and at this time had a warrant for as much evidence as I needed, I would take it all.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I'm sitting here with my jaw open at this point.

 

[lauriej]

Close as I can find:

"Charles Rotenberry, a friend of the family, called police after finding a glove in the bushes near the Baker’s backyard.

'It had a bad smell to it and there was just red goo all in it,' he says."

http://www.wcnc.com/news/Search-warrant-reveals-new-details-in-Zahra-Baker-case-104736309.html

-----a ---friend? ---of the family?

...if he was a ----friend----when did he last see zarha ??

...or is he a neighbour ?

 

[netsleuther]

Posted way back!....It was AF that I saw with AB at the local Walmart a day or two before the hearing where she testified against EB. Hard to say who they are staying with..

pity tha fool who taps them on the shoulder to ask them a silly question.

AF wouldn't be making up a story that if EB got out she would have to leave the state for no reason.

KB is in the US but wants privacy so she can help LE do their job properly, they have their own people to talk to and if there is little talk going to you, then at this time they are just shopping for something to keep them comfortable while they are in that Country, what more would they be doing they need someone to show them around that strange place, the town that lost Zahra.

Sorry but just sayin...you know if you were walking in their shoes you wouldn't be standing around Walmart saying come talk to me stranger especially at this time. Read the Townsville Bulletin if you want to know Adam and can't find out elsewhere. Ask them the questions about Adam they have KB on speed dial but don't annoy them because they are busy people too

 

[Peliman]

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[wfgodot]

-----a ---friend? ---of the family?

...if he was a ----friend----when did he last see zarha ??

...or is he a neighbour ?

I believe he was a former neighbor of the Bakers - not sure where though.

 

[froginTtown]

I think the big give away on the ransom note was the fact that it was written on their electric bill envelope and the actual bill was found in the vehicle...
Who goes to kidnap a child an searches around a vehicle to find something to write a ransom note on... especially in the dark.. puts gas inside the vehicle, sneaks around back to start a fire as a distraction, so that the kidnappers can sneak inside and take a one legged daughter from the home while their not looking... but yet the kidnappers didn't notice the difference between the bosses daughter and Zahra.. but knew that he had a red headed pot smoking son... whew... OK.. makes sense...??

 

[tehcloser]

pity tha fool who taps them on the shoulder to ask them a silly question.

AF wouldn't be making up a story that if EB got out she would have to leave the state for no reason.

KB is in the US but wants privacy so she can help LE do their job properly, they have their own people to talk to and if there is little talk going to you, then at this time they are just shopping for something to keep them comfortable while they are in that Country, what more would they be doing they need someone to show them around that strange place, the town that lost Zahra.

Sorry but just sayin...you know if you were walking in their shoes you wouldn't be standing around Walmart saying come talk to me stranger especially at this time. Read the Townsville Bulletin if you want to know Adam and can't find out elsewhere. Ask them the questions about Adam they have KB on speed dial but don't annoy them because they are busy people too

BBM

Not sure what you mean by the first part, but the TOWN didn't loose Zahra. That was her dad and step mom.