NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct. 2010 #40

[passionflower]

I'm just putting out another theory here for this. Adam said in one of the interviews that Zahra had a stomach flu. Could they have been looking for evidence of that also?

or poison

 

[tlcya]

Have we ever had any sort of confirmation that they ARE indeed authored by EB or are we stil just reasonably sure they are at this point? tia

 

[Eileen730]

I'm just putting out another theory here for this. Adam said in one of the interviews that Zahra had a stomach flu. Could they have been looking for evidence of that also?

She didnt have a stomach flu!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that was what EB told AB so he wouldnt go looking in on her he was probably told to leave her alone she is SLEEPING.... I dont think he had seen his DAUGHTER in a LONG TIME JMO

 

[peg4x4]

Still,all I can do is try to think/find out why?Why bother to bring her to the US? Spite aginst the grandmother? Why the neglect when everything had been done to keep her well... Why,when she died,the stupid "plan".

 

[nobodyspecial]

I'm just putting out another theory here for this. Adam said in one of the interviews that Zahra had a stomach flu. Could they have been looking for evidence of that also?

I am sure this isn't new to y'all either but blunt trauma to abdomen can cause all kinds of nasty things to happen that can take time to become fatal. Again, "didn't really kill her" would make sense to EB

As always jmo

 

[passionflower]

I would like to know if AB is/was ever a HUNTER.
Knives, knowing how to dismember, knowlege of stuff like that.

 

[Eileen730]

Have we ever had any sort of confirmation that they ARE indeed authored by EB or are we stil just reasonably sure they are at this point? tia

I have a feeling they are hers and were written by her! Let her hang herself!

What moron would take credit for this henious crime? JMO

 

[RoseTree]

If EB caused Zahra to sustain a head injury that took her hours or a day or so to succumb to, EB may very well believe they "Didn't really kill her". Abnormal, detached, sociopathic thinking.

Jmo

And this may have caused symptoms of a stomach bug...

 

[tlcya]

I have a feeling they are hers and were written by her! Let her hang herself!

What moron would take credit for this henious crime? JMO

I agree, they are more probably her's than not, but I just want to be clear that until some sort of official confirmation, they are really still "alleged"

Specicifity and all that jazz.

 

[watchful_eye]

OH SNAP. The landlord said, "I'm putting him out on the street." Take THAT Baker!!!!!

Maybe LE can find him a new home....a nice 1 bedroom concrete cell

 

[Clue Hopper]

I am sure this isn't new to y'all either but blunt trauma to abdomen can cause all kinds of nasty things to happen that can take time to become fatal. Again, "didn't really kill her" would make sense to EB

As always jmo

That was my thought. A strong blow to the abdomen. It could explain why he said puberty too.

 

[passionflower]

Still,all I can do is try to think/find out why?Why bother to bring her to the US? Spite aginst the grandmother? Why the neglect when everything had been done to keep her well... Why,when she died,the stupid "plan".

that is why their internet courtship or first couple months in AU is SO IMPORTANT!!!
Why did they move Zahra to US.........no health coverage, Zahra didn't want to go, and IMO AB was not a hands on dad.........IMO, he let his mom KB do all the raising of Zahra.

I feel greatly for grandma KB.
Her hands were tied.
She could not stop these monsters from legally taking Zahra away.
KB didn't really know where Zahra was and what AB/EB was doing to Zahra.
My heart bleeds for KB.

 

[nobodyspecial]

And this may have caused symptoms of a stomach bug...

Exactly! Head or abdominal trauma could easily fit.

 

[Eileen730]

I would like to know if AB is/was ever a HUNTER.
Knives, knowing how to dismember, knowlege of stuff like that.

How could he do that to his daughter? How insane is that? sick sick sick!

JMO
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but it sure looks like thats where we are headed here dosent it?

 

[TxLady2]

All just speculation and MOO:

I don't believe Zahra died from any illness of neglect (although, it's possible there was illness and neglect). I'm now almost 95% certain that Zahra was murdered. What I can't get a clear resolution on at the moment is WHY. (But I'm working on it.)

I agree with you there. I believe Zahra was tortured in some way over a period of time. Whatever they were doing to her, they may not have intended for her to die. When she died, they were scared to report it and made up this story of the boss' daughter and Zahra being kidnapped by mistake.
I think Zahra has been dead for awhile, longer than she was first reported missing.
These are sick, sick people.

 

[watchful_eye]

UH OH. I missed A WHOLE LOT. Did Elisa confess?? What about a letter???

Please....someone fill me in????!!!!!!!

 

[Soulmagent]

All just speculation and MOO:

I don't believe Zahra died from any illness of neglect (although, it's possible there was illness and neglect). I'm now almost 95% certain that Zahra was murdered. What I can't get a clear resolution on at the moment is WHY. (But I'm working on it.)

Speculative.
I just cant bring myself to believe that is was a planned murder. Murder by abuse I can see but I just do not believe the intent to murder. I believe the intent to harm.

I do think it was murder. I think she had a fatal injury that she suffered though and died because after the injury medical help was not sought. I also have the feeling she suffered for an extended amount of time before she died with the injury that caused her death. It explains why they had to cover everything up and why they didnt seem shocked she was missing and why the weird 911 call. They had time to adjust the emotions and downplay their roles in her death because it was not an instant.
They probably tied nursing her back to health at home to avoid arrest.

I also wondered if she died in the truck if the pillow and blanket were in the truck it could have been because they did try to take her to get treatment when things got critical. It could have been to late and she died in the truck. (dog hit)
Then her body is moved back into the house. And then moved with the other car.(dog hit.)
We heard rumors the dog did not hit in the house and it did hit on the house. What if both rumors are true. One dog detects the earliest scent of death(the first dog ) Except the smell isnt in the house because it is in the car. The second dog detects the later smells of decomp which is in the house.
Making the officers tear apart the house. All just speculative, sorry so long.

Also I do not really know alot about the early and later scents in training dogs.So that could be way off.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

In all these letters just no conscience at all.
Never a I miss little Zahra
Never I am sorry
Never any emotion of Zahra at all!!!
Just I,I,I, me, me me...........another ICA.
No tears for Zahra.
No emotion about her husband.........
guess I'll just divorse him...............loveless
What held this marriage together?
Abuse and murder of Zahra????

The level of her narcissism is truly disturbing.

EB: I have 2 of the best lawyers in the country AND my own private investigator.
(You're gonna need 'em dumb@)
EB: I'm 42 and I've been told I don't look my age.
(No kidding)
EB: I love all horror movies
(No surprise there)

She is "all about EB" isn't she? Part of this reads like an audition for The Dating Game.
:sick:

 

[Eileen730]

that is why their internet courtship or first couple months in AU is SO IMPORTANT!!!
Why did they move Zahra to US.........no health coverage, Zahra didn't want to go, and IMO AB was not a hands on dad.........IMO, he let his mom KB do all the raising of Zahra.

I feel greatly for grandma KB.
Her hands were tied.
She could not stop these monsters from legally taking Zahra away.
KB didn't really know where Zahra was and what AB/EB was doing to Zahra.
My heart bleeds for KB.

Maybe his plan was to marry her become a U.S. citizen and bring his mom
and everyone here. Somewhere along the line his plans fell apart.
Was he a con or a criminal in OZ? Or did that happen afer he met EB?
What a shame! JMO

 

[Kamille]

Joyce Day of Newton was one of the estimated 15 people who showed up to watch Baker’s departure from the house. She said she knew Elisa Baker because Baker had been married to her nephew, Aaron Young.

Day is convinced Elisa and Adam are behind Zahra’s disappearance, and she had no kind words for either of them.

“He (Adam) let her (Elisa) do this to his kid. He absolutely let her do it,” Day said. “It should have been him instead of this child.”

She said she knows Elisa, but she’d only met Adam and Zahra once at a pet store. “I know Zahra called Elisa ‘mama,’” she said.

Day called Elisa Baker evil and said she is a cold, controlling woman.

Interesting perspective from someone who is related somewhat. I still haven't seen confirmation that they were actually married and divorced. :waitasec:

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2010/nov/03/crowd-taunts-baker-evicted-ar-505700/