Found Deceased ND - Savanna Lafontaine-Greywind, 22, pregnant, Fargo, 19 Aug 2017 #1 *Arrests*

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  • #741
For anyone who saw his facebook page, didn't it say he at some point lived in Minnesota?

Yes, it said he lived in Moorhead, MN. Moorhead, MN and Fargo,ND are sister cities and just separated by the river
 
  • #742
I hate saying this but unless they researched where they should cut, I suspect that they may have slit her open along the side of her torso to remove the baby. They didn't care about damage to her organs etc. Proper C sections are very delicate to perform. I was awake during mine, and they let me watch without the barrier.
 
  • #743
Need to step away and take a break.....So profoundly upsetting...
 
  • #744
Have there been reports of LE taking computers out of the apartment or other things?
 
  • #745
I still think those could be the same vehicle. Can't tell how the hood looks on the pic at the press conference. But they are both jeeps, so they would look really similar....

Edit to add: On Fargo PD facebook, they have put more photos, indicating there is one jeep. https://www.facebook.com/fargopolicedepartment/posts/10155588961283334

Edited again to add that the daylight pictures are behind the apartment complex, and the dark photo is of the jeep on the towing wheels, likely in an impound lot or police lot??

^^^ Respectfully BBM

<snip & BBM> We are also seeking information regarding the brown 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4 door with MN 876 EPR plates pictured in the attached photos. If you have seen this Jeep anytime between Saturday, August the 19th afternoon and Thursday, August the 24th afternoon please let us know. Some distinguishing characteristics of the Jeep is the rust on the roof and the missing paint on the hood.

https://www.facebook.com/fargopolicedepartment/posts/10155588961283334


The abandoned vehicle found behind the apt's parking lot & which the cadaver dog alerted to and the jeep they are searching for are one and the same. I think
 
  • #746
please not a saw :(

A brief timeline at link below:

http://www.wday.com/news/4317545-recap-key-events-savanna-lafontaine-greywind-case


And this from link:

< snip> 2:30 p.m., Norberta LaFontaine-Greywind sends her 16-year-old son to the upstairs apartment to get his sister, who was to drive him to work. Her brother knocks on the door, but no one answers. He hears what he thinks is a sewing machine running in the apartment. Savanna's father, Joe Greywind, then knocks on the upstairs apartment door. A woman answers the door and says Savanna will be a bit longer.


What's with the possible sound of the running sewing machine? I haven't touched a sewing machine in many, many decades...can you get it to run continuously without actually operating it?
 
  • #747
The press conference is here (I still cannot hear the questions):
http://www.valleynewslive.com/conte...Savanna-Greywind-investigation-441738703.html

They were originally doing surveillance with the hope of finding both alive. When baby was found and the two were questioned, they refused to say more when asked about Savanna's location. They were then arrested.

@4:08, talking about the Grand Cherokee Jeep (belonging to the couple) asks for info if was seen Saturday or Sunday
@5:35, talks about the 3 consent searches (nothing discovered).
@6:01 mark, says there is a possibility the baby was not in the apartment at time of searches (speaks about the 4 searches just before this)

PART 2:
@:19 - 1:11 (beginning of Part 2, first questions) dogs indicated on an abandoned vehicle, got a search warrant, found nothing
@2:35, used search dogs early, cadaver dogs yesterday
@4:10, Grand Forks connection (4 Individuals)
@8:02, Mr. Butch (sp?), State's Attorney, on why no charges yet. Reviewing info for appropriate charges.
 
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  • #751
Have there been reports of LE taking computers out of the apartment or other things?

Only after they got the Search Warrant. Did not take tech devices or laptops during the initial 3 consents to search. Believe was stated during the presser today
 
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  • #753
I still think those could be the same vehicle. Can't tell how the hood looks on the pic at the press conference. But they are both jeeps, so they would look really similar....

Edit to add: On Fargo PD facebook, they have put more photos, indicating there is one jeep. https://www.facebook.com/fargopolicedepartment/posts/10155588961283334

Edited again to add that the daylight pictures are behind the apartment complex, and the dark photo is of the jeep on the towing wheels, likely in an impound lot or police lot??

^^^ Respectfully BBM

<snip & BBM> We are also seeking information regarding the brown 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4 door with MN 876 EPR plates pictured in the attached photos. If you have seen this Jeep anytime between Saturday, August the 19th afternoon and Thursday, August the 24th afternoon please let us know. Some distinguishing characteristics of the Jeep is the rust on the roof and the missing paint on the hood.

https://www.facebook.com/fargopolicedepartment/posts/10155588961283334


The abandoned vehicle found behind the apt's parking lot & which the cadaver dog alerted to and the jeep they are searching for are one and the same. I think


I don't think they are the same vehicle. in the press conference, when talking about the "somewhat abandoned" vehicle "in the back parking lot" that was searched, he says he is not aware that this abandoned vehicle was towed away. It is at beginning of Part 2 @ :54-1:4
http://www.valleynewslive.com/conte...Savanna-Greywind-investigation-441738703.html
 
  • #754
This is a tragic case.
I think we should all be aware it's likely going to get worse before it gets better.

Lots of triggers on this for me. I will proceed with caution.

Take care of yourselves my fellow readers.
 
  • #755
Garbage collection for that part of town is Mondays. Can confirm, I live 8 blocks from there. There is river access to the north and east of there, about 1/2 mile each way. The fire department has already been in that river. The Red River of the North is notorious for taking bodies and not giving them up.
 
  • #756
Garbage collection for that part of town is Mondays. Can confirm, I live 8 blocks from there. There is river access to the north and east of there, about 1/2 mile each way. The fire department has already been in that river. The Red River of the North is notorious for taking bodies and not giving them up.

:welcome:
 
  • #757
please not a saw :(

I highly doubt there was use of a saw on a person in that apartment in such a short time with no evidence left behind.

Garbage collection for that part of town is Mondays. Can confirm, I live 8 blocks from there. There is river access to the north and east of there, about 1/2 mile each way. The fire department has already been in that river. The Red River of the North is notorious for taking bodies and not giving them up.

Welcome to the forum. I wondered that about the river. It worries me that she will never be found.

(Love your screen name, by the way!)
 
  • #758
i agree, however the 3 searches were visual and we don't have results of the forensic one.

I highly doubt there was use of a saw on a person in that apartment in such a short time with no evidence left behind.



Welcome to the forum. I wondered that about the river. It worries me that she will never be found.

(Love your screen name, by the way!)
 
  • #759
It was foolish of me to think that one or the other of these two would flip and provide LE with Savanna's whereabouts by this morning.

These two abducted her from a small complex where they also reside!

These two abducted her in a bldg her own parents live in!

Where media were swarming and LE was surveilling and lurking!

A bldg where the female is bringing this infant back and forth in a large laundry basket and/or large bag after 3 searches!

What brass [blank] these two have!



At what point in the process do they have to submit to drug tests?

IF either tests positive, only after withdrawal will LE get some answers from perhaps one of them
 
  • #760
Sorry if you all have seen this before. It appears BC has a child who is not in her custody also. Is this the common thread between she and Hoehn? They created some alternate reality in which they can share a child? The motive in this case is mind boggling.
http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1613938135
 
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