Found Deceased ND - Savanna Lafontaine-Greywind, 22, pregnant, Fargo, 19 Aug 2017 #2 *Arrests*

[Elainera]

My guess is that WH's story has more of the truth in it. The thumping in the bathtub and the shower running for a long time leads me to believe Savanna was harmed within the hour. But I don't think BC did it on her own, I think WH participated. Depends on how his alibi held up.

I wonder how many more stories they will tell until the evidence tells the truth?

I also think it was BC's idea and plan, and WH helped.

Now he'll try to distance himself from the actual murder.

 

[sassysushi]

I am new to websleuths so I hope I don't break any rules . I am originally from the Fargo Moorhead area spent over 30 years there and still have family & friends there. My daughter just sent me a pic of the farmstead from a distance of course . There looks to be at least 2 of the large criminal investigation vehicles and multiple other police vehicles . The farm must be directly over the bridge in Minnesota . I am sure they are waiting on more evidence before charging them with murder . If she was taken over state line and murdered they can bring federal charges with the death penalty . This case is similar to the Dru Sjodin case where a 22 year old woman was kidnapped from a mall parking lot in Grand Forks ND . She was kidnapped in November and the perpetrator was arrested a week or 2 later . I believe his mother may even turned him in to the police . I do know when he AR was up for parole , before he had committed this crime of course . I believe both his mother and sister asked the parole board not to release him because they felt he would be a danger and relapse. I know they found Dru in the spring in Minnesota after the snow melted . After that federal charges were brought against AR and he got the death penalty . I guess we need to be patient and realize the LE is doing their best to process the crime scenes and making sure the charges stick . It's what Savanna deserves she was a beautiful soul . This is so heartbreaking I hope her family and loved ones know she has touched us all .

 

[Gardener1850]

Wasn't the ruse related to modelling a dress? I wouldn't be surprised if it was relatively easy to get her to the farm property - abandoned places like that are popular for photo shoots if she sincerely believed the story.

Not that it matters now, but the ruse used wasn't to be a model wearing a dress for a photo shoot. It was to wear a dress that BC was sewing so she could pin it/alter it properly. It's the dumbest ruse, however, and I don't buy that Savanna even went to their apt willingly for a dress fitting. It makes no sense. I think the suspects sent those texts from Savanna's phone after they had subdued her. JMO.

 

[racingislife9697]

My guess is that WH's story has more of the truth in it. The thumping in the bathtub and the shower running for a long time leads me to believe Savanna was harmed within the hour. But I don't think BC did it on her own, I think WH participated. Depends on how his alibi held up.

I wonder how many more stories they will tell until the evidence tells the truth?

True. I forgot about the thumping shower statement. Time to get the luminal out !! So they would have had to move her to the farm which is where she gave birth ? I seriously hope the scums tell what happened. .. the truth. Family deserves that.


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[LaborDayRN]

If you have information of her losing custody/visiting rights by the court, please share. I am not aware of any of her children being taken away. From all the accounts I read, in the MSM stories, she left, disappeared, divorced, vanished. 7 children by 5 men, out there being raised with little to no contact with their mother....
WH, on the other hand, would be the issue, from his child abuse conviction.I would imagine any child he had would be under scruitiny?

I may be mistaken. I've been out of town for the last few weeks and just returned. I have read both threads in this case in the last hour and was under the impression that she had had multiple children removed from her custody. Now looking back, I believe I had her confused with the woman whose name was released in MSM but was not involved. I apologize for my confusion. To much horrible information to take in at once I guess.

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

IMO if there was blood in the bathroom per WH's comment, then S was either killed there or the baby delivered there. Both events could not have taken place at the farmhouse.

 

[LaborDayRN]

( Glad you made it, :wave: )

Hi Margarita! :tyou:

 

[MsMarple]

I may be mistaken. I've been out of town for the last few weeks and just returned. I have read both threads in this case and was under the impression that she had had multiple children removed from her custody. Now looking back, I believe I had her confused with the woman whose name was released in MSM but was not involved. I apologize for my confusion. To much horrible information to take in at once I guess.

You have it right, LaborDayRN.

Court records from Florida, Minnesota and North Dakota show Crews has had children by at least five men. Two of the men, including Edwards, and her eldest child, who’s now in her mid-20s, sued her for child support.

http://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...cle_a7439fe9-40cf-51d4-aea8-31502648c505.html

 

[Gardener1850]

I think both are lying liars who lie and I'm disgusted by their lies... How did either of them think they would get away with those horrible stories? :furious:

 

[LaborDayRN]

You have it right, LaborDayRN.


http://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...cle_a7439fe9-40cf-51d4-aea8-31502648c505.html

Thanks MsMarple. I'm having jet lag so I think I'm functioning on 1 brain cell! :blushing: I do wonder however, if the children were removed from her care or if she walked away.

 

[Mountain Misst]

If in fact, she has had multiple children removed from her care, she wouldn't want anyone to think she was pregnant. In most cases, after having several children removed, parental rights are terminated and any further children are removed after birth by DCFS from the birth parent.
I believe that in her (and his) monstrous mind, the only way to have another child was to take one from a pregnant woman. This case is horrifying and heartbreaking!

IMO, BC is the more dangerous of the two and the actual perpetrator of the fetal abduction that resulted in the death of Savannah. WH is no innocent by any means, I do not mean that. I ask (from the position of opinion) if he was possibly obsessed with Savannah and this triggered BC to attempt to satisfy his perceived need.

 

[Kpossible]

That or she was lured away from the apartment, maybe for "lunch" or something after the dress fitting (if there even was one) and driven to that farmhouse. I'm thinking she had the baby at the farmhouse and they kept her there for a couple days before before bringing baby back to the apartment.

Definitely a possibility! Wherever it all went down, it's unlikely she delivered that baby though. They would have had to have some powerful resources to induce labor so quickly at 8 months. They also would have had to heavily restrain her. And why bother? They weren't going to keep her alive. But of course, anything is possible at this point. Definitely thinking money was the motive though.

 

[georgiajean]

Thanks MsMarple. I'm have jet lag so I think I'm functioning on 1 brain cell! :blushing: I do wonder however, if the children were removed from her care or if she walked away.

I definitely didn't intend to come across as critical, so I am sorry if I did! I was trying to see what I had missed. I have not seen any evidence that children were removed from her care. I think she removed herself from their lives. But we may not have all the info!

 

[perfectingpink]

I am new to websleuths so I hope I don't break any rules . I am originally from the Fargo Moorhead area spent over 30 years there and still have family & friends there. My daughter just sent me a pic of the farmstead from a distance of course . There looks to be at least 2 of the large criminal investigation vehicles and multiple other police vehicles . The farm must be directly over the bridge in Minnesota . I am sure they are waiting on more evidence before charging them with murder . If she was taken over state line and murdered they can bring federal charges with the death penalty . This case is similar to the Dru Sjodin case where a 22 year old woman was kidnapped from a mall parking lot in Grand Forks ND . She was kidnapped in November and the perpetrator was arrested a week or 2 later . I believe his mother may even turned him in to the police . I do know when he AR was up for parole , before he had committed this crime of course . I believe both his mother and sister asked the parole board not to release him because they felt he would be a danger and relapse. I know they found Dru in the spring in Minnesota after the snow melted . After that federal charges were brought against AR and he got the death penalty . I guess we need to be patient and realize the LE is doing their best to process the crime scenes and making sure the charges stick . It's what Savanna deserves she was a beautiful soul . This is so heartbreaking I hope her family and loved ones know she has touched us all .

:welcome:

 

[Gardener1850]

That or she was lured away from the apartment, maybe for "lunch" or something after the dress fitting (if there even was one) and driven to that farmhouse. I'm thinking she had the baby at the farmhouse and they kept her there for a couple days before before bringing baby back to the apartment.


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I don't think she would have gotten into a car to go eat lunch with these two. She had just ordered a pizza before they knocked on her apt door. Her mother said she left without eating her pizza. Also, she had plans to drive her brother to work later that day. Even if these two were good friends of hers (which they were not, she hardly knew them) it would not make sense for her to go anywhere with them at that time of day.

 

[Seattle1]

GREYWIND COURT DOCUMENTS

http://www.kvrr.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/GREYWIND-COURT-DOCUMENT.pdf

 

[LaborDayRN]

I definitely didn't intend to come across as critical, so I am sorry if I did! I was trying to see what I had missed. I have not seen any evidence that children were removed from her care. I think she removed herself from their lives. But we may not have all the info!

No worries georgiajean! I didn't take any offence to your response. It wouldn't be the first time nor the last that I've made a mistake!

 

[LaborDayRN]

GREYWIND COURT DOCUMENTS

http://www.kvrr.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/GREYWIND-COURT-DOCUMENT.pdf

I'm almost afraid to read them....................

 

[georgiajean]

IMO, BC is the more dangerous of the two and the actual perpetrator of the fetal abduction that resulted in the death of Savannah. WH is no innocent by any means, I do not mean that. I ask (from the position of opinion) if he was possibly obsessed with Savannah and this triggered BC to attempt to satisfy his perceived need.

I agree about BC being the more dangerous. I had been reflecting on WH. He made a comment last year, at the anniversary of when he fractured his son's skull. (on his FB). Something about 3 years passing. Several comments expressing regret. So maybe this was her way of making up to him that he had lost his son? They appear to have had a volatile relationship based on court records, with multiple Domestic violence accounts.

Hopefully the many people who have crossed paths with these two manifestations of evil will contribute their experiences to the court case.

 

[Seattle1]

GREYWIND COURT DOCUMENTS

http://www.kvrr.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/GREYWIND-COURT-DOCUMENT.pdf

Hope link posted above works because I couldn't figure out how to upload the pdf file here!