Found Deceased ND - Savanna Lafontaine-Greywind, 22, pregnant, Fargo, 19 Aug 2017 #2 *Arrests*

[KarmaRoundUp]

Ugh, what a sickening thought. You're right. His story is slightly more believable than BC's. I still think he is lying. :moo:

Plus IMO the baby girl wasn't born at the apartment because I believe Savanna's Father would have heard something going on when he knocked on their door....didn't the Father go up to check on her around 2:30 or so?Same time killer said he got home?

 

[nancydrew71]

Was this the same person who told reporters another woman lived in that apt and had a pic of her on their cell phone? Even though that woman never lived there and had never been there?

No the article said it was the tenant below them and this person said they were ready to go out and then heard all this banging and loud noises from the upstairs bathroom, I assumed they were attacking this poor woman in the bathtub. I can't even think about it, it makes me sick.

 

[Isabelle]

Does anyone know how long a mother can produce milk for once deceased?

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I believe that ability ceases at death, because there is no blood flow to the mammary organs.

 

[Rocco]

No the article said it was the tenant below them and this person said they were ready to go out and then heard all this banging and loud noises from the upstairs bathroom, I assumed they were attacking this poor woman in the bathtub. I can't even think about it, it makes me sick.

Thanks. Do you happen to have a link to the article you're talking about? tia

 

[Oregonmama]

Just listening to the hearing. Floored by WH's discontent with the bail, saying it is in no way attainable for a regular person. Like he thinks that the goal is to have him out on bail. No, you embodiment of evil, the idea is to set the bail so high that you will not be able to get out. The way he said it made it seem like he wasn't being treated fairly. Wow.

This^^^^^ is why the baby is in protective custody. The guy is nuts and the baby's safety comes first!

 

[KayCherry]

Yea that could be. Either way there are no words for what this woman did to her. Its beyond despicable. Slicing her open and getting her baby out, beyond evil

This is a tough one, physically ill at times

 

[KayCherry]

No the article said it was the tenant below them and this person said they were ready to go out and then heard all this banging and loud noises from the upstairs bathroom, I assumed they were attacking this poor woman in the bathtub. I can't even think about it, it makes me sick.

Savanna rest in peace sweet mother

 

[cvaldez1975]

[h=1]Pregnant Fargo woman ‘victim of a cruel and vicious act of depravity’; Suspects face conspiracy to kidnap, murder charges[/h]
http://www.twincities.com/2017/08/2...cts-face-conspiracy-to-kidnap-murder-charges/

They should be charged w mayhem as well


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[whitelilac]

I've been away for 2 days, just logged on. Saw "located" and stopped breathing.

Caught up......I have no words. Dear God. Hideous and depraved...

My heart breaks for her grieving family and boyfriend and her beautiful daughter.

Rest in peace dear Savanna.

 

[Legally Bland]

I still can't figure out how they got her to leave her apartment bc after having 3 kids I know that at 8 months pregnant with swollen feet and just ordering a pizza the last thing I would agree to do is fill in for a mannequin so a woman I have spoken out about stealing my clothes could hem a dress! Just wouldn't happen and I can't see it happening here. But I think however they got her out of the apartment and to their place she was somehow given a drug...along the lines of a date rape type drug. I had something slipped into my drink years ago and while I could still walk for a couple hours I would not have been able to scream for help or put up any type of fight. I think it went like this....
Got her out of her apartment and into their apartment. Drugged her. When WH arrived home at 2:30 BC brought her to his truck. It was stated in the beginning that she was last seen outside the apartment building at 2:30, same time he says he got home from work. He brought her to the farm and BC went back to their apartment in time to answer the 2:45 knock on the door from Savanna's dad. They killed her and removed the baby at the farm, wrapped her body and put her in the truck to bring her to the water. Which would explain why the dog hit on the truck. My heart actually hurts for Savanna and all that know and love her!! [emoji22]


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Your post makes a lot of sense, but the bit in bold, if we only have WH's word that he arrived home at 2:30 I'm not taking it as fact.

I can't see someone coming home and covering up for this on the spur of the moment. They were in it together and it was planned. IMO.

 

[JulieAnne]

I don't want to skirt rules or get in trouble here. I respect this forum and understand why it must remain above reproach.

That said - if something online is mentioned repeatedly - but not validated by anyone official... can the topic be brought up as a hypothetical scenario or is that still forbidden?

 

[MsMarple]

I was gone all day and came home to this article. I don't know if the woman quoted actually identified Crews as the woman focused on her baby but if it is then it's a chilling report. It also would point to Crews wanting a baby:

FARGO—The family hadn't even sat down at their table when the woman across the restaurant stood up from her meal and made a beeline to the baby girl with big brown eyes, dark skin and dark hair.

Roxane Cartwright and her husband Tim had finalized the adoption of their Pacific Islander infant the day before. The woman approached, trembling, saying repeatedly, "She's exactly what I want," while motioning that she wanted to hold the baby.

"Her eyes were huge, she was fixated on my daughter," Cartwright said.

She's virtually 100 percent certain the woman she encountered that day was Brooke Crews.

http://www.wday.com/news/4319140-sh...recalls-bizarre-encounter-woman-accused-fargo

More at the link. Now I'm going back to catch up on the thread.

 

[citigirl]

This^^^^^ is why the baby is in protective custody. The guy is nuts and the baby's safety comes first!

This guy is the killer, not the father.

 

[MsMarple]

LE has not revealed what was found on the farmstead yet.

Approx distance is 6 or 7 miles: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/46....f3a9d02db05999!2m2!1d-96.7910185!2d46.9120578

That's what I got too. So, if Savanna left her apartment at 1:24 (per msm but do we really know it was her texting?) and the downstairs neighbors heard noises from the upstairs bathroom around 1:30 or 2 then it's possible WH and BLC had time to drive the approx. 7 miles (about a 12 minute drive) to the abandoned house. It would be tight but it's doable.

I initially thought they took the baby elsewhere - the abandoned house - but now I'm wondering if evidence found there was mainly tire tracks and possibly more discarded items. I thought for sure LE would have used Luminol in the bathroom until I learned that the first 2 searches were visual only by consent. I'm not clear on the third search as I've read both that the third was also visual and read elsewhere that it was by a warrant.

And as for the method they used to steal the baby, from the cases of fetal abduction I've read so far all the babies were cut out of the mother with no regard to meds or anesthesia. I'm sorry to even print that but realistically IMO they felt zero concern for Savanna. :tears:

 

[nancydrew71]

Thanks. Do you happen to have a link to the article you're talking about? tia

I wish I did. I read this in one of the numerous articles on this case and that would be either FOX, CBS, Yahoo, etc. They interviewed this tenant and that's what he/she told them. They did not give a name of that person. That was the information this person offered.

 

[MsMarple]

I wish I did. I read this in one of the numerous articles on this case and that would be either FOX, CBS, Yahoo, etc. They interviewed this tenant and that's what he/she told them. They did not give a name of that person. That was the information this person offered.

Here you go nancydrew71:

A resident of the building, Christipher Miranda, said he heard noises in the bathroom above his apartment Saturday afternoon.

He said he heard banging sounds in the bathtub in the third-floor apartment above him about 1:30 p.m. or 2 p.m. and that the sounds lasted for 15 to 20 minutes. He said he could then hear the shower running.

http://www.twincities.com/2017/08/24/newborn-found-2-questioned-in-fargo-womans-disappearance/

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

Could using a breast pump induce labor?

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Yes, nipple stimulation can start labor.

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[Traymar]

I am so so sorry, Savanna. May you live forever in the laughter of your baby girl, in the goodness of the people who searched for you and mourned when you were found, and most of all in the memories and stories of the people who loved you. Peace to you all.

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[racingislife9697]

http://www.inforum.com/news/4319114-mcfeely-string-em-not-so-fast-former-federal-prosecutor-says
Interesting ...


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[cvaldez1975]

Only if it's without parole.

I just read yesterday about how many killers get out after a decade or so because of "good behaviour" - only to kill again. These two should never be out again.

That can happen in a case of manslaughter. In my state anyways if it's a violent felony they must do 80% of their time if they have a possibility of parole. Particularly heinous crimes get denied over and over. Charles Manson gets parole hearings and always gets denied.


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