ND - Several bodies found at Mandan business, 1 April 2019 *Arrest* #2

[LadyL]

what is the difference between a mobile home and an RV?

 

[LietKynes]

what is the difference between a mobile home and an RV?

Mobile homes can be moved , but are usually left stationary after the purchaser places it on their land. If renting ot sometimes buying in an established park -- the home stays on a permanent basis.

An (RV) recreational vehicle is used for camping and the owner parks it somewhere on their land. If renting in a park-- you might pay a fee to store it on the trailer parks' property.

 

[MeadowMuffin]

Yall want to hear something really strange ? Wal-Mart only sells handguns in Alaska, no other stores in the USA.....google it........Something is weird here....moo

Could it be possible that CI did a "Ship to Store"?

 

[NumbersGal0906]

Could it be possible that CI did a "Ship to Store"?

No, you cannot purchase a handgun online from Walmart & have it shipped to the store of your choosing. The gun absolutely did not come from Walmart unless he went to Alaska and bought it.

 

[airportwoman]

what is the difference between a mobile home and an RV?

In the U.S., a mobile home is called that because the whole building can be moved on a truck and placed on a foundation or pad, where it is connected to various city utilities, and people generally live in it full-time. An RV (recreational vehicle) is not usually lived in, and it has wheels and is often not connected to all utilities; it may be plugged into electricity but they are usually heated with propane (and their appliances may also be run with it) and the water supply is kept in tanks, as is the waste water.

 

[mommylovespreston2007]

Hi there! New to the site. I can see I'm not the only one monitoring this story. Could it simply just be that this guy was looney, had recently stopped taking his meds, and developed some intense paranoia or "voices" that lead to the event? I'm reminded of a line I've heard, "when hearing hoof beats, don't think zebras." In other words, sometimes it is the "simple" answer...the guy is just plain crazy without medication. No offense intended

 

[tmar]

Hi there! New to the site. I can see I'm not the only one monitoring this story. Could it simply just be that this guy was looney, had recently stopped taking his meds, and developed some intense paranoia or "voices" that lead to the event? I'm reminded of a line I've heard, "when hearing hoof beats, don't think zebras." In other words, sometimes it is the "simple" answer...the guy is just plain crazy without medication. No offense intended

Welcome here, with your first post.
Definitely, if CI was on Medication, and suddenly stopped, he may have had a massive reaction.
We have heard of others, not taking their medication, and causing great havoc.
MOO.

 

[Inthedetails]

Hi there! New to the site. I can see I'm not the only one monitoring this story. Could it simply just be that this guy was looney, had recently stopped taking his meds, and developed some intense paranoia or "voices" that lead to the event? I'm reminded of a line I've heard, "when hearing hoof beats, don't think zebras." In other words, sometimes it is the "simple" answer...the guy is just plain crazy without medication. No offense intended

I think it's possible, but still WHY that particular business at that particular time of day?

It does not seem random like shooting up customers in a shopping mall, but seems deliberate (and LE said it was targeted, which implies a motive or at least a plan). So even if "voices" or something along those lines lead to the event, I think there is some info to be learned on why this location, why these particular people.

I'm hopeful we'll learn the motive, even if it likely will not make sense.

Welcome to WSers! You're certainly not the only one monitoring the case - glad you found us.

jmo

 

[LadyL]

I think he is an injustice collector and feels his actions were justified.

 

[Inthedetails]

I think he is an injustice collector and feels his actions were justified.

But what were the injustices against RJR that he collected?

jmo

 

[ilovechili]

I think it's possible, but still WHY that particular business at that particular time of day?

It does not seem random like shooting up customers in a shopping mall, but seems deliberate (and LE said it was targeted, which implies a motive or at least a plan). So even if "voices" or something along those lines lead to the event, I think there is some info to be learned on why this location, why these particular people.

I'm hopeful we'll learn the motive, even if it likely will not make sense.

Welcome to WSers! You're certainly not the only one monitoring the case - glad you found us.

jmo

There is a thought to that though. Whether prescription meds or illicit drugs, they can certainly produce a paranoia, a feeling of being watched, etc. Did he get it in his head the "property managers" were watching him?

I agree though that there was planning here, driving, etc. He changed an appointment and so forth so that may not fit.

And yet, it fits as well as any scenario I have thought of--it does seem to relate to RJR being the management team of the property he resided on, some connection to that seems likely.

He lived there, he has been called an odd duck, they were the property managers... Drugs? Maybe they knew of some type of illegal activity of his or a neighbor alerted them about something? Resulting in an eviction notice? Or he worried such a thing was going on?

Just thoughts.

 

[LadyL]

But what were the injustices against RJR that he collected?

jmo

I speculate it's about money. They were owed some. He had none. IMO

 

[ilovechili]

I speculate it's about money. They were owed some. He had none. IMO

You know, I come back to that too. Money and/or eviction is the simplest explanation. Maybe even he had asked and they had give him some time, he asked again and they said no more or it simply was enough of a total and they said pay up, or move.

One never knows.

Killing them does not eliminate the problem but most criminals never seem to consider that.

On the other hand I guess it did, he has a new roof over his head and 3 meals.

 

[PrairieWind]

I think it's possible, but still WHY that particular business at that particular time of day?

It does not seem random like shooting up customers in a shopping mall, but seems deliberate (and LE said it was targeted, which implies a motive or at least a plan). So even if "voices" or something along those lines lead to the event, I think there is some info to be learned on why this location, why these particular people.

I'm hopeful we'll learn the motive, even if it likely will not make sense.

Welcome to WSers! You're certainly not the only one monitoring the case - glad you found us.

jmo

I think there is a specific reason. The police even at one point said it was targeted and I think at first they said the business was targeted. So I think the reason is related to the business specifically. But since the company does quite a few things that doesn't narrow it down much. We have been thinking about his current living arrangements etc, but maybe it was a grudge he had been carrying for a while, some dispute that occurred years ago.

 

[Inthedetails]

I think there is a specific reason. The police even at one point said it was targeted and I think at first they said the business was targeted. So I think the reason is related to the business specifically. But since the company does quite a few things that doesn't narrow it down much. We have been thinking about his current living arrangements etc, but maybe it was a grudge he had been carrying for a while, some dispute that occurred years ago.

For all we know, it could be something unrelated to the business - maybe they are on the same bowling league and there was a dispute with a score. I'm not suggesting that is actually the case, but that perhaps it's something we're not even considering.

What did this guy do besides be a chiropractor. Hobbies? Clubs? Church? Anything?

jmo

 

[dansbia]

I think he is an injustice collector and feels his actions were justified.

I think this too. What if the Injustice wasn't towards him? But towards someone he cared about? I know this is far out there. But what if he felt he was defending the defenseless and the the offense wasn't related to the business but one of the victims? That might explain why he seemed so calm at the hearing, thinking he's a hero for defending someone else, in his eyes, but he would either think the public would think him a hero too or he felt the Injustice was so bad that he was willing to give up his freedom and way of life for it?

All moo and speculation

 

[meanmaryjean]

One thing we've not heard is ANYthing from family and friends. A comment from a neighbor with the usual 'never would have guessed it'- but no one in the media seems to have dug up a single friend / colleague / family member for a comment, one way or the other.

 

[Inthedetails]

One thing we've not heard is ANYthing from family and friends. A comment from a neighbor with the usual 'never would have guessed it'- but no one in the media seems to have dug up a single friend / colleague / family member for a comment, one way or the other.

Good point. And that does give some weight, imo, to injustice collector - if he didn't have people in his life to offer perspective to the things that made him angry, he perhaps sat at home and stewed and stewed over injustices. Maybe he didn't have anyone to blow off steam with in sports or someone to say, "Hey, that's a bummer but let it go, man." YKWIM?

jmo

 

[PrairieWind]

Good point. And that does give some weight, imo, to injustice collector - if he didn't have people in his life to offer perspective to the things that made him angry, he perhaps sat at home and stewed and stewed over injustices. Maybe he didn't have anyone to blow off steam with in sports or someone to say, "Hey, that's a bummer but let it go, man." YKWIM?

jmo

Injustice collectors don't usually have a lot friends for sure. So if this guy did have some close friends, they seem to be keeping their heads down (can't blame them." It would help to know more about this guy.

 

[Rocco]

Preliminary hearing scheduled for man accused of murdering 4 people in Mandan

May 13th

Records, as of Friday April 12, say Isaak doesn't have an attorney or public defender. During his initial appearance he appeared in court with counsel.

The prelim is scheduled for 9 a.m. with Judge Gail Hagerty.