NE NE - Chance Englebert, 25, Gering, 6 July 2019 (new father) #2

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'Early this morning, our family was contacted by Law Enforcement officials in Scottsbluff County. We were informed of a discovery that may be related to the disappearance of Chance,' the Help Find Chance Englebert group on Facebook said.

'At this critical juncture, we need to emphasize that there is no positive identification or additional evidence to confirm that the individual is Chance.'
 
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Authorities: Items belonging to Chance Englebert found with skeletal remains in Nebraska

NORTH PLATTE, Neb. (KNOP) - The Gering Police Department and multiple other agencies continue to investigate skeletal remains located Friday on the Scotts Bluff National Monument property.

The Scotts Bluff County Attorney’s Office said Thursday that Chance Englebert’s family confirmed the belongings found during searches were his. Englebert, a Wyoming man, went missing on July 6, 2019.

RIP.

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JMVHO.
 
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Glad he’s been found, sad that it’s been 6 years.
 
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Using Google Earth's measure feature, the trail from the top paved parking lot to the North Overlook appears to be about 1200' (roughly four football fields).

That'd be a long way to carry a big guy. Not sure it could be done even by three or four people.

Jmo
 
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Using Google Earth's measure feature, the trail from the top paved parking lot to the North Overlook appears to be about 1200' (roughly four football fields).

That'd be a long way to carry a big guy. Not sure it could be done even by three or four people.

Jmo
Agreed, it does seem a very unlikely task to carry out. I have wondered about any flash flooding and I'm still unclear on if that would even be possible for flood waters to carry him there. If that happened, I would think there will be tell-tale signs that he got caught in a flood. On the other side of the argument as far as being placed there, it might be easier to place someone's remains there after some time has passed. I have long felt he had not run away and stayed away. Now we know that he had not. I also have long felt that his disappearance was due to foul play and hopefully the forensics will tell us whether this was a horribly tragic death by misadventure, or due to foul play.

Just to clarify, I'm not choosing an option here to argue. This phase is for the investigators to sort out and now we wait for their official reports. I'm just feeling for his family as they enter a new and different phase of grief. I pray they can find the peace they are seeking.
 
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The wife said that Chance had no fight or argument with her. It seems you would be shocked at how many people gave info saying they knew things about Chances disappearance and even were involved but it ended up a lie. It happens.
But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t mad at her. I mean, according to her, he wouldn’t even wait for her to get their things from the house - he got out and walked away, which seems like he was having some issue with her in that moment or he would’ve waited in the car to leave with her. Even if they had no fight, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t annoyed with her because he was maybe irrationally drunk. He could very well have said to the clerk that he had a fight with his wife even though it wasn’t completely accurate.
 
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But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t mad at her. I mean, according to her, he wouldn’t even wait for her to get their things from the house - he got out and walked away, which seems like he was having some issue with her in that moment or he would’ve waited in the car to leave with her. Even if they had no fight, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t annoyed with her because he was maybe irrationally drunk. He could very well have said to the clerk that he had a fight with his wife even though it wasn’t completely accurate.
Keep in mind, that is all just according to her. We have no way to verify if that is true or not. Almost everything we have been told about what happened that day is just according to her and her family. I'm not saying it isn't believable, but it isn't verified either as far as I know.
 
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But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t mad at her. I mean, according to her, he wouldn’t even wait for her to get their things from the house - he got out and walked away, which seems like he was having some issue with her in that moment or he would’ve waited in the car to leave with her. Even if they had no fight, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t annoyed with her because he was maybe irrationally drunk. He could very well have said to the clerk that he had a fight with his wife even though it wasn’t completely accurate.
This clerk said a lot that was not accurate and most likely heard it on podcasts or read it. I guess where you need to go now is if you beleive this clerk, figure out if anything he said helps you understand how Chance lost his life. Otherwise this argument is kind of silly.
 
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This clerk said a lot that was not accurate and most likely heard it on podcasts or read it. I guess where you need to go now is if you beleive this clerk, figure out if anything he said helps you understand how Chance lost his life. Otherwise this argument is kind of silly.
What did the clerk say that wasn't accurate? I am trying to catch up on some of this.
 
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This clerk said a lot that was not accurate and most likely heard it on podcasts or read it. I guess where you need to go now is if you beleive this clerk, figure out if anything he said helps you understand how Chance lost his life. Otherwise this argument is kind of silly.
Please list or link the parts that the clerk said that was inaccurate. I have never seen that outlined in any publication or LE statement. I would love to see the list. Maybe it would help us here to understand it better if it were available to read.
I'm earnestly, also, trying to understand how a clerk is "inaccurate" about telling a story of an experience he/she supposedly had while working in a convenience store one night. Unless you were also in the store and witnessed this interaction or have seen video footage, how on earth could anyone know he/she was giving an inaccurate story?
 
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Please list or link the parts that the clerk said that was inaccurate. I have never seen that outlined in any publication or LE statement. I would love to see the list. Maybe it would help us here to understand it better if it were available to read.
I'm earnestly, also, trying to understand how a clerk is "inaccurate" about telling a story of an experience he/she supposedly had while working in a convenience store one night. Unless you were also in the store and witnessed this interaction or have seen video footage, how on earth could anyone know he/she was giving an inaccurate story?
Listen to the Vanished Podcast where Baylee Englebert interviewed and explained all that happened the day and evening of July 6th 2019. You could also listen to the interview Baylee E did with Salty3 crew or Salty Pancakes on Rumble. Baylee's statements do not match with what this clerk says the man he thought was Chance said to him about why he was out walking and in his store. Baylee said she does not think this was Chance in this convenience store in her interview on Rumble. Also I messaged Detective McBride about this and he told me it could not be confirmed Chance was in Big Bats when this clerk says he was in the store. I have other reasons but I guess I can not list them because it has not been out to the public. You can think what you want about this clerk and if he is telling the truth, I myself have many reasons to not believe this was Chance in this convenience store. This sighting could not be confirmed so why are you arguing with me about this? There is not security video showing Chance Englebert was in Big Bats the night he disappeared. There is nothing to prove Chance was in this convenience store.
 
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The dog walker (KM) that took the original photos of recovery of the remains has posted 3D maps on google earth, 6 images to scroll through of where the remains were found. Hoping it's ok to share this here!
 
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But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t mad at her. I mean, according to her, he wouldn’t even wait for her to get their things from the house - he got out and walked away, which seems like he was having some issue with her in that moment or he would’ve waited in the car to leave with her. Even if they had no fight, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t annoyed with her because he was maybe irrationally drunk. He could very well have said to the clerk that he had a fight with his wife even though it wasn’t completely accurate.
I don't understand why we are discussing this. If Chance being in this convenience store helps you in figuring out why he is missing than use this info.
 
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What is important now is to wait on the test results of the skeletal remains found by the Monuments base. If this is Chance there is no way to know when he went to this Monument. He could have gone there well after this storm was over and also entered on another side other than where he was found if this is Chance. Somebody could have placed his body in this location. The testing should give them more info and hopefully solve this case or give us more to go on for this discussion. I have decided to wait for more information from the testing of these skeletal remains that were found.
 

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