GUILTY NE - Four killed in Omaha crime spree, Nikko Jenkins charged, Aug 2013

[LadyL]

have they stated what condition the car was in?

I can see someone bumping her rear-end or cutting her off suddenly to get her to pull over at the intersection

 

[Snick1946]

have they stated what condition the car was in?

I can see someone bumping her rear-end or cutting her off suddenly to get her to pull over at the intersection

About the only mention of any damage or of anything being out of place was the smoke damage to the front seat area when someone made an attempt to start a fire then apparently went off and left it to burn out in the seat. The windows were fogged over from the smoke but the car apparently would have been drivable.

I an trying to keep an open mind here, but the whole thing is just not adding up to me. Like I said before, it looks like someone wanted this to look like a carjacking when it really could have been a hit.

 

[shimmer29]

If LE knew who she was why wouldn't they have called her husband??? If she left work at 1:45 in the morning and he left to find her at 6:15 that would be five hours without calling her husband?

Excellent question. Why wouldn't they have called her husband, even though they knew her identity? Why would LE be a block from his/her home when he left the home? That tells me that LE was watching, watching the house. To see who came and went. To gather surveillance/evidence. They knew who he was, saw him leave the house and stopped him. Remember, he is the one who said he was stopped by police a block from home. He also said that he knew when he saw them that she was dead.

Snick, I agree with you -- I think this was set up to look like a carjacking, and it was really something very different.

 

[shimmer29]

From the horse's mouth:

http://www.ketv.com/news/local-news...ong/-/9674510/21567622/-/fnojv4z/-/index.html

Unusual indeed.

 

[LambChop]

The road is totally blocked off. He said he drove down the block and run into LE. We can see from the video that the road is completely blocked because that is where her body was found in the middle of the road. He did say in an interview she was almost home. Not sure why that would seem unusual??? Not sure how they could be watching him when they did not know who she was. You can see in the video a relative walking up to LE and falling into their arms.

 

[shimmer29]

Andrea's home was about a mile to a mile and a half away from the crime scene. The husband didn't run into LE or a police road block at the crime scene. He ran into police a block from THE HOME. LE was parked a block from his home for a reason.

The husband said in a news article that he called Andrea's mother when he saw on the news that a woman's body was found dead at 168th & Fort. He said that he called Andrea's mother and said "That's her, that's her!" and that he was going out to look for Andrea. That is Andrea's mother seen on the video running to the scene.

Actually, now that I think about it, there is a bit of a conflicting story here -- he said at first that he awoke at 4, realized she wasn't home but then apparently fell back asleep? He again awoke at 6, realized she still wasn't home, turned on the news (huh?), saw the reports of a woman's body found, woke the 13-yo son to stay with the little ones and went out to look for Andrea.

In another report, he says he called Andrea's mother after seeing the news report of a body found and said "That's her, that's her."

I don't know about you, but that IS unusual to me.

 

[Snick1946]

Andrea's home was about a mile to a mile and a half away from the crime scene. The husband didn't run into LE or a police road block at the crime scene. He ran into police a block from THE HOME. LE was parked a block from his home for a reason.

The husband said in a news article that he called Andrea's mother when he saw on the news that a woman's body was found dead at 168th & Fort. He said that he called Andrea's mother and said "That's her, that's her!" and that he was going out to look for Andrea. That is Andrea's mother seen on the video running to the scene.

Actually, now that I think about it, there is a bit of a conflicting story here -- he said at first that he awoke at 4, realized she wasn't home but then apparently fell back asleep? He again awoke at 6, realized she still wasn't home, turned on the news (huh?), saw the reports of a woman's body found, woke the 13-yo son to stay with the little ones and went out to look for Andrea.

In another report, he says he called Andrea's mother after seeing the news report of a body found and said "That's her, that's her."

I don't know about you, but that IS unusual to me.

If this thing goes the way I fear it will there are going to be shock waves in Omaha. I agree- you wake up at 4 see your spouse isn't home then..go back to sleep? What the heck? I'd be willing to bet that LE is digging into the husband- especially their finances- big time. Next week could be interesting around here..

 

[colette]

“We are not sure when she came into contact with her killer or killers,” Chief Deputy Tom Wheeler said. “It could have been at 168th and Fort, or it could have been earlier.”

Also saying they believe it was random.

Talking about evidence at crime scene and in her car. Most likely DNA because they talked about crime lab takes time but won't say what evidence they have.

The husband may have thought Andrea went out for breakfast after the bar closed. I'm sure he didn't think the worst at first. If he was involved I doubt LE would be saying it was a random crime. I'm telling you I think she scratched the heck out of someone and they had obvious tissue under her nails.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20130823/NEWS/130829474

 

[LambChop]

If this thing goes the way I fear it will there are going to be shock waves in Omaha. I agree- you wake up at 4 see your spouse isn't home then..go back to sleep? What the heck? I'd be willing to bet that LE is digging into the husband- especially their finances- big time. Next week could be interesting around here..

Her normal work hours for closing were 3am. If he woke at 4am it may have caused some concern but if she were asked to cash out and close up the bar it may not have been unusual for her not to be home yet. LE does not hold up notifying the family for 4 hours when they know the identity of the victim, nor would they have "staked" out the victim's home for that amount of time. It could be her purse was in the car which they did not find until around 6am. jmo

 

[shimmer29]

Her normal work hours for closing were 3am. If he woke at 4am it may have caused some concern but if she were asked to cash out and close up the bar it may not have been unusual for her not to be home yet. LE does not hold up notifying the family for 4 hours when they know the identity of the victim, nor would they have "staked" out the victim's home for that amount of time. It could be her purse was in the car which they did not find until around 6am. jmo

Is that true -- is it really all that unusual for LE to not notify the family for four hours? I have no LE background, and I am wondering. I have watched enough 48 Hours (which of course does not make me an expert by any stretch - I admit I am totally an amateur here), and you often see quite a delay, many many hours, between victim ID and family notification. While I have no LE background, I do have master's level experience in criminology. And the statistics for this type of crime, involving this type of victim, in this geographical area, strongly point away from the "random" theory. And I mean STRONGLY.

If the hubby was "pulled over" by police "just down the street" a block away from his home after he left the house around 6 to look for Andrea (remember those are his words, not mine -- and he said those words while standing in his own front yard and pointing to the end of his own block), it cannot be coincidence that the police where there at 6 in the morning if they didn't know who the victim was. There is no question that they knew who Andrea was when they "pulled over" the hubby a block from his home.

If her purse was in the car, they did not find the car until 6:30 that evening. Her name and photograph were already all over the news long before the car was found, and the husband had already given interviews to every news station in town long before the car was found. She was ID'ed quickly, very quickly. How is someone ID'ed quickly, if they are lying in a street and his/her car is gone? They have ID on them, or ID is lying nearby.

Those are my thoughts.

 

[LambChop]

It is against TOS to sleuth family members without them being identified as a suspect or POI.

There was no car at the sight and if she had ID they would have notified the family. It is SOP. LE is saying it appears random and they would know. Start at that point.

 

[Snick1946]

I find myself wishing this case hadn't landed in the lap of the county Sheriff's department and not with Omaha Police. I have had a couple of interactions with the county folks and was unimpressed with the degree of interest they seemed to take in investigating some thefts I'd reported. I know this is not on the same level but I feel they may be understaffed and I am thus far not impressed by Sheriff Dunning. He is a good LE officer but seems lacking in PR skills. I think we can be sure whoever is looking into this will look everywhere for an answer, I just think OPD would have more resources to draw on..

 

[SuziQ]

Visitation Sunday For Homicide Victim
http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Visitation-Sunday-For-Homicide-Victim-221002481.html

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Looking for updates but can't find a thing.....

 

[norest4thewicked]

My daughter, her husband and my grandson live only 2 blocks from where this occurred. She and I had a long discussion about it this afternoon and she had some interesting "tidbits" to add that I thought might be good to bring to light here for discussion sake. I didn't read all of the first 2 pages, so don't know how much has been mentioned.

* The intersection is a 4-way-stop and in a fairly rural area. At that time of the morning, there would have been absolutely no traffic. A couple of miles down the road and you would be completely out in the country. Why would the "hijackers" drive all the way back toward town to abandon the vehicle unless you wanted it to look like something it wasn't?

* There was another vehicle involved, so why would someone need to "hijack" another vehicle? They already had one vehicle.

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* There was a Lil Wayne concert that night downtown. This area is about 30 minutes from downtown, but I found that part a bit interesting.

* Unrelated to this case, but she told me that the TV show, 48 hours, wanted to film in Omaha because there were so many murders there per capita, but that they couldn't (or wouldn't) because they solve so few of their crimes. (This wasn't Omaha PD, but rather Douglas County Sheriff's Department).

I sure hope that this is solved soon and doesn't turn into another of their unsolved cases.

 

[norest4thewicked]

LambChop - I didn't say what any of the specific rumors were. I just said that there ARE rumors. I'm confused....

 

[colette]

* The intersection is a 4-way-stop and in a fairly rural area. At that time of the morning, there would have been absolutely no traffic. A couple of miles down the road and you would be completely out in the country. Why would the "hijackers" drive all the way back toward town to abandon the vehicle unless you wanted it to look like something it wasn't?

* There was another vehicle involved, so why would someone need to "hijack" another vehicle? They already had one vehicle.

Maybe they weren't interested in her vehicle but in assaulting Andrea. Maybe they were taking her out in the country, she knew it and tried to escape since the car slowed or stopped at the 4 way intersection.

 

[windstorm]

Anymore news on the possibility of two killers that a news station tweeted about? My hubby and I used to own a bar - it is a very scary thing to be the only closing & locking up in the wee hours of the morning.

Maybe she stopped at a convenience store for Tylenol for the child with a fever and that's where she was followed/abducted. Any locals know if there is a convenience store near that intersection that would be on her way home?

 

[norest4thewicked]

Maybe they weren't interested in her vehicle but in assaulting Andrea. Maybe they were taking her out in the country, she knew it and tried to escape since the car slowed or stopped at the 4 way intersection.

This happened only a few blocks from her home, so she had already driven almost all the way home. The intersection actually is almost out in the country. If they were interested in just assaulting her, why? WHO would be interested in just killing her? That's my question.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I'm seriously wondering if this was some sort of gang initiation. The way it went down, it seems plausible. This area of Omaha is the most expensive area of town with little crime. What better place for a gang initiation than to kill someone in this upper class neighborhood, throw them into the middle of the street and dump their car in a high crime area and jump in with the rest of the gang who has the other vehicle? This whole thing is pretty terrifying!