GUILTY NE - Juliette Geurts, 2, beaten to death, Gering, 11 July 2008

[Bree0372]

I just watched Inside Edition and I'm typing this with tears streaming down my face. I was so angry listening to the mom and her former bf. When they cut to the vigil and played Amazing Grace, I lost it. :tears:

I hope and pray that the media will keep this case in the spotlight. Juliette was an innocent little girl whose life was cut way too short at the hands of a monster.

My opinion of the 3:

Dustin - All of the mug shots they showed...WOW! He looks so different in those. He has one heck of a temper (or so it appeared) and a rather long rap sheet, apparently. IMHO - Suspect #1

Charyse (Mom) - I want to like her, and feel sympathy for her, but I can't! :furious: What kind of "mother" claims she took a sleeping pill (and I don't believe she did) upon her return home from the ER in which her daughter (now deceased) had a seizure? A real mother wouldn't have! IMHO - Suspect #2

Brandon - I'm not sure he was involved, but it sickens me that he hasn't felt the need to speak with LE in the last 4 years and tell what he does know (or felt). IMHO - Possible Suspect #3 :fence:


ETA: Transcript: http://www.insideedition.com/investigative/5227-justice-for-juliettte

 

[gitana1]

HERE is Inside Edition's article:

http://www.insideedition.com/investigative/5227-justice-for-juliettte


HERE is the JVM segment:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2012/10/18/exp-jvm-toddler-murder-mystery.hln


Inside Edition Airing Local Murder Case

http://www.starherald.com/news/loca...cle_698cf834-18d6-11e2-858b-0019bb2963f4.html


Zimmerman: If relevant "Inside Edition" segment will be submitted to grand jury

http://m.kneb.com/news-regional.php?more=a4a7n5dr

Holy cr@p!
The response, the comments!
People who live 60 miles from Juliette didn't know about her murder...
Can you imagine living 60 miles from Ethan Stacy and NOT hearing about his murder?

Doug Warner IS now the DA... and he wouldn't pass the case which is why they went with a grand jury.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Juliette/163622797027340?ref=ts&fref=ts

I will never understand why this case has not had more attention, Adorable child, soldier father serving our country, lack of justice. Why isn't it more compelling to people?

Maybe it's just that more people do not know about it. All I know is that a couple of you (MsFacetious and Bree!) have steadfastly worked for justice for this baby, even while working alone and crying out to a seemingly deaf country.

If it wasn't for you and Juliette's aunt, nothing would happen.

(P.S., I myself promised to get involved and never did. I'm so sorry!)

I just watched Inside Edition and I'm typing this with tears streaming down my face. I was so angry listening to the mom and her former bf. When they cut to the vigil and played Amazing Grace, I lost it. :tears:

I hope and pray that the media will keep this case in the spotlight. Juliette was an innocent little girl whose life was cut way too short at the hands of a monster.

My opinion of the 3:

Dustin - All of the mug shots they showed...WOW! He looks so different in those. He has one heck of a temper (or so it appeared) and a rather long rap sheet, apparently. IMHO - Suspect #1

Charyse (Mom) - I want to like her, and feel sympathy for her, but I can't! :furious: What kind of "mother" claims she took a sleeping pill (and I don't believe she did) upon her return home from the ER in which her daughter (now deceased) had a seizure? A real mother wouldn't have! IMHO - Suspect #2

Brandon - I'm not sure he was involved, but it sickens me that he hasn't felt the need to speak with LE in the last 4 years and tell what he does know (or felt). IMHO - Possible Suspect #3 :fence:


ETA: Transcript: http://www.insideedition.com/investigative/5227-justice-for-juliettte

I really think the boyfriend beat the baby but mom either helped or ruthlessly looked the other way.

And there is no way in he!! that the roommate was unaware of what was going on. I think he heard her or observed her being abused that night and many others. And he did nothing.

They should all be put in prison.

The mother and her family are vicious beasts and clearly she had something to do with it. Why else would they mock the people fighting for justice for her baby?

 

[MsFacetious]

I honestly could not watch Inside Edition. I recorded it though.
I was feeling okay, working on updating Juliette's video.

I updated it:

http://www.onetruemedia.com/shared?...kin_id=601&utm_source=otm&utm_medium=text_url

I couldn't ruin that by watching the people who are responsible for her death. :twocents:


There are very few cases my children are aware of and even the ones they are, I sugar coat a lot of things still.

Tonight my 8, almost 9 year old daughter woke up and saw I was working on Juliette's video.

She said "That's Juliette right, the twin that was killed?" I explained in very little detail, to refresh her memory.


My 8 year old daughter said:

"That's ridiculous. They probably all know what happened. She probably started crying and they got frustrated."

"So her Mom left her alone with a mean dude who had been to jail a bunch of times and expected her to come out of it okay?!"

"How could any Mom let somebody hurt her baby? How could anyone hurt a little kid like that?"


And my personal favorite...

"Well then, why don't they arrest that guy and keep him in jail until he spits the words out of his mouth?!"

I couldn't have said it better. :seeya:

 

[MsFacetious]

The Inside Edition story is here:
(Video from 10/19/2012)

http://www.insideedition.com/videos/818-justice-for-juliette

I still haven't watched the whole thing. But I have to say that Charyse had TEARS. That surprised me.

 

[gitana1]

The Inside Edition story is here:
(Video from 10/19/2012)

http://www.insideedition.com/videos/818-justice-for-juliette

I still haven't watched the whole thing. But I have to say that Charyse had TEARS. That surprised me.

I am not impressed. Not at all. Where have the tears been since 2008? This woman has remained silent all those years. She never fought for justice. She allowed her family to mock those who have fought for justice.

Strangers to Juliette have fought for her daughter instead of her. Strangers to Juliette shed more tears and meant it.

This woman is an actress. And she's evil.

:twocents:

 

[gitana1]

The Inside Edition story is here:
(Video from 10/19/2012)

http://www.insideedition.com/videos/818-justice-for-juliette

I still haven't watched the whole thing. But I have to say that Charyse had TEARS. That surprised me.

Thank you so much for posting that.

I wish it could have been a more comprehensive story. It was pretty short.
And how come neither JVM nor Inside Edition mentioned the twins Daddy. You know, the one serving our country when his baby was murdered?

Finally, what kind of partial custody does that woman have of Jaelyn? I thought she doesn't see her. She certainly should not.

 

[MsFacetious]

I am not impressed... I am surprised she found tears. It makes me wonder if she might have a heart?

She should have been fighting the whole time, my 8 year old even knows THAT.

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I'm not sure why people don't focus on the soldier part of this. As you have seen it is one of my top 3 points to make.

I was raised in a very patriotic house, despite little military connection. My Dad and Grandpa both cry during the Star Spangled Banner. :seeya:

The injustice of this soldier not having people fighting for his daughter, is a huge part of what drives me.

If Casey had NOT been in basic training he likely would have seen signs and Juliette wouldn't have died.

In my (blunt) opinion this case boils down to something very simple for me.

Juliette died BECAUSE Casey was serving our country, so people need to get off their @$$ and fight for his daughter. :twocents:

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I noted a few months ago that she has visitation of J... and full custody of the younger daughter A while Casey gets visitation with her.
I believe it's a typical every other weekend or something like that, I'm not sure.
If there was an ARREST then it's possible she wouldn't be able to have visitation. But there hasn't been an arrest, neglect or otherwise.

Everyone is keeping an eye on the situation, which is what is important. Any red flags will be acted on immediately.


Here is that post about visitation:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - NE - NE- Juliette - July 2008 - soldier's 2 year old murdered - no arrests - HELP!



Alexus Smother's was murdered in her home, by her mother, with her siblings as witnesses... she is awaiting trial.

Those siblings/witnesses have to go visit the mother in JAIL every other weekend. "Reconciliation within 12 months is the goal."

Here is Alexus' thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145074&page=4&highlight=alexus

 

[Bree0372]

I'm not impressed by her tears either. Even Casey Anthony mustered up a few tears, after Caylee was murdered, when it was about HER - or when she was facing a possible loss of HER freedom.

I will NEVER believe Charyse was crying for Juliette. I think she was only crying for herself. She knows if this case proceeds, her freedom is in jeopardy. I hope that Brandon will come clean and tell EVERYTHING he knows. I've never been drunk before, so I don't know what it's like to "pass out" and be oblivious to my surroundings.

I just can't get over the fact that Charyse hasn't, in the very least, been charged with child neglect and/or endangering Juliette's life. She took a sleeping pill after returning home from the ER with a sick baby???? It just doesn't add up! This was no accident. Accidents wouldn't lacerate her liver. She was beaten to death!

It's unfortunate that Juliette's dad can't take Charyse to court to win custody of the younger child. After all, I'm sure he will have custody of Jaelyn when he is out of the Army. If Charyse lost custody (but still has visitation) of Jaelyn, then what makes her fit to care for baby A?

Maybe when Dad is out of the Army, Inside Edition or Jane VM will choose to have him on their show? They could get his input on the 3 interviews (Dustin, Brandon and Charyse). Monica (Juliette's Aunt) stated during IE that her brother was serving in the Army and had done 3 overseas tours since Juliette's death. We're also a patriotic family. My husband is on active duty and has served over 18 years.

This case deserves media attention! It needs the attention in order to proceed with Justice for Juliette.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Case Archive is being updated:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Juliette%20Geurts%20%20-NE-/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ12

 

[Yellow]

What is this about the mother or someone mocking the justice for Juliette page? How horrible.

They should arrest the friend guy - he is the only one that seems troubled. Experienced LE should be able to get him to crack

 

[Bree0372]

What is this about the mother or someone mocking the justice for Juliette page? How horrible.

They should arrest the friend guy - he is the only one that seems troubled. Experienced LE should be able to get him to crack

BBM: It was posted on the FB page. Someone from the maternal family made posts making fun of the page, etc., but they were deleted before I saw them. SICK SICK SICK


Lisa from Inside Edition stated in a tweet to someone that Juliette's dad did not want to be interviewed for their story.

 

[MsFacetious]

I think Casey is so worried about affecting custody of his other girls...
I think he does not want Charyse to have anything to use against him later...
If he goes on TV and talks about the case I think he's afraid that will be used against him.
No proof, just my hunch on the situation.

 

[Camdenres]

I saw this sweet baby girl on JVM the other night. I vaguely remembered the story. Make me so sad that these horrible stories have become so "routine" that they do not forever burn a hole in our gut. What a precious little girl!

 

[MsFacetious]

It's true. There are so many we can't keep track... much less remember details or fight for all of them.

Here's another one... Alissa.

77 days was served for her torturous murder.

IN - 77 day sentence after Baby Alissa tortured, beaten to death. - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


At least we don't have evidence Juliette suffered for months from repeated beatings, broken bones and torture.

Baby Alissa did. She suffered longer than her killer served in prison.

 

[gitana1]

I'm not impressed by her tears either. Even Casey Anthony mustered up a few tears, after Caylee was murdered, when it was about HER - or when she was facing a possible loss of HER freedom.

I will NEVER believe Charyse was crying for Juliette. I think she was only crying for herself. She knows if this case proceeds, her freedom is in jeopardy. I hope that Brandon will come clean and tell EVERYTHING he knows. I've never been drunk before, so I don't know what it's like to "pass out" and be oblivious to my surroundings.

I just can't get over the fact that Charyse hasn't, in the very least, been charged with child neglect and/or endangering Juliette's life. She took a sleeping pill after returning home from the ER with a sick baby???? It just doesn't add up! This was no accident. Accidents wouldn't lacerate her liver. She was beaten to death!

It's unfortunate that Juliette's dad can't take Charyse to court to win custody of the younger child. After all, I'm sure he will have custody of Jaelyn when he is out of the Army. If Charyse lost custody (but still has visitation) of Jaelyn, then what makes her fit to care for baby A?

Maybe when Dad is out of the Army, Inside Edition or Jane VM will choose to have him on their show? They could get his input on the 3 interviews (Dustin, Brandon and Charyse). Monica (Juliette's Aunt) stated during IE that her brother was serving in the Army and had done 3 overseas tours since Juliette's death. We're also a patriotic family. My husband is on active duty and has served over 18 years.

This case deserves media attention! It needs the attention in order to proceed with Justice for Juliette.

She should have nothing but supervised visits with any child.

I am not impressed... I am surprised she found tears. It makes me wonder if she might have a heart?

She should have been fighting the whole time, my 8 year old even knows THAT.

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I'm not sure why people don't focus on the soldier part of this. As you have seen it is one of my top 3 points to make.

I was raised in a very patriotic house, despite little military connection. My Dad and Grandpa both cry during the Star Spangled Banner. :seeya:

The injustice of this soldier not having people fighting for his daughter, is a huge part of what drives me.

If Casey had NOT been in basic training he likely would have seen signs and Juliette wouldn't have died.

In my (blunt) opinion this case boils down to something very simple for me.

Juliette died BECAUSE Casey was serving our country, so people need to get off their @$$ and fight for his daughter. :twocents:

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I noted a few months ago that she has visitation of J... and full custody of the younger daughter A while Casey gets visitation with her.
I believe it's a typical every other weekend or something like that, I'm not sure.
If there was an ARREST then it's possible she wouldn't be able to have visitation. But there hasn't been an arrest, neglect or otherwise.

Everyone is keeping an eye on the situation, which is what is important. Any red flags will be acted on immediately.


Here is that post about visitation:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - NE - NE- Juliette - July 2008 - soldier's 2 year old murdered - no arrests - HELP!



Alexus Smother's was murdered in her home, by her mother, with her siblings as witnesses... she is awaiting trial.

Those siblings/witnesses have to go visit the mother in JAIL every other weekend. "Reconciliation within 12 months is the goal."

Here is Alexus' thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145074&page=4&highlight=alexus

Yeah, I saw that post way back when but it doesn;t say that mom had visits with Jaelyn, unless I'm being stupid!

That woman should have no visitation that's not supervised. None of this makes sense.

As a family law attorney, I can guarantee you that even in the absence of criminal charges, when a child is beaten to death in one parent's custody, the other parent will be awarded custody and only supervised visitation to the first parent, of any surviving children, in 99.999999% of cases.

Just look at Sky Metalwala's case or Kyron Horman's. In those cases, the other parent got sole custody of the surviving children with no visitation to the mothers (supervised was offered to one at first).

And the bodies of those precious children haven't even been found! It could be said that there is no evidence that either child was murdered (except for their absence). In this case, we know Juliette was murdered. Casey could have used the custody case for his remaining children to force answers out of the mother about Juliette's death, and to deny her custody if she failed to answer, just like the dads in the other two cases did.

I don't know what went wrong here. Perhaps it's simply that Casey was not in a position, due to his active military status, or emotional state to take both girls full time? I mean, he did get back with the mother after Juliette was murdered and conceived another child with her. Perhaps he was trying to convince himself she didn't do anything. Or perhaps he is just or was just very young and confused. Can you imagine being overseas and learning that your child had been murdered? The guilt of that may have caused him to try to convince himself that the woman he chose to marry and to have his kids, the woman he left those kids with, could not have been involved in on of their murders. I don't know.

It is a horrible tragedy. I can't imagine how he goes on. I feel that there is a special vulnerability to those serving overseas. They feel tremendous pressure and guilt about their families left behind. And they are risking their lives over there - so young and in such a precarious position. The thought that anyone would cause them added angst of any kind at such a time is galling.

Think of the horribleness of dear john letters. Some poor guy overseas gets dumped. Nothing sadder.

Except this.

When they are out there trying hard to protect us, the least that can be done for them is to keep their families safe.

Every time I see photos of Casey with that wide grin holding his kids, my heart aches. Some a hole took that away from him. I doubt he'll ever smile like that again.

ETA: My brothers, my dad and my grandpa were all military. I can easily superimpose any of their faces, especially my brothers, on Casey's face when he's holding his kids.

 

[MsFacetious]

Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my post... in the interest of not getting banned?

I said:

She does have custody of the third daughter A...

While Dad/Grandparents keep custody of Juliette's twin...

....... She has visitation rights. :thud:

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Maybe I just thought it was clear I meant visitation with the twin... since she has custody of A?
Sorry I wasn't more clear. I was SO unbelievably angry when I wrote that... I didn't want to say anything more.

And Alexus Smother's case is another example of the killer still getting visitation with the other children...
Even though they are WITNESSES to the crime itself!

Sylar Newton, is another example...they kept custody of the child witnesses until they were arrested.

In Sky and Kyron's case, the mother didn't really fight the custody order. They just kind of handed the girls over. :banghead:
When the mother WANTS visitation or custody they usually get it. :what:

 

[Ausgirl]

I just wanted to say 'bless you' to the people keeping these baby murders in the spotlight, upward in people's minds where they belong.

It takes courage to face this kind of evil head-on, every day. It gets to you, after a while.. Please, make sure you take care of yourselves emotionally, and know you have my 100% support.

 

[MsFacetious]

I just wanted to say 'bless you' to the people keeping these baby murders in the spotlight, upward in people's minds where they belong.

It takes courage to face this kind of evil head-on, every day. It gets to you, after a while.. Please, make sure you take care of yourselves emotionally, and know you have my 100% support.

Thank you Ausgirl. :seeya:

I've been told that before... "it gets to you, after a while."

Honestly... I have my moments of "HOW could someone do that to a child?" But that doesn't usually get to me.

What gets to me most of the time is "HOW can anyone LET someone GET AWAY with doing that to a child?"


I can accept that the monster who did it, is a monster. We live among monsters, I totally understand that.

But WHAT is the excuse of the DA, Prosecutor, Mothers... that LET them get away with it? That let them have custody of children?

THEY are supposed to help us get rid of the monsters, protect the kids FROM the monsters.


These girls don't even have their own MOTHERS fighting for them.

I really try NOT to think to much about the injuries they suffered beyond being able to explain it.

I just want justice. That is where my focus goes. :twocents:

 

[Bree0372]

Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my post... in the interest of not getting banned?

I said:

She does have custody of the third daughter A...

While Dad/Grandparents keep custody of Juliette's twin...

....... She has visitation rights. :thud:
(snipped)

You were clear when you said it before.

I agree with Gitana! I just don't understand why CPS (or whoever) hasn't removed Baby A from Charyse's custody? She shouldn't have custody of any child. Her visitation should be supervised. She was responsible for Jaelyn and Juliette and she failed them, especially Juliette. Her child was murdered on her watch. Sleeping pill or not (and I don't believe she took one), she had a responsibility to both of those beautiful little girls.

She shouldn't have Baby A, imho. I hope that Casey will take her to court for full custody of A. The grandparents have custody of Jaelyn based on the fact that Casey is in the military, IIRC.

Something or someone is going to have to force Charyse to tell what she knows. :moo:

 

[MsFacetious]

She wasn't even cited for neglect... how could they prove she was unfit?

Just another reason that the DA has FAILED these girls.
They didn't even remove the surviving child for FIVE DAYS after Juliette's murder.

It certainly doesn't appear they give a cr@p about these kids. Especially since they no longer live in their jurisdiction.

Or maybe I'm just getting more and more bitter.