Found Deceased NE - Tyler Goodrich, 35, left his house to go on a run, Lincoln, 3 Nov 2023

For those wondering how common this is...I have just added Tyler to this resource thread, started by @YaYa_521 and myself.
 
Not to say that searchers have done a bad job, on the contrary I am always impressed by volunteers who give their free time to help out. But I think it goes to show that different set of eyes may focus on different things, so maybe having repeat searches in the same areas it's the way to go in the future.
Definitely not! (I'm agreeing with you if that's not obvious. lol) Here's something I learned as I'm an avid garage/estate saler (buyer). If you go down an aisle and not see anything of interest, turn and come back down the aisle from the opposite/different direction. I was AMAZED at what I saw on the 2nd pass that I didn't see on the first pass.

I honestly think that same could apply here. You might not see him on the first pass, but traveling it again from a different direction you might see different things. On the ground, in the trees, wherever.

JMO
 
Heartbreaking for his family, his parents seem like wonderful people. I felt like this would be the outcome though and I'm bringing forward a post of mine from over a year ago where I talk about a case very close to me where her body was found in a tree right behind her apartment despite many searches there. Her name was Ashley Meiss. Leanne Bearden is another similar case.
I find it odd that their relationship had deteriored so much that they were discussing splitting up when they just adopted their youngest son together in April.

Also I think it's totally possible that he did harm himself and just hasn't been found yet. I can think of two cases that were both on this site of people who were missing and were later found having hung themselves in trees in areas that had been searched because searchers are looking down not up, one i know was in Kansas in the winter when trees were bare. Tyler was a marathon runner and could have run way out of the range of searches.
 
so sad, he was close to home. rest in peace. i hope Tyler’s family and friends can start to heal with some sort of closure.

imo — if this was self inflicted, i feel that Marshall was certainly scorched by the public who largely insinuated that he was responsible without any evidence to validate that rumor. Marshall went on a podcast maybe 6 months ago and he just sounded deflated and tired. i really felt for him.
Marshall is still being scorched on this thread as if it's his fault Tyler chose to end his life. I feel bad for him and those poor kids especially when he was left in a position to try to explain why their other Dad is gone without even a goodbye for over a year with no answers. Awful!!
 
Marshall is still being scorched on this thread as if it's his fault Tyler chose to end his life. I feel bad for him and those poor kids especially when he was left in a position to try to explain why their other Dad is gone without even a goodbye for over a year with no answers. Awful!!
I agree. I'm re-reading the transcript of Dateline's interview of Marshall, and in my opinion he really does come across as a spouse who's trying very hard to balance his genuine desire to find Tyler without denying the abuse he allegedly received from Tyler—while at the same time now being the sole parent of two kids. That's an extremely difficult position to be in.

After all the online speculation, I don't blame Marshall for going public about the abuse. I empathize that Tyler's family found it disrespectful because Tyler's no longer here to defend himself. But according to Marshall, he already had tried to tell them while Tyler was still alive, and nothing came of it. So I get why Marshall withdrew from Tyler's family, to the point of not participating in searches for Tyler because obviously his family would be there, choosing instead to focus on parenting his children.

I'm thankful, though, that Tyler has been found and that all his loved ones now have more answers, and I pray that this can help them all to heal.
 
That tree branch marked by LE does look very low and very much visible in the middle of the path. I wonder though if that branch was marked because it’s where Tyler was found, but not necessarily where he ended his life. I wonder if being tall and wanting privacy, he climbed much higher than that. And after nearly a year and a half and recent winter storms, that is simply where he was now found, as horrible as it is to think about. JMO

Very sad for Marshall and their children and Tyler’s friends and family though.
 
All evidence points to Tyler committing suicide so why are we still speculating that his grieving husband is lying about the events that lead to it?

I've always been of the opinion that I shouldn't judge without hearing both sides of the story. Perhaps that's my training. When people are no longer living to tell their side of the story, I believe its always unfair to judge them without evidence. Taking one's own life is not an admission of guilt. It's often a spontaneous act to end an emotionally painful situation.

No one is accusing the husband of anything. We're just refraining, in the absence of evidence, to judge someone who is no longer here to defend themselves. It's a moral and ethical choice that I always make in these situations, particularly where suicide is concerned.

Many people in our society still don't have a healthy grasp of suicide, what causes it and why its important not to judge those who resort to it. It's a bias that harms not just the deceased person, but everyone who loved them. Something to think about. JMO
 
I've always been of the opinion that I shouldn't judge without hearing both sides of the story. Perhaps that's my training. When people are no longer living to tell their side of the story, I believe its always unfair to judge them without evidence. Taking one's own life is not an admission of guilt. It's often a spontaneous act to end an emotionally painful situation.

No one is accusing the husband of anything. We're just refraining, in the absence of evidence, to judge someone who is no longer here to defend themselves. It's a moral and ethical choice that I always make in these situations, particularly where suicide is concerned.

Many people in our society still don't have a healthy grasp of suicide, what causes it and why its important not to judge those who resort to it. It's a bias that harms not just the deceased person, but everyone who loved them. Something to think about. JMO
I didn't say Tyler is guilty of anything. I don't know him. In my opinion it's disrespectful for people to repeatedly accuse his husband of lying about what happened that night now that Tyler has been found and it appears there was no foul play. He lost his husband, I'm sure he's thought plenty of the events of that night and how he could've stopped it. I don't see what he would gain by lying at this point. Something to think about. JMO
 
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I think he’d been in a bad relationship and saw no way out. His husband, according to family and at least one friend, was making false accusations against him. Tyler probably felt it would destroy his career. In these situations, people sometimes feel, at least temporarily, that their family will be better off without them. It’s not true, but it seems hopeless in that moment.

If only Tyler had felt strong enough to reach out and get some help. He must have been in a very dark place.
They do not seem to have been false accusations. Even his friend quoted said that violence has happened but that Goodrich had worked on it, and specifically stated that he had a habit of removing himself from a conflict to avoid escalating it.

The relationship had a lot of problems.
 
Looking at the NBC article


It looks as if the search was not run by professionals.

The response was immediate and huge,” Lonnie said. “Those searches continued for weeks and they’ve kind of, well, they definitely have tapered way down because nobody has an idea where to even go search anymore.”

They checked trails Tyler was known to frequent, but no luck. “Nothing. Not a shoe, not a shirt, not a phone, not a -- not anything,” Lonnie said. “Nobody has ever used his credit card or debit card or --. None of that has ever surfaced. There’s nothing.”

“We were trying to connect with law enforcement as well, just so that they knew we were doing this. You know, they were great. They came out and kind of actually showed us how to conduct a search,” Rachel said. “You know, what to do if we found any evidence.”

They also worked with the Lincoln Parks and Rec department, who helped them create a virtual map that marked off which quadrants have been searched in the parks. “When you got done searching a certain area, you could click the link and almost, like, highlight the area you had just walked, that quadrant. And what that did was that helped us show what parts had been searched and then what hadn’t been searched,” Rachel explained. “And then we shared that information with the sheriff’s office so they knew, ‘Hey, we don’t need to cover this portion of Wilderness Park because this group of 100 had just done that.’”

This probably explains a lot of how the body was missed.
 
They do not seem to have been false accusations. Even his friend quoted said that violence has happened but that Goodrich had worked on it, and specifically stated that he had a habit of removing himself from a conflict to avoid escalating it.

The relationship had a lot of problems.

I dislike dragging out this back and forth, but there doesn't seem to be any choice. If you read all of the transcript of the Dateline podcast interview with Tyler's father, he tells of a time before Tyler disappeared when the husband called Tyler's father and made the allegation of DV. Tyler's father called him and asked about it and Tyler put a friend on the phone who had been present for the alleged earlier incident with the husband. The friend said nothing happened during that conversation between Tyler and the husband.

As one of Tyler's other friends pointed out in the Dateline interview, Tyler's original DV incident was several years ago in a different relationship. Tyler had worked on that, stopped drinking, had therapy and learned to cope with those situations. She said if a conversation with his current partner/husband became contentious, Tyler would walk away, physically leave the discussion. That's what he did the night he disappeared. I strongly suggest you go back and re-read that transcript.

I don't intend to call the husband a liar. These are just two versions of the story, <modsnip>
 
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I dislike dragging out this back and forth, but there doesn't seem to be any choice. If you read all of the transcript of the Dateline podcast interview with Tyler's father, he tells of a time before Tyler disappeared when the husband called Tyler's father and made the allegation of DV. Tyler's father called him and asked about it and Tyler put a friend on the phone who had been present for the alleged earlier incident with the husband. The friend said nothing happened during that conversation between Tyler and the husband.

As one of Tyler's other friends pointed out in the Dateline interview, Tyler's original DV incident was several years ago in a different relationship. Tyler had worked on that, stopped drinking, had therapy and learned to cope with those situations. She said if a conversation with his current partner/husband became contentious, Tyler would walk away, physically leave the discussion. That's what he did the night he disappeared. I strongly suggest you go back and re-read that transcript.

I don't intend to call the husband a liar. These are just two versions of the story, <modsnip>

The alternative is that we are going to assume the husband was making things up or dramatizing things, and chose to escalate things to the point of making a call to 911 for ... Reasons?

I did read the transcript. Where, exactly, does it say that a friend witnessed an altercation? Are you talking about the recording Vogel made of their conversation?
 
All evidence points to Tyler committing suicide so why are we still speculating that his grieving husband is lying about the events that lead to it?
agreed, totally. not to pile it on - but we do have evidence and it's that Marshall truthfully divulged details of the situation before, during, and after the inciting incident. I'm not sure why some believe that detailing the facts of the case as we know them is conjecture or attacking the victim, but c'est la vie.

regardless of the context, we all agree someone very loved was lost. but two things can be true at once.
 
I don't think this one has been posted here yet. This has a video with Tyler's sisters speaking.

‘Too many questions’: Tyler Goodrich’s family desperate to learn the truth

“The thing that’s still on my mind today is the details on where Tyler was located and where he was found,” Nichelson said.

She said the family will continue pushing law enforcement to dig deeper and find out exactly what happened.

“Tyler’s phone and Tyler’s wallet still have never been found,” she said. “His shoes are now missing, and there’s too many questions now for me to feel comfortable with where we’re at.”

I wasn't aware that Tyler's phone and wallet haven't been found. His shoes are also missing. I hope LE finds out what happened to them.

ETA: Perhaps it wouldn't hurt to treat the area he was found as a crime scene, just in case. Gather evidence, take photos, etc. Local LE has labeled it a "suspicious" death.
 
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In 2015, incidentally, a man who had gone missing was found hing in a fir tree in the Calgary, Alberta.


The conifer in question was located on a front yard in a residential district.

If we are talking about Goodrich hanging himself in an environment that seem to be much less a front yard.and more a wild expanse, I can definitely believe his body could escape notice for a year or more.
 

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