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  • #121
The police would have gotten one of them to talk. If they'd been allowed to separate them and interview them THAT day.
There were some grave (no pun intended) errors by the police from the first moments, and we all know what they are, but for those here who are less familiar with the events of that morning:
Officer French (the first LE to arrive after the 911 call) failed to notice the open window or the latch preventing the wineceller door from opening. If he had, one of two things would have happened. 1. He'd have found JBR's body BEFORE her parents had handled it. OR 2. He'd have seen an empty room, and if JR was unaware of that fact and later placed her body in it, LE would have known the Rs were guilty right then and there.
Detective Arndt used poor judgement allowing JR and FW (or anyone but LE) to roam freely around an active crime scene. In was unclear who should have told the "victims' advocates" and friends to leave, but LE should have done so immediately. The fact that is was still presumed to be a kidnapping makes no difference- it was a crime scene none the less and the visitors had no business there.
A decision was made to allow the Rs to wait till the next day to be interviewed. That was a big mistake. They were allowed to leave unsearched and wearing clothes that should have been turned over to LE.
But the biggest blame lays with the DAs office. It isn't that they dropped the ball...they stole the ball and took it out of the game.

You know, I wonder if French didn't notice that wide open basement window..because it wasn't opened when he went down there. That...to me...would have been quite noticable...an OPEN WINDOW. IMO..John opened it when he went missing for hours, before he "found" the body.
 
  • #122
You know, I wonder if French didn't notice that wide open basement window..because it wasn't opened when he went down there. That...to me...would have been quite noticable...an OPEN WINDOW. IMO..John opened it when he went missing for hours, before he "found" the body.

I considered that, too. But it makes no sense for JR to have opened the window, point it out to FW and then tell him that he broke the window himself months before. Then, he closes it and admits to LE that he found it open, and DIDN'T TELL THEM.
If JR opened the window that morning, it had to be because he planned to have it appear as if that's how the "intruder" got in. So for some reason he changed his mind about that.
 
  • #123
<<Weasel is it? Got it....you stated this>>

Rat is it? got that ..... What my point is, is that whether or not you agree or disagree with Smit's theories does not justify wishing death on him or anyone else connected to this case or any other case. And as far as his BullSmit stinking up the case, maybe if Boulder PD hadn't stunk it up in the first place, JB would have justice.

How original.......:rolleyes:

That's a big Maybe there....however, I do agree that ALL law enforcement agents - which does include the District Attorney's Office even though they apparently do not know that in Boulder - shoulda, coulda, woulda that morning while John and Patsy were pulling the wool over their eyes. Smit just enabled their Victory! with his delusional Delorean ways.

Other than that - Dittoing SuperDave. Save the lecture as I've been around enough to know better than to put my hopes on a non-existing Intruder. It would have been nice though...I remember those early days when my heart was broke for those parents......right up to the moment that they sat down with CCN instead of BPD.

Have a Nice Day.
Rat!
 
  • #124
They weren't building a solid case. Smit didn't mess it up. Come on Dave. :liar:

What's up with the Liar icon, Roy?! I KNOW that you can't be addressing Dave as such......are you? Maybe it's Smit's Today Show fiasco where he reenacted the Intruder entering the basement window that you are referring to?
 
  • #125
<<Dittoing SuperDave>>

How original ..... Smit enabled their victory? Wow, he's good. How long was it before he got involved? Just wondering why the grand jury didn't see through his "BullSmit" and indict someone, anyone, for the crime. Not lecturing .. just stating facts. Dittoing ... ME

WEASEL
 
  • #126
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. :sleep:
 
  • #127
<<They weren't building a solid case. Smit didn't mess it up>>

I agree. If their case was so solid, how could anyone "mess it up"? Facts are facts, regardless of who presents them or who doesn't.
 
  • #128
<<That's a big Maybe there>>

Not really...
 
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  • #130
What's up with the Liar icon, Roy?! I KNOW that you can't be addressing Dave as such......are you? Maybe it's Smit's Today Show fiasco where he reenacted the Intruder entering the basement window that you are referring to?


I really did not know that was a liar icon. Of course I am not referring Dave as a liar, but to say that without Smit in the investigation then there would be a conviction is laughable.
 
  • #131
I really did not know that was a liar icon. Of course I am not referring Dave as a liar, but to say that without Smit in the investigation then there would be a conviction is laughable.

Thank you for clearing that up, but just what did you think that icon was for and why did you choose that one out of the many we have?

Enjoy your lonely laugh.
 
  • #132
Thank you for clearing that up, but just what did you think that icon was for and why did you choose that one out of the many we have?

Enjoy your lonely laugh.


I really don't know why I chose it River Rat. If an apology would make you feel better then consider it done. My laugh is not really not that lonely. No matter how many conspiricy theorists we have compared to me and a couple of others, the fact remains that enough evidence never existed to indict nor convict the Ramseys. They have information that is not available to this site or previous book writers.

The fact remains that they have determined that the Ramsey's are cleared and now the case has gone in a new direction. It is hard to swallow for some of you, but they know things that you don't. Trying to claim a conspiricy is all you got.
 
  • #133
No apology necessary to me.....I'm just trying to get a feel of whom I am conversing with. And not knowing that the icon you chose was an innocent gesture reminds me of the games the Ramsey SpinTeam entertains us with. Sorry if I'm wrong for the first time!

Whoever "They" are have everything necessary to file charges except for a video tape, a confession and a live Patsy Ramsey. That's the real world and not some spin from a defense camp......the "q's" don't lie - Patsy wrote the note and not out of the goodness of her heart for some strange Intruder.

I have posted a new thread with new news today that so far has been ignored here even though it is very important! I have paid my dues with chitchatting over Who Did It to the point that it bores me, so why not hop over there for some new stuff?
 
  • #134
No apology necessary to me.....I'm just trying to get a feel of whom I am conversing with. And not knowing that the icon you chose was an innocent gesture reminds me of the games the Ramsey SpinTeam entertains us with. Sorry if I'm wrong for the first time!

Whoever "They" are have everything necessary to file charges except for a video tape, a confession and a live Patsy Ramsey. That's the real world and not some spin from a defense camp......the "q's" don't lie - Patsy wrote the note and not out of the goodness of her heart for some strange Intruder.

I have posted a new thread with new news today that so far has been ignored here even though it is very important! I have paid my dues with chitchatting over Who Did It to the point that it bores me, so why not hop over there for some new stuff?



LOL Rat. I stick with the experts who have cleared everybody. Patsy did not write the note. If she did and they could have proved it, she would would have been indicted.

Is your news that you are talking about the Whites? It is nothing because they were never suspected in the first place. And also Lacy decided to publicly exonerate the Ramsey's. It was needed.
 
  • #135
LOL - Mary LacyTracey ala' John Mark Karr is your expert?!

Nuff said. Keep Moving.....Have a Nice Day. I know that I am!
 
  • #136
LOL - Mary LacyTracey ala' John Mark Karr is your expert?!

Nuff said. Keep Moving.....Have a Nice Day. I know that I am!

Good luck living in the fantasy world.
 
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  • #138
Good luck living in the fantasy world.

Dear, my world is far from being a fantasy and it was so nice meeting you but I'm afraid our time together is now over. Tah Tah!
 
  • #139
You are the one living in a fantasy world with your intruder theory.


Keep dreaming. Thats why nothing has changed in 12 years. Once they took their head out of their fanny's, they realized they had some DNA.
 
  • #140

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