New Search Warrant

[ncsu95]

I believe that the last paragraph on page 4 of the probable cause section of the warrant specifies that LE did confirm Nancy wore this all the time and during all activities to include sleeping. Not only through friends but from a review of photographs.

They have 2 pictures of her wearing it on vacation. I don't believe that confirms she wore it at all times including sleeping. Maybe she didn't feel comfortable leaving her jewelry in a hotel room.

 

[raisincharlie]

They have 2 pictures of her wearing it on vacation. I don't believe that confirms she wore it at all times including sleeping. Maybe she didn't feel comfortable leaving her jewelry in a hotel room.

Since we don't know what those pictures showed, I suspect we have no way to know the answer. However, Detective Young does use the word confirmed. He ought to know what he saw. Not sure how you conclude it was only 2 photos.

 

[ncsu95]

Since we don't know what those pictures showed, I suspect we have no way to know the answer. However, Detective Young does use the word confirmed. He ought to know what he saw. Not sure how you conclude it was only 2 photos.

You're right...he pointed out the 2 of her on a boat and in a bathing suit, and said he observed others. I'm guessing he pointed out those 2 to show times where most people would not wear a necklace. All of the pictures appear to have been from that trip, so I'm not sure how you can draw a conclusion from that. And why would BC have taken the time to remove the necklace?

 

[raisincharlie]

You're right...he pointed out the 2 of her on a boat and in a bathing suit, and said he observed others. I'm guessing he pointed out those 2 to show times where most people would not wear a necklace. All of the pictures appear to have been from that trip, so I'm not sure how you can draw a conclusion from that. And why would BC have taken the time to remove the necklace?

I didn't draw any conclusion, Detective Young wrote it. If the necklace is not broken then someone took it off, no idea who or why. If it is broken, well. As concerned as Brad was about the money spent on the necklace, I can understand he would want to keep it for value alone given his constant worry about money.

 

[Star12]

This comment has nothing to do with BC or her murder. I doubt very seriously that NC never took off her necklace. From one of the pictures, you can see that it is a loose necklace (hangs down) with a pretty thin chain. How many women sleep with these type of necklaces on? And shower with it on (like is asserted in the video)? Also, almost all of the pictures in the picture thread do not show her wearing it (one does). I know you need to establish when she got it and when those pictures were taken, but it should be easy to find pictures of her from that the time she got it until July 12th.

I do. I always have. And my chain is extremely dainty. It's dang hard to put those itty bitty chains on and off. And I seriously doubt that Nancy wanted BC to do it for her. Not that he would, twice a day, anyway. In an earlier discussion regarding this same issue we found that those pics "without" were from before she had the necklace.

 

[Maja]

I didn't draw any conclusion, Detective Young wrote it. If the necklace is not broken then someone took it off, no idea who or why. If it is broken, well. As concerned as Brad was about the money spent on the necklace, I can understand he would want to keep it for value alone given his constant worry about money.

Again, in panic mode. No matter, he doesn't get to keep the necklace or sell it. If he was not charged, seems the if he left it on NC, he would get it back anyway. Perhaps the mark on her neck was from him breaking it off, if it's found broken. Or, he has had PLENTY of time to have it repaired if he did break it.

 

[Maja]

This comment has nothing to do with BC or her murder. I doubt very seriously that NC never took off her necklace. From one of the pictures, you can see that it is a loose necklace (hangs down) with a pretty thin chain. How many women sleep with these type of necklaces on? And shower with it on (like is asserted in the video)? Also, almost all of the pictures in the picture thread do not show her wearing it (one does). I know you need to establish when she got it and when those pictures were taken, but it should be easy to find pictures of her from that the time she got it until July 12th.

Would seem to me a very expensive diamond would dangle from a pretty solid chain. I believe there were numerous photos during her last vacation as well as her last BBQ.

If I was ever found without my necklace on, you bet your bippy it should be suspect. I've worn it for over 7 years and only recently took it off for an x-ray.

I think, at the end of the day, seems it just adds to the probable mound of other evidence/eye-brow raisers.

 

[raisincharlie]

Again, in panic mode. No matter, he doesn't get to keep the necklace or sell it. If he was not charged, seems the if he left it on NC, he would get it back anyway. Perhaps the mark on her neck was from him breaking it off, if it's found broken. Or, he has had PLENTY of time to have it repaired if he did break it.

I have a tendency to think the mark on Nancy's neck may well have been made by the necklace in question.

 

[Star12]

Would seem to me a very expensive diamond would dangle from a pretty solid chain. I believe there were numerous photos during her last vacation as well as her last BBQ.

If I was ever found without my necklace on, you bet your bippy it should be suspect. I've worn it for over 7 years and only recently took it off for an x-ray.

I think, at the end of the day, seems it just adds to the probable mound of other evidence/eye-brow raisers.

Any chain can be broken, and most can be repaired. (I have sold many very expensive necklaces on very thin, dainty chains). And I doubt that BC would have had it repaired if it were broken, because that costs money

 

[Star12]

Would seem to me a very expensive diamond would dangle from a pretty solid chain. I believe there were numerous photos during her last vacation as well as her last BBQ.

If I was ever found without my necklace on, you bet your bippy it should be suspect. I've worn it for over 7 years and only recently took it off for an x-ray.

I think, at the end of the day, seems it just adds to the probable mound of other evidence/eye-brow raisers.

I have a tendency to think the mark on Nancy's neck may well have been made by the necklace in question.

Either that or he broke it while strangling her, especially if his hand/s got tangled in the chain. Could be he didn't find it until later while he was "tidying up" and put it in the drawer.

 

[ncsu95]

I do. I always have. And my chain is extremely dainty. It's dang hard to put those itty bitty chains on and off. And I seriously doubt that Nancy wanted BC to do it for her. Not that he would, twice a day, anyway. In an earlier discussion regarding this same issue we found that those pics "without" were from before she had the necklace.

Fair enough.

 

[raisincharlie]

Either that or he broke it while strangling her, especially if his hand/s got tangled in the chain. Could be he didn't find it until later while he was "tidying up" and put it in the drawer.

Star - High Rock Lake - not the same as Lake Norman right ?

Brad said Nancy went to Lake Norman in his deposition, yet in the PC section of the warrant it appears the family trip the week before her murder was actually to High Rock Lake and Hilton Head. Hmmmmm

 

[Star12]

Star - High Rock Lake - not the same as Lake Norman right ?

Brad said Nancy went to Lake Norman in his deposition, yet in the PC section of the warrant it appears the family trip the week before her murder was actually to High Rock Lake and Hilton Head. Hmmmmm

They are roughly in the same area, near Charlotte, and there was testimony that the Rentzes left from the Charlotte airport.

 

[raisincharlie]

They are roughly in the same area, near Charlotte, and there was testimony that the Rentzes left from the Charlotte airport.

Guess I am wondering why he is now whinning about missing his kids when the week before Nancy's murder, he obviously didn't even know where they were, only an area and nothing about Hilton Head.

 

[CyberPro]

Would seem to me a very expensive diamond would dangle from a pretty solid chain. I believe there were numerous photos during her last vacation as well as her last BBQ.

If I was ever found without my necklace on, you bet your bippy it should be suspect. I've worn it for over 7 years and only recently took it off for an x-ray.

I think, at the end of the day, seems it just adds to the probable mound of other evidence/eye-brow raisers.

Well, I am a guy, so this might be different, but I have a necklace that has a lot of meaning to me, and I NEVER take it off. The only times it has been off my neck in the past 18 years was when I have had surgery and could not wear it (my wife wears it for me then). I also wear my watch constantly.

I can see other than the monetary value of the necklace, if it was left on the body it would tend to rule out robbery as a motive for the attack, and if she was not sexually assaulted, it leaves nothing much in the way of a motive for a stranger to have done it.

CyberPro

 

[CyberPro]

Star - High Rock Lake - not the same as Lake Norman right ?

Brad said Nancy went to Lake Norman in his deposition, yet in the PC section of the warrant it appears the family trip the week before her murder was actually to High Rock Lake and Hilton Head. Hmmmmm

RC,

High Rock is on the Yadkin River chain and the closest town is Lexington, NC.

Lake Norman is close to Charlotte, and has much more expensive homes on it, some worth Millions.

CyberPro

 

[raisincharlie]

RC,

High Rock is on the Yadkin River chain and the closest town is Lexington, NC.

Lake Norman is close to Charlotte, and has much more expensive homes on it, some worth Millions.

CyberPro

Thanks - I checked map quest and can see the locations now. I am just a bit surprised with the Lake Norman comment after looking - general area yeah but still surprised Brad didn't know. Guess I shouldn't be.

 

[garner_nc]

I'm curious who he received an email from and what was the context of the messages.

Surely he would not have emailed someone with "I got rid of her, now we can be together. (ie.French girl)"

But the warrant says he "received". Does not say he sent emails.

 

[MoonFlwr]

Just finished reading the latest search warrant info (thanks Maja, for posting the link in the links section! )

I have probably missed a discussion about the video surveillance from Harris Teeter, so please bear with me if it's been cleared up already. It states that surveillance shows he made purchases at 2 separate times. Have those times been released? I still have confusion about this point because of the alleged 4 am (ish) purchase and then the later one/s.

TIA

 

[garner_nc]

Just finished reading the latest search warrant info (thanks Maja, for posting the link in the links section! )

I have probably missed a discussion about the video surveillance from Harris Teeter, so please bear with me if it's been cleared up already. It states that surveillance shows he made purchases at 2 separate times. Have those times been released? I still have confusion about this point because of the alleged 4 am (ish) purchase and then the later one/s.

TIA

I believe based on this last warrant it is confirmed that there were only 2 trips to HT. One at 6:20 and 6:40..or something close to those times. The 4:20am time frame was originally mentioned but based on information released to the public, that trip has yet to be confirmed. The detective on the warrant mentions only 2 trips and there is video of both trips on BC's attorneys website. Neither are at 4:20am.