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[AmarilloByAM]

I understood him to say they had been advised to shop giving her milk in a bottle. I remember this b/c I thought it was strange Katie was almost 2 and still drinking out of a bottle. My pediatrician advised we stop having my daughter drink out of a bottle at 18 months and change to a sippy cup.

 

[AmarilloByAM]

Has it ever been clear if Nancy always did Brad's laundry or as things were really deteriorating at the end were they doing their own laundry. How do things really work when a marriage is headed to divorce (with this outcome an exception)? Do you despise each other so much you don't even want to touch each others dirty laundry not knowing where it has been or do things continue on as normal with both the man and the wife doing their "normal" household chores until the day the divorce is final? I have never been in that sitation is why I ask.

 

[momto3kids]

I understood him to say they had been advised to shop giving her milk in a bottle. I remember this b/c I thought it was strange Katie was almost 2 and still drinking out of a bottle. My pediatrician advised we stop having my daughter drink out of a bottle at 18 months and change to a sippy cup.

I went back and listened to it again, on the tape @ 17:45 he says, we've been told by our doctors and friends to try to get her off of milk, our pediatrician had told us she is getting near two and we need to get her off the bottle.

What doctors would encourage to get a child off of milk? Reduce it, yes, if they drink too much, but off?:waitasec: Does he even know what the heck he is saying at this point
Bottle I totally understand, time to go bye-bye at that age.

 

[AmarilloByAM]

I pretty much think he is just babbling words out and doesn't know what the heck he is talking about.

 

[momto3kids]

Has it ever been clear if Nancy always did Brad's laundry or as things were really deteriorating at the end were they doing their own laundry. How do things really work when a marriage is headed to divorce (with this outcome an exception)? Do you despise each other so much you don't even want to touch each others dirty laundry not knowing where it has been or do things continue on as normal with both the man and the wife doing their "normal" household chores until the day the divorce is final? I have never been in that sitation is why I ask.

Every situation is so different and there are so many variables with each marriage. Even though they were in the 'hate' mode, they still appeared to do some things together that week. Such as the BBQ. Don't ask me why if they were in the hate mode why even be seen together. It appears odd to me.

IMO it was for the kids.

 

[momto3kids]

I pretty much think he is just babbling words out and doesn't know what the heck he is talking about.

Too bad he didn't babble when he should have and called the CPD about a missing wife. Or better yet, called or stopped in the hospital he PASSED while he was out so called looking for NC. It took a bf to do it :clap:

As Det Daniels stated, inconsistencies.

 

[sunflowers]

Too bad he didn't babble when he should have and called the CPD about a missing wife. Or better yet, called or stopped in the hospital he PASSED while he was out so called looking for NC. It took a bf to do it :clap:

As Det Daniels stated, inconsistencies.

or, if he killed nancy as many of us think, too bad he didn't babble by calling 911 after nancy died, and babble about "OMG, we were fighting, etc" instead of disposing her like garbage.

 

[sunflowers]

Every situation is so different and there are so many variables with each marriage. Even though they were in the 'hate' mode, they still appeared to do some things together that week. Such as the BBQ. Don't ask me why if they were in the hate mode why even be seen together. It appears odd to me.

IMO it was for the kids.

maybe. but in the previous years, it seemed that brad worked, worked out, did his MBA, did Iron Man, and Nancy did the kid stuff. i'm not sure how much they were really together as a "family"

the other wierd thing that i've wondered about is why brad agreed to pay for the girls' private school education through 12th grade. it's unusual. lawyers are THRILLED to pull off getting a paying spouse to agree to private school. they had tons of debt, etc. alice stubbs in an excellent attorney, but it's still very unusual. not relevent here, unless brad was feeling that he was giving her everything plus some, and he was feeling it was all over-the-top, etc etc

just seems like maybe he didn't speak up about some of this stuff, and just went along with it and agreed. private school here in NC that is not religious based is $16-20,000 a year per kid starting in 6th grade, and just a bit less for elementary. this is a ton of $$ for people with financial concerns. again, not necessariy relevant, but strange to me how on earth stubbs negotiated that into their agreement.

good night everybody

 

[momto3kids]

or, if he killed nancy as many of us think, too bad he didn't babble by calling 911 after nancy died, and babble about "OMG, we were fighting, etc" instead of disposing her like garbage.

Admit it? That would take a man and not a mouse to make that call. Someone who loved their wife and immediately realized what they had just done, might have called.

But we are talking about BC who is narcissistic and most likely won't admit to it, even if his life depends on it. Ironic isn't it?

I guess it is too easy to throw a human away when they stand in the way and think you are so much smarter than the LE. They proved him wrong this time.

 

[momto3kids]

maybe. but in the previous years, it seemed that brad worked, worked out, did his MBA, did Iron Man, and Nancy did the kid stuff. i'm not sure how much they were really together as a "family"

the other wierd thing that i've wondered about is why brad agreed to pay for the girls' private school education through 12th grade. it's unusual. lawyers are THRILLED to pull off getting a paying spouse to agree to private school. they had tons of debt, etc. alice stubbs in an excellent attorney, but it's still very unusual. not relevent here, unless brad was feeling that he was giving her everything plus some, and he was feeling it was all over-the-top, etc etc

just seems like maybe he didn't speak up about some of this stuff, and just went along with it and agreed. private school here in NC that is not religious based is $16-20,000 a year per kid starting in 6th grade, and just a bit less for elementary. this is a ton of $$ for people with financial concerns. again, not necessariy relevant, but strange to me how on earth stubbs negotiated that into their agreement.

good night everybody

IIRC he never signed anything in regards to the seperation agreement, so he never signed or agreed to it. Can we trust what he says anymore?
OTOH, he was raised with high expectations as stated in the custody hearing. Maybe private school was something he classified as a must do with the girl's?

At this point it all is a guess. IMO he is such a liar, cheat and now in my eyes a murderer he won't have a say so.

 

[per_curiam]

Too bad Brad didn't attend to his anger issues. The shrink who said that BC has anger issues was dead right.

Here's an idea. Let's send BC some jail mail. How's the food, BC? Wishing you were at Harris Teeter now? Tell us how it feels when you sit your butt on the cold stainless steel can while everyone can see you doing your business? Is claustrophobia setting in? Good. Watch out. Remember that they killed Dahmer. Why did you do it BC? Your girls and everyone will know. Your bubble has been pierced.

That's my imaginary jail mail to BC.

 

[per_curiam]

Sunflowers, the divorce papers weren't finalized. Just a draft. I can see Nancy requiring that the children attend private schools through high school, just to get her squeeze out of BC. I'd probably do that too if there was money for it.

The divorce draft is what sent him reeling into his urge to kill mode, IMO. Hate mode for sure. That settlement draft would put him totally out of control of his money that he earned. Then again, the money situation was out of control already.

 

[raisincharlie]

maybe. but in the previous years, it seemed that brad worked, worked out, did his MBA, did Iron Man, and Nancy did the kid stuff. i'm not sure how much they were really together as a "family"

the other wierd thing that i've wondered about is why brad agreed to pay for the girls' private school education through 12th grade. it's unusual. lawyers are THRILLED to pull off getting a paying spouse to agree to private school. they had tons of debt, etc. alice stubbs in an excellent attorney, but it's still very unusual. not relevent here, unless brad was feeling that he was giving her everything plus some, and he was feeling it was all over-the-top, etc etc

just seems like maybe he didn't speak up about some of this stuff, and just went along with it and agreed. private school here in NC that is not religious based is $16-20,000 a year per kid starting in 6th grade, and just a bit less for elementary. this is a ton of $$ for people with financial concerns. again, not necessariy relevant, but strange to me how on earth stubbs negotiated that into their agreement.

good night everybody

Sunflowers,

I think this separation agreement was what put Brad over one edge on his journey toward murder. I find his response to it to be most telling about his character in general. None of this was set in stone, I feel the agreement was one of those deals where one asks for significantly more than what they want with the hopes of negotiating for what they need. Brad's response was to stop the move to Canada even though he no longer wanted them around. Confiscate passports for control and it motivated him to get a lawyer who advised he actually started behaving like a father.

By July I suspect the inevitable was finally slapping him in the face and he definitely was not going to lose the battle. I do hope he is adjusting to having zero control, zero money, and zero freedom now. He now has to live in the cage he tried to keep Nancy and those kids in.

 

[sunflowers]

Sunflowers, the divorce papers weren't finalized. Just a draft. I can see Nancy requiring that the children attend private schools through high school, just to get her squeeze out of BC. I'd probably do that too if there was money for it.

The divorce draft is what sent him reeling into his urge to kill mode, IMO. Hate mode for sure. That settlement draft would put him totally out of control of his money that he earned. Then again, the money situation was out of control already.

Thanks. Somehow I had forgotten that they hadn't signed it, and therefore hadn't agreed to it. Interesting.

perhaps he didn't want to agree to giving up any $$----he may have had ZERO understanding of what the NC law requires in terms of community property, alimony & child support.

 

[sunflowers]

Sunflowers,

I think this separation agreement was what put Brad over one edge on his journey toward murder. I find his response to it to be most telling about his character in general. None of this was set in stone, I feel the agreement was one of those deals where one asks for significantly more than what they want with the hopes of negotiating for what they need. Brad's response was to stop the move to Canada even though he no longer wanted them around. Confiscate passports for control and it motivated him to get a lawyer who advised he actually started behaving like a father.

By July I suspect the inevitable was finally slapping him in the face and he definitely was not going to lose the battle. I do hope he is adjusting to having zero control, zero money, and zero freedom now. He now has to live in the cage he tried to keep Nancy and those kids in.

now that i realize the separation agreement hadn't been executed, i'm also thinking the reality of what a divorce would cost him financially raised his ire considerably & made him a bit crazed with anger & rage made him more & more furious & on edge. Easier to be set off at the drop of a hat.

And something set him off, which I'm guessing JA knows about, since she immediately thought Brad had killed Nancy. Not exactly the first thought that would come to most close friends of somebody in a very difficult marital situation.

 

[hroark2112]

One day, someone should publish a study that compares the cost of a divorce vs. the cost of defending yourself against a murder charge, and add in the extra cost of defending the penalty phase when you're trying not to get the needle. Maybe that might save the lives of a few women someday.

 

[piedmont]

Has BC ever been asked what plan there was for getting NC her $300? If not, why not?

 

[ncsu95]

Okay. It would be easy to prove if she didn't since I'm sure there have been many pictures of her taken this year. I wonder when she got the necklace. Was this the one she got last October?

Apparently, it was very easy to prove using pictures provided by Nancy's friends.

http://www.kurtzandblum.com/CM/Investigation/Suspicious-Necklace.asp

 

[raisincharlie]

Apparently, it was very easy to prove using pictures provided by Nancy's friends.

http://www.kurtzandblum.com/CM/Investigation/Suspicious-Necklace.asp

What is that mess across her neck ?

This picture shows what exactly other than a poor photograph that shows some ugly mess across her neck ? This is all they could come up with - laughable at best.

 

[citygirl]

What is that mess across her neck ?

This picture shows what exactly other than a poor photograph that shows some ugly mess across her neck ? This is all they could come up with - laughable at best.

Very unflattering picture. Holding a beer bottle and looking like she's had a bit too much to drink. Didn't hubby opine that he thought she drank too much? Mixed message? It is laughable.

RC, what is your take on why they took more jewelry than the diamond pendant? Just curious. Maybe this has been discussed already and I missed it.