New Video Interviews released from SA's office 11/21 #2

[SuziQ]

Wait, CA tells the agent that KC gets alot of Irish background from her father. Isn't GA itallian and Cindy is the one who's Irish?

 

[SuziQ]

It's been said that Sociopath's tend to have seizure's that seem to appear and get worse as they enter adulthood. Also tumors can cause criminal activity in their victims.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Wait, CA tells the agent that KC gets alot of Irish background from her father. Isn't GA italian and Cindy is the one who's Irish?

LOL Who knows?! I have given up trying to figure it out at this point. They both act out of this world to me instead of Irish or Italian.

 

[SuziQ]

I'm a bit puzzled over Cindy going for counseling. It just does not seem like something she would voluntarily do. First off, she'd have to recognize there was a problem and I don't think she's capable of that. So I have to wonder if counseling was forced on her. For instance, like her employer demanded it.

ETA: I dealt with employees with similar personalities as CA. They go to counseling kicking and screaming.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm a bit puzzled or Cindy going for counseling. It just does not seem like something she would voluntarily do. First off, she'd have to recognize there was a problem and I don't think she's capable of that. So I have to wonder if counseling was forced on her. For instance, like her employer demanded it.

Good question. I can see her asking a counselor/social worker perhaps employed with her company for advice on the situation with her daughter tho. Informally, of course. Then again...since Cindy believes she is the "perfect parent", for her to turn to a counselor to reaffirm it for her might be reason for her to go.

 

[Insomnia Momma]

I really feel for GA. It seems he either really loves CA or is controlled to think that he needs her, as he is helpless. He tries so hard to hide the truth from her either out of love or because he is scared of her reaction. Because of this, CA is just completely clueless to things. Why didn't she know about FUSIAN or Casey's use of drugs and the 1000+ discriminating pictures. GA also hid a lot of the stealing that went on from CA. It seemed everybody in that family lied out of FEAR for CA's WRATH. They knew they could feed her half truths as long as the blame was elsewhere.

Also, How could CA be so mad that they didn't follow up on all the Zenaidas in the world yet also says that she knows that Zanny is just a general term for nanny and could be Amy or n e one else.
When CA breaks it will NOT be good. I hope the media catches that moment though because I think it's something we ALL are waiting for and will be relieved that she finally has seen the LIGHT.

I hope to GOD it is NOT caught by the media. This family has been through he** by their own flesh and blood. I can't imagine what CA's "come to Jesus" realization might be like. I pray it's private for her sake, her sanity is all ready gone for the most part. This, once it fully hits, will break her (hopefully not to the point of no return).

I can't imagine wishing, even on my worst enemy, that their final breaking point be so public. The idea is horrible to me. We've already seen sooo much of the dysfunction and the inner workings of their family. This is one thing I hope we don't see. None of us needs to see it IMO. I know I for sure couldn't ever say "I told you so" to anyone in their situation.

Like I said, JMHO.

 

[Pink Panther]

If they are still investigating those areas or they are going to be used in trial...YES!

Thanks for answering SS. Don't they eventually have to release that information to the defence for discovery??? When they do that, isn't it made available to the public as well?

 

[SuziQ]

Ha, CA talks about ie; Casey being there and willing to help someone in need. IMO, that doesn't show KC was emphathetic or caring. IMO, it means Casey was good at spotting an easy vulnerable target to take advantage of.

 

[Pink Panther]

Good question. I can see her asking a counselor/social worker perhaps employed with her company for advice on the situation with her daughter tho. Informally, of course. Then again...since Cindy believes she is the "perfect parent", for her to turn to a counselor to reaffirm it for her might be reason for her to go.

Another one brother Rick was telling the truth about...

 

[jennyb]

The whole seizure incident is very strange. It sounds to me as though, whatever happened, KC found a way to ensure that the hospital did not share any information with her parents. It also sounds like they, as usual, just accepted everything without ever questioning or understanding what really happened. I guess we'll find out more about this incident later. Without question, something very strange happened.

I'm thinking it could've been a bad acid trip. She tried it once and had a bad flip out. Something like that. Nothing deep or chronic.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

In my opinion, CA is not headed towards a "come to Jesus" moment, a breakdown, or whatever you care to term it as. She is not in denial. She is covering up everything as much as she can and for as long as she can in order to save the person who killed her grandchild. After she takes the stand at the trial, I want to believe they will be arresting her instead of taking her off to some insane asylum for everything she has done to derail the investigation including lying on the stand in the first bond hearing (which I expect more lies to come out during trial for Perjury charges), imo.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks for answering SS. Don't they eventually have to release that information to the defence for discovery??? When they do that, isn't it made available to the public as well?

I am still not clear on that point. I believe they can keep things out of the public eye and only privy to themselves, but not certain exactly how it works until trial.

 

[SuziQ]

Good question. I can see her asking a counselor/social worker perhaps employed with her company for advice on the situation with her daughter tho. Informally, of course. Then again...since Cindy believes she is the "perfect parent", for her to turn to a counselor to reaffirm it for her might be reason for her to go.

Soooo true. She would only do it as long as she hears what she wants. How many spouses initiate couples counseling because they think the other person needs it. Only to hear they are the problem. Lo and behold they quit the counseling they initiated.

 

[Insomnia Momma]

Good question. I can see her asking a counselor/social worker perhaps employed with her company for advice on the situation with her daughter tho. Informally, of course. Then again...since Cindy believes she is the "perfect parent", for her to turn to a counselor to reaffirm it for her might be reason for her to go.

My bold.

I think you're right with this. I've been thinking about it and I wonder if CA was getting fed up with KC's lack of parenting etc. and went trying to rationalize (and get confirmation from someone) that it wasn't because of her (CA). I wonder if she went so she could try to realize that what KC did was not her fault which would be good for her to realize, and remember NOW . I think she may have been starting to come to that realization and that was the start of wanting to get custody of Caylee? I also wonder if KC realized this prior to CA actually doing anything about it? KC realized her gravy train was about to come to a halt and then, after she was no longer useful to her, Caylee was "taken care of"? (I shuddered hard when I wrote that)

 

[jennyb]

In my opinion, CA is not headed towards a "come to Jesus" moment, a breakdown, or whatever you care to term it as. She is not in denial. She is covering up everything as much as she can and for as long as she can in order to save the person who killed her grandchild. After she takes the stand at the trial, I want to believe they will be arresting her instead of taking her off to some insane asylum for everything she has done to derail the investigation including lying on the stand in the first bond hearing (which I expect more lies to come out during trial for Perjury charges), imo.

I'm with you on that.

btw, After watching those tapes I'd say those FBI agents are incredibly mentally healthy -- I doubt in all their experience they've ever sat through anything quite like that. And lol, that one agent had to leave the room and did you notice he didn't come back? Probably just thought he was suffocating. I would not have been able to handle it.

 

[MOMto5]

I'm thinking it could've been a bad acid trip. She tried it once and had a bad flip out. Something like that. Nothing deep or chronic.

I'm not sure what to think of this grand mal seizure. FWIW, my youngest daughter suffers from a seizure disorder , unkown etiology, and has daily petit mal seizures and sporadic grand mal seizures. During a grand mal, her eyes roll back, she falls, arms and legs begin to jerk uncontrollably and froth has come from her mouth. So in that respect, JG's description was right on target. As my daughter was still in diapers when this all began, I can't say that she never lost control of her bladder, only that since she was out of diapers, she has never lost control of her bladder or vomited, which is also common. After a grand mal, she is very slow to respond, almost like slow motion. This lasts up to an hour. She is also extremely tired and sleeps for hours. However, I do know that EVERY time she has had a grand mal episode, post seizure activity shows up on her EEG, sometimes even into the next day. I can't make sense of KC's test revealing nothing at all. At the very least, I would think that if she had suffered a true grand mal, an EEG would at least show some post seizure activity. I agree with PP, I think she made sure her parents were not privy to the results. As she was over 18 at the time, the physicians would be under no obligation to provide them with this information.

 

[Insomnia Momma]

In my opinion, CA is not headed towards a "come to Jesus" moment, a breakdown, or whatever you care to term it as. She is not in denial. She is covering up everything as much as she can and for as long as she can in order to save the person who killed her grandchild. After she takes the stand at the trial, I want to believe they will be arresting her instead of taking her off to some insane asylum for everything she has done to derail the investigation including lying on the stand in the first bond hearing (which I expect more lies to come out during trial for Perjury charges), imo.

Oh I agree with you! Don't get me wrong! I just was saying IF it happened I certainly wouldn't want it to be in the spotlight. So much has already been out there that she would deserve to have this in peace.

I, like you, believe she knows EXACTLY what she is doing. I don't doubt she has grieved but at this point it is ALL about the ABC defense. I'll be seriously surprised if she isn't listed as a hostile witness and/or she commits perjury!

:blowkiss:

 

[MOMto5]

In my opinion, CA is not headed towards a "come to Jesus" moment, a breakdown, or whatever you care to term it as. She is not in denial. She is covering up everything as much as she can and for as long as she can in order to save the person who killed her grandchild. After she takes the stand at the trial, I want to believe they will be arresting her instead of taking her off to some insane asylum for everything she has done to derail the investigation including lying on the stand in the first bond hearing (which I expect more lies to come out during trial for Perjury charges), imo.

I completely agree. :clap::clap:

 

[Pink Panther]

In my opinion, CA is not headed towards a "come to Jesus" moment, a breakdown, or whatever you care to term it as. She is not in denial. She is covering up everything as much as she can and for as long as she can in order to save the person who killed her grandchild. After she takes the stand at the trial, I want to believe they will be arresting her instead of taking her off to some insane asylum for everything she has done to derail the investigation including lying on the stand in the first bond hearing (which I expect more lies to come out during trial for Perjury charges), imo.

This is precisely the reason that I think they haven't charged either GA or CA yet. As soon as they charge them, they can plead the 5th. Better to have them talking and talking and talking...

Lol.

 

[SuziQ]

In my opinion, CA is not headed towards a "come to Jesus" moment, a breakdown, or whatever you care to term it as. She is not in denial. She is covering up everything as much as she can and for as long as she can in order to save the person who killed her grandchild. After she takes the stand at the trial, I want to believe they will be arresting her instead of taking her off to some insane asylum for everything she has done to derail the investigation including lying on the stand in the first bond hearing (which I expect more lies to come out during trial for Perjury charges), imo.

ITA. IMO, Cindy has a personality disorder, not a mental illness. Also IMO, if Cindy suffers a breakdown it won't be because she's seen the light. It will be because she can't get what she demands and can't control the outcome of this case. It won't have anything to do with Caylee at all.