New Video Interviews released from SA's office 11/21 #2

[karenmamo]

I'm a bit puzzled over Cindy going for counseling. It just does not seem like something she would voluntarily do. First off, she'd have to recognize there was a problem and I don't think she's capable of that. So I have to wonder if counseling was forced on her. For instance, like her employer demanded it.

ETA: I dealt with employees with similar personalities as CA. They go to counseling kicking and screaming.

According to Cindy's brother Rick, Cindy went to talk to someone about her fear of leaving Caylee with KC.
The counselor is the one who suggested she go for custody.

 

[Elley Mae]

I'm new to this thread, and posting, but I have a question - apologies to all you WS'ers who have been living this case for 22 weeks! Does anyone know why the grandparents who saw Caylee every day didn't figure out she was gone for a month? I mean - how is it possible that they didn't hire a private eye or just follow KC themselves to try and find this little girl much much earlier? Thanks for any insight ...

I agree with you as most of us do, it is yet to be understood by me at least. For some reason Casey was able to "talk' or "text" Cindy and keep her satisfied, Casey was suppose to be out of town with Caylee for the week of thye 16th thru the 23rd June so that was easy enough for her. after that it was one excuse after another, and Cindy fell for it. Welcome to WS elley

 

[marla]

I agree with you as most of us do, it is yet to be understood by me at least. For some reason Casey was able to "talk' or "text" Cindy and keep her satisfied, Casey was suppose to be out of town with Caylee for the week of thye 16th thru the 23rd June so that was easy enough for her. after that it was one excuse after another, and Cindy fell for it. Welcome to WS elley

I believe the same thing took place, elley ..
Casey placiated Cindy ..

If not for the car being towed ..
Who knows?
We probably never would have heard of this family ..

 

[countzero]

According to Cindy's brother Rick, Cindy went to talk to someone about her fear of leaving Caylee with KC.
The counselor is the one who suggested she go for custody.

Wow, I meant to comment on this a while ago, but didn't.

Obviously, CA spins another story or she heard only what she wanted if in fact is did see a counselor about KC.

The counselor should know that legally CA has no grounds to file for custody simply because CA has issues with KC.

IF CA told the counselor enough of truth or half-truths or CA's versions of truths that the counselor felt there was enough of a story to suggest to CA to file for custody, the counselor would have immediately contacted CPS regarding the allegations CA told so Caylee would be protected immediately. Not weeks during the wait for a court appearance to file for custody.

This is but another one of CA's spins on the truth to gain sympathy.

 

[wings]

There were a few times the FBI agent asked her if she asked KC that question such as Did you tell AH that GA and CA were getting a divorce and that she could move in their house, and CA said she didn't ask her. How could she not ask her such obvious questions...is there a nanny...did you have a job...did you tell AH we were divorcing...Is CA that clueless?

Every time I read about the infamous pendng CA v. GA divorce, I remember Simon B saying in his interview IIRC that GA made the comment that they would get divorced over this for sure or something to that nature. Also Cindy brought up herself that GA was not the man of the house since he was not living there when she was getting on to Casey and Jesse for being in Casey's room with Caylee. Even still IIRC didn't they even draw up papers at one time?

 

[Elley Mae]

Wow, I meant to comment on this a while ago, but didn't.

Obviously, CA spins another story or she heard only what she wanted if in fact is did see a counselor about KC.

The counselor should know that legally CA has no grounds to file for custody simply because CA has issues with KC.

IF CA told the counselor enough of truth or half-truths or CA's versions of truths that the counselor felt there was enough of a story to suggest to CA to file for custody, the counselor would have immediately contacted CPS regarding the allegations CA told so Caylee would be protected immediately. Not weeks during the wait for a court appearance to file for custody.

This is but another one of CA's spins on the truth to gain sympathy.

It's not my fault she did any thing wrong. LOL I was the best Mother in the world. And she wants to be just like me, that's how great I am. I played music for my (in vitro)? and so did she, we are the perfect examples of how to raise a child. It's all her new friends fault. She's graduated HS and works for Color vision, and she goes to bed every night at 9:00. She's having a hard time, she lost a lot of money in the stock market. And I want to find out why Amy didn't help in this search. and, and, and, and. OK I need some water.

 

[Janis396]

Every time I read about the infamous pendng CA v. GA divorce, I remember Simon B saying in his interview IIRC that GA made the comment that they would get divorced over this for sure or something to that nature. Also Cindy brought up herself that GA was not the man of the house since he was not living there when she was getting on to Casey and Jesse for being in Casey's room with Caylee. Even still IIRC didn't they even draw up papers at one time?

I took his comment to mean that he knew he and Cindy would disagree ONCE AGAIN about Casey's level of responsibility over what was going on with the car. George was angry at Casey basically abandoning her car and costing them over $400, but he already knew Cindy would jump to Casey's defense and she would suffer no real consequences. So he was telling Simon B that he knew a big fight was on it's way between he and Cindy over how to deal with Casey about the car. IMO.

 

[bobodedoo]

I am thoroughly disgusted after listening to CA ... in the first part of the interview, she out and out denies that KC has not been formally charged, and continues to deny it until the FBI guy says, no, she has been charged with crimes. Sounds a bit familiar with the deny, deny, deny until someone points out the truth. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it?

I can't stand this.....

 

[bobodedoo]

Cindy also via body language in the second tape, completely ignores and disagrees with the FBI guy's stmt where he addresses the remark by Cindy that KC wanted to talk to the FBI so that someone will actually listen to what she is saying. The FBI guy goes on to say that he would want KC to tell him what is it that she is going to tell him that is different than the BS she blew out at the OCSO at Universal, etc.

Still thoroughly disgusted ... please someone tell me it gets better ... that she doesn't ignore the stuff she doesn't want to hear and act like she's the only one that can run the investigation the best and that LEOs have nuttin' on her? Please, I'm begging you.....

 

[rozey]

I haven't listened to all of her interview yet, so please bear with me here ~ but did CA say she saw the car there at Amscot? If so, what was her reaction, like did she call Casey about it?

SRY Panthera I didn't see your post. No CA did not see the car. In the tapes she said that she passes by Amscot everyday on her way to work. Some of us here had been thinking that could have been the reason KC left the car there. It just seems odd that she would pick an area she knows her mother frequents.

 

[rozey]

I personally think the car was left the night of the 27th not the 26th, and my point to stella5 was that I don't think that Casey wanted Cindy to see the car. She had full intentions of getting the car but it didn't work.

The lady from Amscot said she saw it the morning of the 27th when she arrived at work.

 

[rozey]

Ms. Sanchez said she saw the car at 7am on the 27th. She might have been wrong though, I guess, since it doesn't make much sense for it to be there that early and yet Casey doesn't call TL for a pick up until after 11am ~ with a bag of groceries in hand. :waitasec:

Unless that is the day she borrowed mom's car????? No that wouldn't work either. GA said she brought it back late afternoon or early evening, CRS.

 

[bobodedoo]

Cindy claims KC says to her to "think about our conversations, about where I've been, who I've been with, what I've been doing" and she'll then be able to figure it out. What a way to torture your family....

 

[Pondering Mind]

It's not my fault she did any thing wrong. LOL I was the best Mother in the world. And she wants to be just like me, that's how great I am. I played music for my (in vitro)? and so did she, we are the perfect examples of how to raise a child. It's all her new friends fault. She's graduated HS and works for Color vision, and she goes to bed every night at 9:00. She's having a hard time, she lost a lot of money in the stock market. And I want to find out why Amy didn't help in this search. and, and, and, and. OK I need some water.

And may I add that "we" bathe Caylee twice a day, morning and night and in between if she has been playing outside. Ricardo may be Zanny and Amy may be Z's roomate/sister because she totaled her car and has blond hair or the other way around and it must be true because Casey is TRYING to give her clues. Ricardo was sweating and quiet when he was at their house and she wasn't the only one who noticed it.....on and on...it can't be Casey because she would do anything to protect her child, that's just the way she is, everyone knows her as Mom because she is always concerned about others and she (Cindy) is the same way at work..whew.....How can a woman with no sleep talk SO MUCH and spin so many tales without hardly taking a breath. I can't stand listening to it and I can't stop listening to it! Now I think I'm crazy as well.

 

[maur33]

Cindy claims KC says to her to "think about our conversations, about where I've been, who I've been with, what I've been doing" and she'll then be able to figure it out. What a way to torture your family....

Truly evil that one, she will never tell cindy what she did with caylee..never.

No matter how hard cindy tries to fit the lie's casey told her, (which are actually the truth's of others lives all woven together) together they just won't fit.

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

Beautifully said. I have two sons, (now adults) matter of fact my youngest son (22) and I attend the same college, (lol - different majors/classes and he's the one who actually encouraged me to attend there) and I frequently have students come up to me and ask if he is my son and tell me how highly they think of him. (guys & gals alike) They tell me that I did a good job raising him (and my other son as well for those that know him also) and it still amazes me that they (young adults) always want to know "how I did it?" Although, I admit it, I am extremely proud of both of my sons, I don't gloat in it and I don't take all of the credit for it either. My first response is "I have really been blessed" and I tell these kids (lol - young adults) that there are many parents who love thier kids more then life itself and they do a great job parenting but as kids get older they still ultimately must make thier own choices such as drugs, drinking, sex, etc... and most kids will try new things at one time or another but some, what I call, never make it back. I was raised in a very rigid home, there were only two options, perfect or complete failure. Once a child is cast into a mold its hard to step out of that mold therefore I always told my kids that there is always a way back, that making a mistake isn't the end of the road and theres always an exit where you can turn around and get back on and head back in the right direction. What each of my sons have achieved personally in thier lives is "thier achievement", its not mine. I hear so many parents use the term "you owe me" with their kids simply because they parented a child, who didn't ask to come into this world, for the 18 years that they are legally responsible to do so, how can that be right? Anyhow, my point is when we make our kids "trophy kids", "reflections of ourselves" or treat them like objects by using them as bragging points to compete against other family member's or friend's for mother or father of the year award, we don't give them a way back. We give them a road that only goes in one direction, it has no exits, no off-ramps and ultimately leads them right over a cliff.

Beautiful post nomoresorrow:blowkiss:. I also have 2 sons .

 

[Pink Panther]

Cindy claims KC says to her to "think about our conversations, about where I've been, who I've been with, what I've been doing" and she'll then be able to figure it out. What a way to torture your family....

I agree. Its obviously not something she is saying to help them find Caylee but something to ensure that they are tormented! Awful.

The way I read that statement is that she is basically telling her mother that once this information comes out (where she's been , what she's been doing etc...) it should be obvious that she killed her.

MOO

 

[Pink Panther]

I have to admit that when she said that Riccardo was quiet and sweating and that she thought that was odd, I chuckled. Geez...The guy must have realized what a WACKO family they were and was probably wishing that he had never agreed to come to the house in the first place. Can you imagine!

MOO

 

[100%Agave]

Cindy claims KC says to her to "think about our conversations, about where I've been, who I've been with, what I've been doing" and she'll then be able to figure it out. What a way to torture your family....

The problem is that Cindy is trying to look at it from the angle that KC is innocent but if she would turn it around and look at it from the angle that KC is guilty she would be able to figure it out.

All their conversations, where she was, who she was with, and what she was doing if looked at that way tells a story of a mom, who didn't really want to be a mom to begin with, she found a new group of friends, probably because she had already burned all the others by stealing from them and lying to them. Non of her new friends had kids but worked and went to school. They were going to be somebody, she was not. The story is simple, she wanted out from under CA's confining hands and the everyday stress and work required to have a child, she wanted to be a big shot without a snot nosed brat.

The story is there if CA would open her eyes and read it and that is what KC was trying to tell her.

IMO of course.

 

[bobodedoo]

The problem is that Cindy is trying to look at it from the angle that KC is innocent but if she would turn it around and look at it from the angle that KC is guilty she would be able to figure it out.

All their conversations, where she was, who she was with, and what she was doing if looked at that way tells a story of a mom, who didn't really want to be a mom to begin with, she found a new group of friends, probably because she had already burned all the others by stealing from them and lying to them. Non of her new friends had kids but worked and went to school. They were going to be somebody, she was not. The story is simple, she wanted out from under CA's confining hands and the everyday stress and work required to have a child, she wanted to be a big shot without a snot nosed brat.

The story is there if CA would open her eyes and read it and that is what KC was trying to tell her.

IMO of course.

You've got fantastic skill for deducing this ... never even thought about it that way. I figured she was merely telling Cindy that just to make her go round-n-round-n-round.:clap: